2014 Caribbean Cup Thread

[palos]

palos,               I meant his club football in England.

Respeck breds 

[Bakes]

If you actually follow what the fans are saying, he's consistently putting in Man of the Match performances. It weird to see nobody on a message board criticizing him at all, for a man who always split opinion. Goal streak done, but he still setting them up and apparently he like a madman all over the pitch. He either find back his passion or his level, but he ain't whimper out this season yet at all.

So fast yuh tune change?  Five weeks ago I said Kenwyne seemed to find his level and it engender all kinda long talk and condemnation from you.

Doh let facts stand in the way of healthy bias. One day he'll sign your flag.

Let's leave out his success at Stoke. Or his performances in Europe. Let's ignore his scoring rate being the best at the club even when he was only getting pigeon sweats.

Let's only focus on a bad last season at Stoke and pretend that's his whole career.

Meanwhile, even by your own estimation, 'mediocrity' would suggest that he's a middling, average Prem player. So yeah.

Is either yuh biased against him now... or was talking shit fuh de sake of talking shit.

[Dinner Mints]

If you actually follow what the fans are saying, he's consistently putting in Man of the Match performances. It weird to see nobody on a message board criticizing him at all, for a man who always split opinion. Goal streak done, but he still setting them up and apparently he like a madman all over the pitch. He either find back his passion or his level, but he ain't whimper out this season yet at all.

So fast yuh tune change?  Five weeks ago I said Kenwyne seemed to find his level and it engender all kinda long talk and condemnation from you.

Doh let facts stand in the way of healthy bias. One day he'll sign your flag.

Let's leave out his success at Stoke. Or his performances in Europe. Let's ignore his scoring rate being the best at the club even when he was only getting pigeon sweats.

Let's only focus on a bad last season at Stoke and pretend that's his whole career.

Meanwhile, even by your own estimation, 'mediocrity' would suggest that he's a middling, average Prem player. So yeah.

Is either yuh biased against him now... or was talking shit fuh de sake of talking shit.

If you ever determine what a non-declarative sentence is, it might help you find a way out of your current confusion.

[Bakes]

If you ever determine what a non-declarative sentence is, it might help you find a way out of your current confusion.

I think we both know that yuh wasting yuh time questioning my understanding.  Your obfuscation and deflection further confirms my assessment of your shifting stance.

[Dinner Mints]

If you ever determine what a non-declarative sentence is, it might help you find a way out of your current confusion.

I think we both know that yuh wasting yuh time questioning my understanding.  Your obfuscation and deflection further confirms my assessment of your shifting stance.

My 'stance' in all things is being even-handed, free of preconception and without agenda. That means I try to give a fair assessment instead of defending some entrenched position or trying to win some talk. If part of the picture is being ignored, if arguments are presented without context, if comments come from a consistent history of bias, I'll try to round them out as best I can. This might seem like 'obfuscation' to you, but that's likely your combative nature at work. I'm discussing things on a discussion board, not competing in the ole talk lympics.

[Controversial]

If you ever determine what a non-declarative sentence is, it might help you find a way out of your current confusion.

I think we both know that yuh wasting yuh time questioning my understanding.  Your obfuscation and deflection further confirms my assessment of your shifting stance.

My 'stance' in all things is being even-handed, free of preconception and without agenda. That means I try to give a fair assessment instead of defending some entrenched position or trying to win some talk. If part of the picture is being ignored, if arguments are presented without context, if comments come from a consistent history of bias, I'll try to round them out as best I can. This might seem like 'obfuscation' to you, but that's likely your combative nature at work. I'm discussing things on a discussion board, not competing in the ole talk lympics.

woodford square online???

[Bakes]

My 'stance' in all things is being even-handed, free of preconception and without agenda. That means I try to give a fair assessment instead of defending some entrenched position or trying to win some talk. If part of the picture is being ignored, if arguments are presented without context, if comments come from a consistent history of bias, I'll try to round them out as best I can. This might seem like 'obfuscation' to you, but that's likely your combative nature at work. I'm discussing things on a discussion board, not competing in the ole talk lympics.

Risible, self-serving and laughably inaccurate, given how readily you resorted to ad hominems in resort to the simple comment that Kenwyne seemed to have found "his level."  The "history of bias" you claim conveniently ignores my praise for him and his captaincy in leading the effort in the Gold Cup last summer.  Facts are inconvenient things sometimes and the fact is that KJ has shown greater consistency on the Championship level rather than the Premiership... and even that seems a stretch now.  The obfuscation is your attempt to posit some "confusion" on my part, rather than exhibit some candor and admit that your suggestion (that he may have "found his level") is consistent with my own.  There is actually nothing at all "combative" about my nature, not at home, not at work, not liming... and not "discussing things on a discussion board."  Pointing out double-speak and hypocrisy isn't 'combat', and maybe if you weren't so beholden to your ego you'd recognize that.

[CDR]

Are there going to be any tv or internet streams for this?

[maxg]

  this is so much better, when KJ and me, have to take out we dictionary and learn some new words, and sentence structure an ting.. I personally like it .. the other words used in the past was kinda old 

[CDR]

info on antigua team is here
https://www.facebook.com/BennaBoysFanClub

[Banter Banton]

I wonder if the fans will get to see the Caribbean Cup on TV....

The final tournament is in Jamaica..home of Sportsmax who Digicel just purchased. Should be easy right?

Secondly..ESPN Caribbean have 2 channels (75 and 76) on FLOW... Shaka Hislop works with them. Tallman, Flex can you guys email him and raise the question? Surely CFU would allow either ESPN or that joke of a channel Sportsmax to broadcast the region's premier Football Tournament.

Oh so you would think...it is CFU afterall.

[Sam]

I hear Hart call up Panday?

Allyuh hear so too?

By de time de squad name we go get 1 session and then go straight into de first game.

Ent this is a FIFA dated tournament?

[Sando]

7 days till our first 2014 Caribbean Cup game and team is not in training or haven't been named.

Hope the TTFA can get their acts together.

They need the help guys, lets hope the MOS helps them out.

Good luck to T&T football, its not looking to good, but I wish them all the best.

[frico]

Ah cyah wait!!!

[Tallman]

After earlier reports indicated that they were called up for national team duty, it now emerges that Shahdon Winchester and Aubrey David will not participate in the upcoming Caribbean Cup. Hopefully an explanation is forthcoming.
http://online.osterbottenstidning.fi/Artikel/Visa/40421

[Tiresais]

After earlier reports indicated that they were called up for national team duty, it now emerges that Shahdon Winchester and Aubrey David will not participate in the upcoming Caribbean Cup. Hopefully an explanation is forthcoming.
http://online.osterbottenstidning.fi/Artikel/Visa/40421

Money no doubt.

[FF]

HART NAMES STRONG 20-MAN SQUAD FOR CARIBBEAN CUP SEMI-FINAL STAGE
TTFA Online


Trinidad and Tobago head coach Stephen Hart today announced his final 20-man squad to contest the semi-final round of the Caribbean Cup which kicks off next Wednesday versus Dominican Republic at the Ato Boldon Stadium from 8:15pm.

Hart will conduct his first training session with the squad on Saturday morning from from 9am at the Larry Gomes Stadium as the team heads into a live-in training camp.

His team is a formidable one with former national under 20 and W Connection defender Alvin Jones being the only relative newcomer while former National under 20 and Under 17 captain Leston Paul makes a return to the team.

Cardiff City forward Kenwyne Jones will captain the team which also includes US-based forward Trevin Caesar, Orlando City midfielder Kevin Molino, Slovakia-based winger Lester Peltier, US-based forward Cordell Cato of San Jose Earthquakes. Vietnam-based midfielder Hughtun Hector, Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland of Racing Genk, English-based duo Andre Boucaud and Justin Hoyte  Belgium-based defender Sheldon Bateau and Joevin Jones of Finnish club HJH Helsinki.

Vancouver Whitecaps defender Carlyle Mitchell and Daneil Cyrus along with fellow defender Yohance Marshall, US-based midfielder Kevan George and Central FC midfielder Ataulla Guerra have also been named in the team while the two goalkeepers are Jan Michael William and Marvin Phillips.

“This is the 20-man squad we’ve decided on and we’ll get things off with a light session on Saturday. It’s good for them to come together again as we haven’t seen each other since the games against Argentina and Iran in June,” Hart told TTFA Media.

“The players appear to be very enthusiastic and the mood is quite good which is what we want heading into the competition. It’s important for us to have the right approach which I am quite confident the team will have because these are all professional players who are very committed to doing what is right for the team and their country,” Hart added.


Back in the 2012 Caribbean Cup finals T&T had to depend on goals from the late Kevon Carter and Molino to overcome Dominican Republic 2-1, a win that secured T&T’s 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup place. 

The Dominican Republic outfit this year includes three players based in Spain attached the reserve teams of teams in the Spanish La Liga. Forward Mariano is attached to the Real Madrid B team.

Cayetano 'Tano' Bartolomé Bonnín Vásquez, a 24-year-old centerback plays for Villarreal CF B which is the reserve team of Villarreal CF and plays in Segunda División B. Forward Edipo Rodriguez plays for Club Deportivo Numancia de Soria B, S.A.D. a Spanish sports club from Soria. They also have a player in midfielder Samuel Zayas who plays for Swiss First Division club Grenchen. 

Their most notable player on the international stage is Jonathan Fana, formerly of W Connection who has 18 goals in 28 matches for his national team.

T&T will also face St Lucia on October 10th at 8:15pm and Antigua/Barbuda on Sunday October 12th at 6:15pm.  Wednesday’s opening match will feature St Lucia and Antigua/Barbuda from 6pm.  They are vying for a qualifying spot in the Caribbean Cup Finals which takes place in Montego Bay in November. Admission for the games is $100 (covered) and $60 (uncovered).


T&T 20-man squad


Jan Michael  Williams – Central FC
Marvin Phillips – Point Fortin Civic Centre
Yohance Marshall
Sheldon Bateau – KV Mechelen
Carlyle Mitchell – Vancouver Whitecaps
Daneil Cyrus – Ha Noi T&T
Alvin  Jones – W Connection
Justin Hoyte - Millwall
Joevin Jones – HJK Helsinki
Andre Boucaud – Dagenham & Redbridge
Khaleem  Hyland – Racing Genk
Kevan George – Columbus Crew
Ataulla Guerra – Central FC
Leston Paul – Central FC
Kenwyne  Jones – Cardiff City
Trevin Caesar – San Antonio Scorpions
Lester Peltier – Slovan Bratislava
Cordell Cato – San Jose Earthquakes
Hughtun Hector – Hanoi T&T
Kevin Molino – Orlando City

[banton]

Trinidad and Tobago head coach Stephen Hart today announced his final 20-man squad to contest the semi-final round of the Caribbean Cup which kicks off next Wednesday versus Dominican Republic at the Ato Boldon Stadium from 8:15pm.

Hart will conduct his first training session with the squad on Saturday morning from from 9am at the Larry Gomes Stadium as the team heads into a live-in training camp.

His team is a formidable one with former national under 20 and W Connection defender Alvin Jones being the only relative newcomer while former National under 20 and Under 17 captain Leston Paul makes a return to the team.

Cardiff City forward Kenwyne Jones will captain the team which also includes US-based forward Trevin Caesar, Orlando City midfielder Kevin Molino, Slovakia-based winger Lester Peltier, US-based forward Cordell Cato of San Jose Earthquakes. Vietnam-based midfielder Hughtun Hector, Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland of Racing Genk, English-based duo Andre Boucaud and Justin Hoyte  Belgium-based defender Sheldon Bateau and Joevin Jones of Finnish club HJH Helsinki.

Vancouver Whitecaps defender Carlyle Mitchell and Daneil Cyrus along with fellow defender Yohance Marshall, US-based midfielder Kevan George and Central FC midfielder Ataulla Guerra have also been named in the team while the two goalkeepers are Jan Michael William and Marvin Phillips.

“This is the 20-man squad we’ve decided on and we’ll get things off with a light session on Saturday. It’s good for them to come together again as we haven’t seen each other since the games against Argentina and Iran in June,” Hart told TTFA Media.

“The players appear to be very enthusiastic and the mood is quite good which is what we want heading into the competition. It’s important for us to have the right approach which I am quite confident the team will have because these are all professional players who are very committed to doing what is right for the team and their country,” Hart added.


Back in the 2012 Caribbean Cup finals T&T had to depend on goals from the late Kevon Carter and Molino to overcome Dominican Republic 2-1, a win that secured T&T’s 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup place. 

The Dominican Republic outfit this year includes three players based in Spain attached the reserve teams of teams in the Spanish La Liga. Forward Mariano is attached to the Real Madrid B team.

Cayetano 'Tano' Bartolomé Bonnín Vásquez, a 24-year-old centerback plays for Villarreal CF B which is the reserve team of Villarreal CF and plays in Segunda División B. Forward Edipo Rodriguez plays for Club Deportivo Numancia de Soria B, S.A.D. a Spanish sports club from Soria. They also have a player in midfielder Samuel Zayas who plays for Swiss First Division club Grenchen. 

Their most notable player on the international stage is Jonathan Fana, formerly of W Connection who has 18 goals in 28 matches for his national team.

T&T will also face St Lucia on October 10th at 8:15pm and Antigua/Barbuda on Sunday October 12th at 6:15pm.  Wednesday’s opening match will feature St Lucia and Antigua/Barbuda from 6pm.  They are vying for a qualifying spot in the Caribbean Cup Finals which takes place in Montego Bay in November. Admission for the games is $100 (covered) and $60 (uncovered).


T&T 20-man squad


Jan Michael  Williams – Central FC
Marvin Phillips – Point Fortin Civic Centre
Yohance Marshall
Sheldon Bateau – KV Mechelen
Carlyle Mitchell – Vancouver Whitecaps
Daneil Cyrus – Ha Noi T&T
Alvin  Jones – W Connection
Justin Hoyte - Millwall
Joevin Jones – HJK Helsinki
Andre Boucaud – Dagenham & Redbridge
Khaleem  Hyland – Racing Genk
Kevan George – Columbus Crew
Ataulla Guerra – Central FC
Leston Paul – Central FC
Kenwyne  Jones – Cardiff City
Trevin Caesar – San Antonio Scorpions
Lester Peltier – Slovan Bratislava
Cordell Cato – San Jose Earthquakes
Hughtun Hector – Hanoi T&T
Kevin Molino – Orlando Cit

[Banter Banton]

Trinidad and Tobago head coach Stephen Hart today announced his final 20-man squad to contest the semi-final round of the Caribbean Cup which kicks off next Wednesday versus Dominican Republic at the Ato Boldon Stadium from 8:15pm.

Hart will conduct his first training session with the squad on Saturday morning from from 9am at the Larry Gomes Stadium as the team heads into a live-in training camp.

His team is a formidable one with former national under 20 and W Connection defender Alvin Jones being the only relative newcomer while former National under 20 and Under 17 captain Leston Paul makes a return to the team.


Cardiff City forward Kenwyne Jones will captain the team which also includes US-based forward Trevin Caesar, Orlando City midfielder Kevin Molino, Slovakia-based winger Lester Peltier, US-based forward Cordell Cato of San Jose Earthquakes. Vietnam-based midfielder Hughtun Hector, Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland of Racing Genk, English-based duo Andre Boucaud and Justin Hoyte  Belgium-based defender Sheldon Bateau and Joevin Jones of Finnish club HJH Helsinki.

Vancouver Whitecaps defender Carlyle Mitchell and Daneil Cyrus along with fellow defender Yohance Marshall, US-based midfielder Kevan George and Central FC midfielder Ataulla Guerra have also been named in the team while the two goalkeepers are Jan Michael William and Marvin Phillips.

“This is the 20-man squad we’ve decided on and we’ll get things off with a light session on Saturday. It’s good for them to come together again as we haven’t seen each other since the games against Argentina and Iran in June,” Hart told TTFA Media.

“The players appear to be very enthusiastic and the mood is quite good which is what we want heading into the competition. It’s important for us to have the right approach which I am quite confident the team will have because these are all professional players who are very committed to doing what is right for the team and their country,” Hart added.


Back in the 2012 Caribbean Cup finals T&T had to depend on goals from the late Kevon Carter and Molino to overcome Dominican Republic 2-1, a win that secured T&T’s 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup place. 

The Dominican Republic outfit this year includes three players based in Spain attached the reserve teams of teams in the Spanish La Liga. Forward Mariano is attached to the Real Madrid B team.

Cayetano 'Tano' Bartolomé Bonnín Vásquez, a 24-year-old centerback plays for Villarreal CF B which is the reserve team of Villarreal CF and plays in Segunda División B. Forward Edipo Rodriguez plays for Club Deportivo Numancia de Soria B, S.A.D. a Spanish sports club from Soria. They also have a player in midfielder Samuel Zayas who plays for Swiss First Division club Grenchen. 

Their most notable player on the international stage is Jonathan Fana, formerly of W Connection who has 18 goals in 28 matches for his national team.

T&T will also face St Lucia on October 10th at 8:15pm and Antigua/Barbuda on Sunday October 12th at 6:15pm.  Wednesday’s opening match will feature St Lucia and Antigua/Barbuda from 6pm.  They are vying for a qualifying spot in the Caribbean Cup Finals which takes place in Montego Bay in November. Admission for the games is $100 (covered) and $60 (uncovered).


T&T 20-man squad


Jan Michael  Williams – Central FC
Marvin Phillips – Point Fortin Civic Centre
Yohance Marshall
Sheldon Bateau – KV Mechelen
Carlyle Mitchell – Vancouver Whitecaps
Daneil Cyrus – Ha Noi T&T
Alvin  Jones – W Connection
Justin Hoyte - Millwall
Joevin Jones – HJK Helsinki
Andre Boucaud – Dagenham & Redbridge
Khaleem  Hyland – Racing Genk
Kevan George – Columbus Crew
Ataulla Guerra – Central FC
Leston Paul – Central FC
Kenwyne  Jones – Cardiff City
Trevin Caesar – San Antonio Scorpions
Lester Peltier – Slovan Bratislava
Cordell Cato – San Jose Earthquakes
Hughtun Hector – Hanoi T&T
Kevin Molino – Orlando City

http://ttffonline.com/home/latest-news/mens-senior-team/895-hart-names-strong-20-man-squad-for-caribbean-cup-semi-final-stage.html

[dreamer]

Power team people. I was surprised at the depth of top T&T players. Iz war.

[Banter Banton]

I like this squad alot ! Good quality in depth too.

I would like to think this crop should get past the 3 teams in our group but we all know you have to do the job on the day but looking forward to seeing this crop of players get the ball down on the floor and keep it moving and take their chances.

I would go 4-2-3-1

----------------------------------Jan--------------------------------

----Hoyte-------------Mitchell-------------Bateau--------------J.Jones

-------------------------Hyland---------Boucaud
----------Peltier-----------------Guerra-----------------Molino

---------------------------------K.Jones------------------------------


I would like to see Hector get some minutes too. He can play CM/CAM/LAM/RAM

[frico]

WOW!!! Best collection of TT players to play in the Carribean Cup for a long time...we bong to fackin win. 

[elan]

I like this squad alot ! Good quality in depth too.

I would like to think this crop should get past the 3 teams in our group but we all know you have to do the job on the day but looking forward to seeing this crop of players get the ball down on the floor and keep it moving and take their chances.

I would go 4-2-3-1

----------------------------------Jan--------------------------------

----Hoyte-------------Mitchell-------------Bateau--------------J.Jones

-------------------------Hyland---------Boucaud
----------Peltier-----------------Guerra-----------------Molino

---------------------------------K.Jones------------------------------


I would like to see Hector get some minutes too. He can play CM/CAM/LAM/RAM

Jan

Hoyte

Mitchell

Bateau

J. Jones

Hyland

Guerra

Boucaud

Molino

        K Jones

      Peltier

[FireBrand]

Hart eh playing…. Big squad!!! 

[chelsealife]

I like this squad alot ! Good quality in depth too.

I would like to think this crop should get past the 3 teams in our group but we all know you have to do the job on the day but looking forward to seeing this crop of players get the ball down on the floor and keep it moving and take their chances.

I would go 4-2-3-1

----------------------------------Jan--------------------------------

----Hoyte-------------Mitchell-------------Bateau--------------J.Jones

-------------------------Hyland---------Boucaud
----------Peltier-----------------Guerra-----------------Molino

---------------------------------K.Jones------------------------------


I would like to see Hector get some minutes too. He can play CM/CAM/LAM/RAM

Jan

Hoyte

Mitchell

Bateau

J. Jones

Hyland

Guerra

Boucaud

Molino

        K Jones

      Peltier

Jan

J.Jones

Cyrus

Bateau

J. Hoyte

Hyland

Guerra

Boucaud

Molino

        K Jones

      Peltier

I'd start Cyrus over Mitchell

[Brownsugar]

So Wednesday's game is at the Ato Boldon, where are the other two matches being played? 

Edit:  Never mind!!  Found it over in another thread......

[CDR]

antigua goals against st. lucia

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/mhEouEgUNuI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/mhEouEgUNuI</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/WaA5EgMcomY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/WaA5EgMcomY</a>

[theworm2345]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1c14q-TmnEg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/1c14q-TmnEg</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/BfK8EJxHGL4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/BfK8EJxHGL4</a>

[CDR]

WATCH ANTIGUA VS DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AT 6PM EST

WATCH HERE: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wisports

or: http://antiguafootball.com/antigua-vs-dominican-republic-streaming/

[CDR]

antigua starting lineup vs dominican republic tonight at 6

Goalkeeper:
Molvin James (Old Road FC/Antigua)

Defenders:
Zaine Francis-Angol (Motherwell/Scotland)
Akeem “Leppy” Thomas (Caledonia AIA/Trinidad)
Connor Peters (Swansea City/England)
Quinton Griffith (Charleston Battery/USA)

Midfielders:
Keiran Murtagh (Woking/England)
Joshua Parker (Domzale/Slovenia)
Tomarley “Ziggy” Thomas (Hoppers FC/Antigua)
Calaum Jahraldo-Martin (Hull City/England)
Jorrin John (Nuneaton FC/England)

Striker :
Peter “Big Pete” Byers (Sap FC/Antigua)

Captain: Quinton “QQ” Griffith
Coach: Rolston “Debu” Williams (Antigua)
Technical Director: Piotr Nowak (Poland)