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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #180 on: December 12, 2016, 01:46:01 PM »
You want Pep get run outta town.

I eh sayin he will get de gig.  I say he on de radar.  Unlikely to get a move in January in part because he is an unknown....but from reports I heard...he has been noticed.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 01:59:44 PM by palos »
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #181 on: December 12, 2016, 01:54:45 PM »
fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #182 on: December 12, 2016, 02:02:02 PM »
fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui

Think bout it.

which one is a scenario where yuh most likely to BUN?

When is -5 degrees celcius and running keeps you warm?

Or when is 35 degrees celcius and humidity makes it feel like 40?
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #183 on: December 12, 2016, 03:20:47 PM »
P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #184 on: December 12, 2016, 03:41:12 PM »
P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose

He better.  If he...or anyone for that matter...cyah get up for a final.....then he gone tru before he even start  ;)
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #185 on: December 12, 2016, 05:53:17 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #186 on: December 12, 2016, 07:00:11 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #187 on: December 12, 2016, 07:41:52 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

DJW droolin all over heself in anticipation

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Transfers which involve a non-MLS club work the same way european transfers do, however, whenever you sell a player to a non-MLS club you will have to pay 33% of the transfer value as a commission to the MLS, or just 25% if the player had Home-Grown status;

So leh we say JJ get sell for US$1M (just using a nice easy figure...not what an actual transfer fee is likely to be)

MLS will get US330K

Seattle will get US$670K

UNLESS

JJ contract is such where no matter where he goes, at what stage of his career, his home club in T&T gets a cut of the transfer fee.

Now remember......the transfer fee is between the clubs

Then there are personal terms (salary, signing bonus, loyalty bonus, appearance bonus, incentives, sponsorship deals etc) that are all usually negotiated by an agent.  Of course the agent will get a cut as well.

So home teams are WAAAAAYYYYY down the list of priorities, if they on the list at all.
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #188 on: December 12, 2016, 09:20:39 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #189 on: December 12, 2016, 09:27:18 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #190 on: December 12, 2016, 09:53:55 PM »
No "top 6" team in a major european league is even considering a 25+ year old mls player. :bs: :bs:

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #191 on: December 12, 2016, 10:01:45 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.


I have heard German clubs are interested, not sure about the others, but peong is not talking shit

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #192 on: December 12, 2016, 10:02:29 PM »
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #193 on: December 12, 2016, 10:07:21 PM »

Pep has serious problems at wing back and rumor is JJ on the radar

Interesting, I knew Bayern was mentioned in the mix with other bundesliga clubs but man city.. hmmm I like the psg rumour, ala dinho.. he will suit Barca well, in fact he will be one of the best wingers in the world if he wants it bad enough and works for it...


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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #194 on: December 12, 2016, 10:08:50 PM »
You want Pep get run outta town.

Bull, unknowns can make him look like a genius if it pans out.. pep has belly, not like people locally who can't scout the best player even if they are under their nose..

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #195 on: December 12, 2016, 10:32:17 PM »
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #196 on: December 12, 2016, 10:58:17 PM »
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

That's a bargain for JJ, his age doesn't mean anything... he has 5-7 years of top flight football...more than enough to gamble on.. the work permit won't be a complication ... he could swing it in Germany and France...

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #197 on: December 12, 2016, 11:13:10 PM »
Man City just paid 47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #198 on: December 12, 2016, 11:19:18 PM »
Man City just paid 47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #199 on: December 13, 2016, 06:40:51 AM »
Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #200 on: December 13, 2016, 07:24:52 AM »
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

I take your broader point, but it happens that players valued even less than that (per transfermarkt data) have been on the radar of BIG clubs.

P.S. Don't ignore the distinction between valuation and what is paid ultimately.
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #201 on: December 13, 2016, 07:35:01 AM »
It was Udinese. We saw some footage of him in training where he was gazing and they sent him home within a few days as they weren't impressed with what the saw.
Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #202 on: December 13, 2016, 07:35:13 AM »
Man City just paid 47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

Be careful about blanket statements. Will name just one: Matt Miazga.

If you were to have looked at Miazga's transfermarkt valuation in September/October 2015, it would have been 100,000. Have a look now.

Granted, some extenuating factors however existed in his case, but they bore no relationship to valuation/cost.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #203 on: December 13, 2016, 07:52:53 AM »
This just doesn't sound plausible. No quotes just a regular socawarriors.net poster and a 26 year old Joevin's current form. MLS is at best mid-Champlionship and League 1 level that European clubs and sadly, even club supporters turn their noses up from the time you mention MLS. The only reason why I watch it sometimes is to see our local players, I can't get one Brit to feast their eyes on it. Over the years their have been a few that have been bought to the European scene but it's rare that they could hack it and they always ever have to return. Hope it works out for the young man but I just can't buy it without any proof. Premiership is about five notches up from MLS

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #204 on: December 13, 2016, 07:57:01 AM »
 Palos wreaking havoc again.  :salute:  :)

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #205 on: December 13, 2016, 09:03:37 AM »
I feel he could play for a decent Portuguese or Dutch team easily. They appreciate technical players like him. I eh know what the work permit situation would be now.

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #206 on: December 13, 2016, 07:35:55 PM »
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.
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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #207 on: December 13, 2016, 07:53:19 PM »
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #208 on: December 13, 2016, 08:05:40 PM »
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?
Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒

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Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
« Reply #209 on: December 13, 2016, 08:19:51 PM »
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?
Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒



Difference is I heard it from others, you positioned it like you hear it directly from him... two different things my friend..

 

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