Joevin Jones Thread

[palos]

You want Pep get run outta town.

I eh sayin he will get de gig.  I say he on de radar.  Unlikely to get a move in January in part because he is an unknown....but from reports I heard...he has been noticed.

[Jumbie]

fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui

[palos]

fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui

Think bout it.

which one is a scenario where yuh most likely to BUN?

When is -5 degrees celcius and running keeps you warm?

Or when is 35 degrees celcius and humidity makes it feel like 40?

[Jumbie]

P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose

[palos]

P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose

He better.  If he...or anyone for that matter...cyah get up for a final.....then he gone tru before he even start 

[Peong]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

[chelsealife]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

[palos]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

DJW droolin all over heself in anticipation

EXCEPT

Transfers which involve a non-MLS club work the same way european transfers do, however, whenever you sell a player to a non-MLS club you will have to pay 33% of the transfer value as a commission to the MLS, or just 25% if the player had Home-Grown status;

So leh we say JJ get sell for US$1M (just using a nice easy figure...not what an actual transfer fee is likely to be)

MLS will get US330K

Seattle will get US$670K

UNLESS

JJ contract is such where no matter where he goes, at what stage of his career, his home club in T&T gets a cut of the transfer fee.

Now remember......the transfer fee is between the clubs

Then there are personal terms (salary, signing bonus, loyalty bonus, appearance bonus, incentives, sponsorship deals etc) that are all usually negotiated by an agent.  Of course the agent will get a cut as well.

So home teams are WAAAAAYYYYY down the list of priorities, if they on the list at all.

[Peong]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

[asylumseeker]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.

[congo]

No "top 6" team in a major european league is even considering a 25+ year old mls player.

[Controversial]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

I have heard German clubs are interested, not sure about the others, but peong is not talking shit

[Controversial]

Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.

 

[Controversial]

Pep has serious problems at wing back and rumor is JJ on the radar

Interesting, I knew Bayern was mentioned in the mix with other bundesliga clubs but man city.. hmmm I like the psg rumour, ala dinho.. he will suit Barca well, in fact he will be one of the best wingers in the world if he wants it bad enough and works for it...

[Controversial]

You want Pep get run outta town.

Bull, unknowns can make him look like a genius if it pans out.. pep has belly, not like people locally who can't scout the best player even if they are under their nose..

[congo]

He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

[Controversial]

He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

That's a bargain for JJ, his age doesn't mean anything... he has 5-7 years of top flight football...more than enough to gamble on.. the work permit won't be a complication ... he could swing it in Germany and France...

[congo]

Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

[Controversial]

Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

We agree to disagree my friend... what is impossible with man is possible to God

[trini_stallion]

Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...

[asylumseeker]

He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

I take your broader point, but it happens that players valued even less than that (per transfermarkt data) have been on the radar of BIG clubs.

P.S. Don't ignore the distinction between valuation and what is paid ultimately.

[Thomo]

It was Udinese. We saw some footage of him in training where he was gazing and they sent him home within a few days as they weren't impressed with what the saw.

Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...

[asylumseeker]

Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

Be careful about blanket statements. Will name just one: Matt Miazga.

If you were to have looked at Miazga's transfermarkt valuation in September/October 2015, it would have been 100,000. Have a look now.

Granted, some extenuating factors however existed in his case, but they bore no relationship to valuation/cost.

[Thomo]

This just doesn't sound plausible. No quotes just a regular socawarriors.net poster and a 26 year old Joevin's current form. MLS is at best mid-Champlionship and League 1 level that European clubs and sadly, even club supporters turn their noses up from the time you mention MLS. The only reason why I watch it sometimes is to see our local players, I can't get one Brit to feast their eyes on it. Over the years their have been a few that have been bought to the European scene but it's rare that they could hack it and they always ever have to return. Hope it works out for the young man but I just can't buy it without any proof. Premiership is about five notches up from MLS

[asylumseeker]

 Palos wreaking havoc again.   

[Peong]

I feel he could play for a decent Portuguese or Dutch team easily. They appreciate technical players like him. I eh know what the work permit situation would be now.

[elan]

Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

[Controversial]

Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?

[elan]

Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?

Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒

[Controversial]

Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?

Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒

Difference is I heard it from others, you positioned it like you hear it directly from him... two different things my friend..