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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2013, 07:40:22 AM »
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 09:09:21 AM »
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2013, 09:17:58 AM »
I feeling really good about this trial and see no reason for this youth not to make it...on a related note, I see that the weather in Udinese will be in the 50s and up (Fareniheit) for the next week, so give thanks for that!!!
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2013, 09:37:28 AM »
Hope pittance for dem is big money for Jones

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2013, 09:40:21 AM »
Youth Players in the UK could earn $10,000 (1000) a week in the top division. Hell in the Championship you can at least look forward to 500 a week. I imagine Serie A offers similarly lucrative money, especially for rotation/1st team players

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2013, 10:01:21 AM »
Yes, but what one could get, and what one is offered, because the individual is desperate to get their foot in the door, is sometimes not close to what is fair.
Eg he could get 1000/wk, but they offer 200, take it or go back home..then your agent have to rationalize in yuh head that it's ok if yuh making 1/5 everybody else salary, yuh still out playing them, and making more than if yuh was home, just hold on till next year, so yuh going thru the year as a foreigner, language barrier, no friends, some heckling & insults, no immediate friends,no Doubles, training and playing harder and better than everyone else, yet might make less...sometimes it might be difficult to concentrate...

So I hope if he manages a decent showing, the club treats him with the respect he deserves, and not use/abuse his talent.

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2013, 11:05:03 AM »
That article calling him a left back. Is that the position they looking at him for and is that the position he shines in?

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2013, 12:15:25 PM »
Yes, but what one could get, and what one is offered, because the individual is desperate to get their foot in the door, is sometimes not close to what is fair.
Eg he could get 1000/wk, but they offer 200, take it or go back home..then your agent have to rationalize in yuh head that it's ok if yuh making 1/5 everybody else salary, yuh still out playing them, and making more than if yuh was home, just hold on till next year, so yuh going thru the year as a foreigner, language barrier, no friends, some heckling & insults, no immediate friends,no Doubles, training and playing harder and better than everyone else, yet might make less...sometimes it might be difficult to concentrate...

So I hope if he manages a decent showing, the club treats him with the respect he deserves, and not use/abuse his talent.

The thing is, 1k a week IS the low-end - besides PFA's take a very dim view of contracts set that low. Even at 200 a week he'd be earning $8000 a month, which I'm told is quite respectable in Trini.

I'm not worried about the wage - I'm worried about the rest you're talking about. Italy has a terrible record for racism, although being so far north might mean conditions are a bit better for him. Besides he'll have contact with Stefano Monti and his contacts in Italy which should help give him some protection in general.

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2013, 12:28:25 PM »
That article calling him a left back. Is that the position they looking at him for and is that the position he shines in?

I eh see no reason why he cyar play in dat position, like an Ashley Cole, Leighton Baines, Patrice Evra, Jordi Alba, Marcelo etc. Is just that when he has played there for T&T, he has been reluctant to get forward. I know for a fact that Hart does encourage him to get forward, but so far it eh relly work out. It would also help if he put on some muscle.
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2013, 12:34:38 PM »
What is the gist of the article?
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2013, 02:01:30 PM »
Joevin is a left back. But he can play a midfield. I think he is a better left back than mid.

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2013, 06:52:56 PM »
the pittance in the translation doesnt refer to salary. rationed for a pittance means that if they do want him they wud buy him for a real small fee.... udinese has an ability to purchase talent for peanuts and sell for large sums of money..

udinese play a 352/4231 so they would be looking at joevin primarily for that left wingback/left back role curently occupied by gabriel silva, also 22..silva is the starting left wingback/left back so far this season douglas santos is the sub..other than that the leftback options are a couple of centrebacks who can play there at left back...anyway, i pray his lungs are up to it because that position requires alot of running...also with guidolin's style....udinese team presses for the ball in all areas of the field...their players are very industrious and technically and tactically sound...versatility is a plus too...they dont have the largest squads so sometimes you may have to play out of position...

udinese's president owns Granada in spain and Watford in england as well so if the presi likes him he may see if he can farm him out to one of those sides as a first resort or to another serie a team or at worst a serie b team...or just loan him to any team..
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2013, 09:48:29 PM »
This is yuh shot youthman, go over dey HUNGRY and give 200%.  These opportunities doh come everyday, make de absolute best of it. :beermug: :beermug:
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2013, 03:34:43 AM »
the pittance in the translation doesnt refer to salary. rationed for a pittance means that if they do want him they wud buy him for a real small fee.... udinese has an ability to purchase talent for peanuts and sell for large sums of money..

udinese play a 352/4231 so they would be looking at joevin primarily for that left wingback/left back role curently occupied by gabriel silva, also 22..silva is the starting left wingback/left back so far this season douglas santos is the sub..other than that the leftback options are a couple of centrebacks who can play there at left back...anyway, i pray his lungs are up to it because that position requires alot of running...also with guidolin's style....udinese team presses for the ball in all areas of the field...their players are very industrious and technically and tactically sound...versatility is a plus too...they dont have the largest squads so sometimes you may have to play out of position...

udinese's president owns Granada in spain and Watford in england as well so if the presi likes him he may see if he can farm him out to one of those sides as a first resort or to another serie a team or at worst a serie b team...or just loan him to any team..

Good points - I would worry for him competing, but it would be awesome if he got some game time in England at Watford - Udinese already treat Watford as a B-team lol. a "small fee" in the big leagues for a player is still in the hundreds of thousands, although I don't think W Connection will get that.

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2013, 07:48:36 AM »
he looks quite angry/jet lagged :p

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2013, 02:50:40 PM »
im a lil nervous, but positive.

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2013, 03:07:43 PM »
im a lil nervous, but positive.

So yuh could imagine how he feeling.  :nailbiting:
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2013, 03:27:18 PM »
he looks quite angry/jet lagged :p
nah man..he just realize no Boom Champions, Vibe 105, or even WACK fm....oh oh   :devil:

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2013, 04:56:41 PM »
They're online - me and the missus used to listen to them from time to time, especially for Jayson Williams

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2013, 06:41:52 PM »
The man look like he settle in already...especially with he coach man purse

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2013, 06:59:07 PM »
The man look like he settle in already...especially with he coach man purse


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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2013, 08:52:57 AM »
doin up a project here so turned on udinese tv around when training sessions usually is...i figure this was after training because the coach is conducting a press conference now

anyway joevin was the last player to exit...knew it was him because he jus stood there not knowing where to go and looking around till someone came to him...u can see from his demeanor he is the new kid on the block...the others had a confident bounce in their step whereas he looked like shuffling his feet and tense..this is to be expected and im not worried...soon hopefully pretty soon he will gain confidence and be able to express himself on the field the way he wants to...nerves is a bitch really..


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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2013, 08:56:14 AM »
honestly i think d fella didnt understand one shit jones was saying so he maybe directed him incorrectly as jones turned around and walked back in through the doors confused

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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2013, 09:29:20 AM »
de man looking like a deer in the headlights yes...

Come Joevin, put on dat trini swagger... yuh badder than all of dem...
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2013, 10:03:58 AM »
Joevin isn't 16 or 17 eh.  He's 22.  Considered a man.

Hopefully all will go well for the young man.
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2013, 02:41:56 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2013, 03:04:34 PM »
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Re: Joevin Jones set for Italy trial with Udinese
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2013, 04:11:33 PM »
Yeah the little we saw Mr central defender playing that long ball, and when he not doing that he starting the knock on the right side right thru.

Hopefully other scrimmages look better than the few minutes we saw on this one :)

Also do we have those free=kick dummies locally?
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