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Fans musT not suffer Ex-TTCB boss Murray on Red Steel issue:
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 08:25:57 AM »
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Ex-TTCB boss Murray on Red Steel issue:


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Story Created: Jul 17, 2014 at 9:22 PM ECT
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Former Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board president Deryck Murray said while he understands the arguments from Minister of Sports Anil Roberts and CEO of the Limacol Caribbean Premier League (LCPL) Damien O’Donohoe on the naming controversy surrounding the Red Steel, he hoped both parties could work to a resolution that would not deprive local cricket fans of viewing CPL action live.

Doubts about the future of the team emerged after Red Steel captain Dwayne Bravo publicly criticised the decision to drop the Trinidad and Tobago name from the franchise, a response which prompted Minister of Sport Anil Roberts--on whose request the nbame was dropped--to call for the LCPL to make a statement on the matter.

On Wednesday, O’Donohoe said in a media release  that theLCPL agreed with Roberts to remove the  Trinidad and Tobago  label from the Red Steel name. But he also stated  that the Red Steel are not restricted to playing their home games in this country and that any decision on where the team is based is dependent on the commitment and support the CPL has already enjoyed with other governments and owners.

“It is difficult to answer straightforward to say if this is a  bad thing or not but the two parties  would need to meet for the issue to be resolved amicably.  I could undersand both sides of the argument but at the end of the day, if  there is a product that  could be an attractive proposition, it would not be good  for the Trinidad and Tobago public to be deprived of sharing in that entertainment value that it (the CPL)  brings. So I hope there is a way  for the issue to be resolved  to the mutual benefit of sports lovers, “ Murray said yesterday.
O’Donohoe’s response hinted that the possibility exist that the Red Steel one day could not be based in  T&T.

“The fans in Trinidad and Tobago are second to none. They were fantastic supporters of CPL during its first year, and we look forward to bringing more games to Trinidad and Tobago, no matter where the franchise is based,” the CPL statement ended.
Yesterday, Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board executive member Baldath Mahabir said what the LCPL, a private entity, decided to do  in terms of basing the team in another country is totally up to them.

“We, the TTCB,  are not involved in the Red Steel team. We have  nothing,  zero involvement  in what is a private entity  it,” Mahabir said, “ So whoever owns the CPL can do what they see fit in terms of moving the teams around to any other country.  I guess the CPL would have to factor in the impact on the T&T cricket fans but that decision is totally theirs.” Mahabir said.



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Roberts: CPL violated the law ...by using T&T’s name without permission
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Roberts: CPL violated the law
...by using T&T’s name without permission


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 The intellectual property of the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago was utilised without permission when the Limacol Caribbean Premier League (CPL) organisers attached the country’s name to the Red Steel franchise without the permission of the government.
This was the assertion made by Minister of Sport Anil Roberts at press conference at the Ministry of Sport headquarters, in Port of Spain, yesterday.

In his statement, Roberts said: “In September last year, I instructed the representatives of CPL that they violated the law by using Trinidad and Tobago’s name without permission. “The intellectual property of the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago was utilised without permission, which would have had to be granted by the cabinet of Trinidad and Tobago, the duly elected representatives of the people and one of their duties is to protect the intellectual property of Trinidad and Tobago,” Roberts added.

Roberts also made it clear that, “The Minister of Sport had no decision to be made. The T&T name cannot be used by this format of franchise (cricket). “The Trinidad and Tobago name for a sporting team must be is exclusively and must be jealously guarded for citizens of the Republic Only. No foreigners can play on a T&T national team. The T&T team in cricket can only be selected, endorsed and sanctioned by the Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board.
“And in representing Trinidad and Tobago, the best of the best must be picked. With all due respect or Mr Dwayne Bravo, he is a great player but he does not constitute a Trinidad and Tobago team because he plays on it,” the minister added.

Roberts also noted that the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) have no authority to give someone the right to use of the Trinidad and Tobago sovereign name. “Does the WICB have the authority to give someone the use of T&T sovereign name? Not at all. Just like I, the representative of Trinidad and Tobago in sport could not suggest to them that they include Sunil Narine in the Test squad. I could only beg and write and plead and they ignored me. That is their right.

“They have absolutely no rights to the brand of a sovereign nation called Trinidad and Tobago,” Roberts insisted. He also noted that the statement made by CPL CEO Damien O’Donohoe in a media release from the CPL has taken on a different tone from the cordial discussions between the two parties. Roberts said: “The statement from Mr O’Donohoe has taken a different turn...it seems to be one that has taken a threatening nature to say that the Red Steel franchise will be removed and that it is not based in T&T.”

The CPL statement said: “The CPL would like to take this opportunity to reiterate that the Red Steel team is not a franchise that is based in Trinidad and Tobago. It is a team selected from the fantastic talent pool across the country.
“The team is not restricted to play its home games in Trinidad and Tobago, and ultimately, any decision on where the team is based is dependent on the commitment and support that CPL has already enjoyed with other Governments and owners.” “The fans in Trinidad and Tobago are second to none. They were fantastic supporters of CPL during its first year, and we look forward to bringing more games to Trinidad and Tobago, no matter where the franchise is based,” the CPL statement ended.

Roberts said: “Now he (O’Donohoe) says because the name was removed, this is no longer a Trinidad and Tobago based franchise, it could be based anywhere. “He is saying, had the paradox remained, that T&T remained on the Red Steel, that next year or whenever he decided, he could have moved the T&T franchise to Curacao and they would have been based in Curacao.
“I think the CPL is very confused,” Roberts added. Asked to clarify their statement further, the CPL said they have no further comments to make at this time.


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Roberts maintains stance on Red Steel
By KWESI BERKLEY Saturday, July 19 2014
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Minster of Sports Anil Roberts yesterday addressed the name of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) Red Steel franchise in a press conference at the Ministry of Sports Office in Port-of-Spain.

He started by saying that the name of Trinidad and Tobago is reserved wholly and exclusively for the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago and that no decision was made by the cabinet or by him.

“The Red Steel franchise cannot be named Trinidad and Tobago, it is not exclusive to the citizens of Trindad and Tobago.” he explained. “There are citizens from all over the world who can play for the Red Steel,” he explained.

Roberts went on to state that only the national sporting teams and sporting governing bodies can utilise the name “Trinidad and Tobago.” He explained that only teams selected by the national cricket board which include citizens of Trinidad and Tobago can claim the name Trinidad and Tobago. He also stressed that the rules and regulations were not created by him and cannot be changed by him.

He mentioned that he instructed the managers of the CPL that they had violated the law in utilising the name “Trinidad and Tobago” without permission which would have had to be granted by the Cabinet of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.

“They understood the position clearly in September last year and it was confirmed two and a half months ago in a meeting with the Ministry with CEO Mr (Damien) O’Donohoe, unfortunately the CPL communication was terrible and someone forgot to tell the captain of the Red Steel, Dwayne Bravo, that his team was Red Steel,” he added. He went on to say that the statement from O’Donohoe seemed to be one of a threatening nature to say that the Red Steel franchise will be removed and it’s not based in Trinidad and Tobago and therefore the fans will suffer.

He reiterated “the Minister of Sport has no decision to be made, the Trinidad and Tobago name cannot be used by this format or franchise. The Trinidad and Tobago name for sporting teams is exclusively and jealously guarded for citizens of the Republic only. No foreigners can play on a Trinidad and Tobago national team. “The Trinidad and Tobago team in cricket can only be selected, endorsed and sanctioned by the Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board.”

He continued, “when representing Trinidad and Tobago the best of the best must be picked. With all due respect to Mr Bravo he is a great national, however he does not constitute a Trinidad and Tobago team because he plays on it.”

Roberts ended by saying he supports all the teams, “personally I think Tallawahs (Jamaica) is the best team based on paper but I support all the teams, it’s exciting cricket but it’s franchise cricket and it’s not national team cricket. If it were, then I will look forward to Mr Bravo or Sunil Narine, Ravi Rampaul and others playing in the Indian Superstars, the Australian Kangaroos franchise which will come out shortly (or) the New Zealand Kiwis or the USA Stripes.”



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roll ah spliff, Anil!!!!

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I'm watching today's game and it seems like the commentators are making an extra effort to call the team the Trinidad & Tobago Red Steel....especially Ian Bishop.  Good thing Anil is already bald...he might be pulling his hair out all now  :frustrated:

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I'm watching today's game and it seems like the commentators are making an extra effort to call the team the Trinidad & Tobago Red Steel....especially Ian Bishop.  Good thing Anil is already bald...he might be pulling his hair out all now  :frustrated:

I thought I was the only one to notice that. As far as I am concerned they are from Trinidad and Tobago. Who vex because red force t20 team dead dais them. That is the real reason
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Taylor and Obrien batting rel sensible.

Yeah...they're earning their paycheques today.

Ian Bishop is making it blatantly clear what he thinks about Anil's utterances...he's putting extra emphasis on saying Trinidad & Tobago :D


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The players have the TT flag on their helmet.

Like he forget dat.  :)
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Is there a woman in the middle of this controversy ? Anil can you tell us  the real reason ?
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CPL semantics ...name switch, blame game
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2014, 08:49:50 AM »
CPL semantics
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Story Created: Jul 20, 2014 at 11:35 PM ECT
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What a tangled web this second season of the Limacol Caribbean Premier League is becoming.
Anil Roberts is quite obviously on the ball when he asserts that “Trinidad and Tobago” is the name of a sovereign nation, so if the government of that country, after protracted discussions with officials of the LCPL, determines that the name is not to be used to identify a franchise – whatever its structure and composition – based in the country, then that is their right.

But is the Sports Minister fervently beating this drum and therefore presenting himself as defender of national identity and honour so as to divert attention from both the scandal surrounding the LifeSport programme and a one-year-old video clip that has come into the public domain featuring a man saying something about taking two pull, prompting the elite-level swimming coach to declare that neither voodoo nor the People’s National Movement will distract him from his mission? Or is he just being churlish and mean-spirited, given that the governments where the other five franchises are based have not voiced any similar concern?
Last year, even as the fans were filling the grounds and much of the cricket-loving Caribbean public had bought into the hype, the Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board was expressing its objection to the name of the country being attached to the Red Steel, noting that the national cricket team of this country already had its own brand, “The Red Force,” which was important to protect as the legitimate national cricket brand given the success enjoyed with a hat-trick of Caribbean T20 titles and global exposure through frequent appearances in the Indian Champions League.

Yet the question was raised immediately: what have the TTCB done to market their brand, even now? Is “Red Force” merchandise available at sporting and other outlets across the country? Or was the objection to the Trinidad and Tobago name just about spite, based on the belief, expressed by quite a few fans and media observers during the inaugural competition, that the LCPL franchise format was all about mashing up T&T’s dominance of regional T20 cricket? Then we have the LCPL CEO Damien O’Donohoe issuing a statement last week in which he is quoted as saying: “The CPL would like to take this opportunity to reiterate that the Red Steel team is not a franchise that is based in Trinidad and Tobago. It is a team selected from the fantastic talent pool across the country.”

This is inaccurate on two counts. Firstly, every news release issued by the Caribbean Premier League, from last year to now, states at the bottom: “Caribbean Premier League is a ‘FRANCHISE-BASED’ T20 format cricket tournament that combines two of the most compelling aspects of Caribbean life – dramatic cricket and a vibrant Carnival atmosphere.”
Secondly, the first three in the batting order for yesterday’s match, Kennar Lewis, Kevin O’Brien and Ross Taylor were not drawn from the “fantastic talent pool across the country,” unless we’ve annexed Jamaica, Ireland and New Zealand and forgot to tell anyone about it.
That’s the accuracy part. Now for the inference element of the release. “The team is not restricted to play its home games in Trinidad and Tobago, and ultimately, any decision on where the team is based is dependent on the commitment and support that the CPL has already enjoyed with other Governments and owners...The fans in Trinidad and Tobago are second to none. They were fantastic supporters of CPL during its first year, and we look forward to bringing more games to Trinidad and Tobago, no matter where the franchise is based.”

So, given that the present Government of Trinidad and Tobago does not appear willing to play ball, does this mean the Red Steel could be based elsewhere from next season? Curiously, throughout yesterday’s match at the Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, where the team that plays in red, white and black thrashed the hosts Antigua Hawksbills by nine wickets with almost three overs to spare, the television commentators made consistent reference to the “Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel.”

My understanding is that there has been no change to the government’s stance on the matter, so what’s going on here? Then there’s the issue that appears to have seriously impacted on spectator attendance so far in the 2014 tournament-- the timing of the matches, which is geared to cater to a more international television audience.

We’ll be experiencing the situation first-hand this week with the side based here (I really don’t know how to refer to them now) taking on the Guyana Amazon Warriors at 8 p.m. on Thursday, the Jamaica Tallawahs at 12 noon on Saturday and the St Lucia Zouks at 4 p.m. on Sunday. TV rights money versus “live” atmosphere. Just another issue for debate at LCPL 2014.


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Thumbs up for Anil, WICB
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Thumbs up for Anil, WICB
Published: Guardian
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The Minister of Sport, Anil Roberts and the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) must be applauded for their respective decisions taken concerning national and regional identity as it relates to cricket. Although the issues are different, the decision taken by the WICB reinforces the position taken by Minister Roberts. Minister Roberts has rightly asked the officials of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) to remove the name Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) from the Red Steel. There are several reasons why his actions are justified.
 
Firstly, the name ‘Trinidad and Tobago’ should be reserved solely to represent the citizens (whether native or naturalised) of Trinidad and Tobago. Likewise only sporting teams consisting of citizens of T&T should be allowed to use the name Trinidad and Tobago.
 
Trinidad and Tobago is not just a name but represents a country’s identity through its history, economics, politics and culture. As such the country’s identity must be protected and defended by its citizenry whether they reside in or outside the country.
 
Patriotic pride should be attached to the name. If the national anthem had to be played, whose anthem would be played? And this argument applies not only to Trinidad and Tobago but to every other country in the CPL and the rest of the world.
 
Secondly, CPL is a franchise competition. It is owned and operated by a private company using a business model of profit maximisation. Each of the six (6) franchises are privately owned. The franchises comprise of players drawn from a regional and international pool. The government nor the respective local national cricket body does not have any authority in the operation of these franchises. Therefore, it is only logical that these franchises should only bear the non-country names (Red Steel, Amazon Warriors, Trident, Hawksbill, Zouk and Tallawahs) they have chosen.
 
The difference between the CPL and the Stanford 20/20 is that the latter allowed for individual countries to compete against each other. Each country and their respective cricket board was responsible for their national team. The free movement of regional or international players was not allowed. Therefore, there was no need to question the usage of Trinidad and Tobago as all the players were bona fide citizens of the country.
 
Thirdly, the response of the CEO of the CPL Damien O’Donohoe reinforces the above points and the position of Minister Roberts. According to O’Donohoe, “CPL would like to take this opportunity to reiterate that the Red Steel team is not a franchise that is based in T&T….The team is not restricted to play its home games in T&T.”
 
This comment indicates that the Red Steel franchise whether it is carrying the name T&T or not is not guaranteed to be playing out of T&T.
 
Franchise sports, in this case cricket, is a new phenomenon in the Caribbean. It represents a professional league comprising of teams representing respective cities. In the Caribbean it seems unclear at this moment as to what necessarily constitute a franchise in terms of its location based on the CPL CEO’s comment about the Red Steel.
 
The current league is now equivalent to all the other leagues in Test playing countries such as the IPL (India) and Big Bash (Australia). Previously, a country represented the West Indies in the annual Champions League playing against franchises from the other Test playing countries.
 
As the concept is new to the region, it will take some time to adjust. Even some of the radio commentators are committing the error of calling the games by country for instance Jamaica vs Antigua.
 
The organisers can help overcome this situation by encouraging the development of a franchise support base as is done in other professional sports through the sale of franchise merchandize such as jerseys, caps, flags, foam fingers etc. This will go a long way toward separating country from franchise identity and a win-win situation.
 
The importance of separating national identity from franchise identity has been reinforced by the WICB decision to reject the recommendation of free movement of players by the director of cricket Richard Pybus. Pybus claim is that such a move will improve the standard of play at the regional level. However, the argument put forward by the WICB is that such a move would result in the national identities of the countries being lost. Regional cricket has a rich history of keenly contested inter-island rivalry and this history and tradition must be allowed to continue.
 
It is important to remember that supporting any event or idea does not mean that you have to agree to everything. Principles must always be respected! Sports has and will continue to be a strong source of passionate national identity. All the best to our national athletes who will be flying the national flag at the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow, Scotland.


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Re: Thumbs up for Anil, WICB
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Caribbean Premier League 2014 Red Steel franchise name issue resolved
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Red Steel franchise name issue resolved

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The issue regarding the name of the Caribbean Premier League franchise Red Steel has been resolved and the team will once again be called "Trinidad & Tobago Red Steel", the CPL has said.

The CPL had earlier agreed to omit the words "Trinidad & Tobago" from the name, based on a request from the Minister of Sport Anil Roberts. According to Roberts, the use of the country name infringed "on the protocols surrounding the use of the name and the sovereignty of the nation".



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Name should not of been changed in the first place
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Re: Caribbean Premier League 2014 Red Steel franchise name issue resolved
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2014, 06:32:47 AM »
RED STEEL SPIN
Griffith, Anil clash as T&T name returned to CPL cricket team


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Story Created: Jul 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM ECT
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The Trinidad and Tobago name has rejoined the Red Steel, with thanks to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.
The Caribbean Premier League (CPL) and Minister of National Security Gary Griffith said yesterday the Prime Minister and the Gov­ernment had to be thanked for returning the Trinidad and Tobago name to the Red Steel franchise.
Roberts argued only Cab­inet could make a decision like this while Griffith insisted Cabinet had no decision to make on the Red Steel name issue.
The CPL announcement seemed to lead to tension yesterday between Griffith and Sport Minister Anil Roberts over who should decide if the T&T name should return to the Red Steel franchise.

CPL thanked Persad-Bissessar and the Government for helping to resolve the issue.
The T&T name was dropped from the Red Steel franchise after discussions between the CPL and Roberts recently.
The issue became public when Red Steel skipper Dwayne Bravo voiced his concerns about the change after his team’s first match against the Barbados Tridents in Gre­nada earlier this month.

There was a turnaround yesterday, via two CPL news releases.

The first one announced the CPL “was pleased that the matter regarding the naming of the Red Steel franchise has been resolved and that the team will once again proudly bear the name of Tri­nidad and Tobago Red Steel”.

The release also stated the CPL “would particularly like to thank (National Security) Minister Gary Griffith for his timely intervention in this matter and for his support in bringing it to a positive conclusion”.
Contacted by the Express yesterday, Griffith said there would be an “amendment” to the CPL statement.


Asked if he had anything to do with the name change, Griffith said: “That is the Prime Minister and the Government of Trinidad and Tobago.”

That second statement quo­ted

CPL chief executive Damien O’Don­ohoe, who extended “sincerest thanks to the honourable Prime Min­ister of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and her Government for their ongoing support for CPL and, in particular, her help in restoring the Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel name to the franchise”.

He continued: “We are absolute­ly thrilled that the Red Steel will once again proudly bear the name of Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel, and with three home games this week, we are in no doubt that this news will give captain Dwayne Bravo and his team an extra boost in their efforts to take home the title of CPL Champions 2014.”

But asked about the turn of events yesterday, Roberts, at a news conference at his ministry in Port of  , said: “A press release was sent out by CPL (yesterday) stating that the Red Steel will retain T&T’s name, with the help from the Minister of National Security.
Let me state that for this period here, I am the Minister of Sport for the Republic of Trinidad and Toba­go and I had no decision to make. The facts are there—the Red Steel cannot be called Trinidad and Toba­go. It is not a national team. The position has not changed.”

Roberts added: “I have just seen something from the CPL...I can tell you, the only person or persons who can overturn history, who can overturn the convention of national teams and national sport...the only group of people who can do that at any one point in time is the Cabinet of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, led by the honourable Prime Minister, who at this time is the hon­ourable Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and include the Attorney General and the other Cabinet ministers.

They are the only persons who can overturn or change the prece­dence with the utilisation of the name Trinidad and Tobago.”
Roberts said: “You can ask Gary Griffith what he said, who he spoke to, on whose authority, because Cabinet has not met since last week Thursday, and in Cabinet last week Thursday, there was no discussion and no decision to overturn anything.”
 
 
PM: Issues to be vented at Cabinet
 
Question to PM Kamla Persad-Bissessar by text: Your Minister of Sport attacked your Minister of National Security at a press conference today. Are you aware? Are you going to deal with it?
Response: “Not aware thus far but should there be a disagreement amongst ministers same would be discussed at Cabinet on Thursday which is the appropriate forum
for ventilating same.”

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« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2014, 06:40:03 AM »
Roberts ‘wrote on his own’
Griffith: Cabinet not involved in decision...


Story Created: Jul 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM ECT
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 Minister of National Security Gary Griffith yesterday insisted Cabinet has no decision to make.
“Cabinet could not overturn what they did not decide in the first place,” he said.
“Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel—that was always the name. The only way that could have changed is if the Government of Trinidad and Tobago had taken a decision to stop it. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago never stopped it.

“Minister Roberts wrote to CPL on his own. That was not a Cabinet decision when he wrote to the CPL. He wrote as Anil Roberts and not on behalf of the Government,” Griffith told the Express yesterday.
Asked if the CPL needed the permission of Cabinet to use the T&T name as part of the name of the Red Steel franchise, Griffith said: “The CPL would have only needed that (permission) if the Government had a protest because that name was used since last year and it was not an issue.

“Only if there is a concern by the Government then the Government, based on a Cabinet decision, would have written to CPL voicing their concern, and that was never done.”


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« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2014, 06:47:29 AM »
Minister Roberts refutes Red Steel name change
By ZARA BRIDGEMOHAN-GRANT Wednesday, July 23 2014
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THE CONTROVERSY continues over the name Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel.

Sports Minister Anil Roberts yesterday squashed hopes that the Red Steel, the Limacol Caribbean Premier League (CPL) franchise cricket team would be allowed to add Trinidad and Tobago to its name.

In a press conference at the Ministry of Sports’ office at Abercromby Street, Port-of-Spain yesterday, Roberts was asked to respond to reports that Minister of National Security Gary Griffith had resolved the matter.

Roberts said, “the Red Steel cannot be called Trinidad and Tobago. It is not a national team and the word Trinidad and Tobago in the name is only for citizens of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago only.

“The Red Steel is a franchise team consisting of players from Barbados, New Zealand, Ireland and across the globe. The position has not changed. The Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board is the only authorised organisation who can utilise the words Trinidad and Tobago.

“Everybody could support which franchise team they would like. Trinidad and Tobago, the name, is not for sale. It cannot be used by any business man who feel that they want to use it.”

Roberts declared that “the only person or persons who can overturn, not a decision, I don’t like to say the word decision, overturn history, who can overturn the way, the conventions of national teams and national sports,” was the TT Cabinet led by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and including the Attorney General and other Cabinet ministers.

He noted, “So I don’t know what Gary Griffith told anyone, wrote anyone, but I can assure the CPL, the Caribbean Community, that at this point in time, the Cabinet of Trinidad and Tobago and the Prime Minister have change nothing so I do not know what Gary Griffith has changed, on what basis, on what authority or who told him, who advised him but there has been no reversal, unless, and until on Thursday, the Prime Minister and Cabinet decide in its wisdom to do anything differently, only then will there be any changes.”

Roberts noted, “at this point, the CPL could put what they want, who they want and thank Gary Griffith but there has been no change, the Red Steel is still a franchise.”

Roberts was responding to a media release from Limacol CPL yesterday in which the management said matter regarding the Red Steel franchise has been resolved, that the team will once again be called Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel. The Limacol CPL management thanked Griffith for his intervention in bringing the matter to a “positive conclusion.”

Said Limacol CPL CEO Damien O’Donohoe in the release, “on behalf of the entire CPL team, we would like to extend our sincerest thanks to the Honourable Prime Minister of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and her Government for their ongoing support for CPL and in particular her help in restoring the Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel name to the franchise.

“We are absolutely thrilled that the Red Steel will once agin proudly bear the name of Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel, and, with three home games this week, we are in no doubt that this news will give Captain Dwayne Bravo and his team an extra boost in their efforts to take home the title of CPL Champions 2014.

“We wish them all the best and would like to thank the fans in Trinidad and Tobago for their fantastic support.”

Roberts also said at yesterday’s press conference that he will be backing the Guyana Amazon Warriors in their match against the Red Steel tomorrow at the Queen’s Park Oval, St Clair with its Trinidadian players Sunial Narine, Denesh Ramdin and Lendl Simmons.

Controversy erupted on July 12 when Sports Minister Anil Roberts said that the cricket team now playing in the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) could not be called the Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel.


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CPL claims T&T name for Red Steel
Published: Guardian
Wednesday, July 23, 2014
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Kevin O’Brien, left, and Darren Bravo, right, of the T&T Red Steel were on hand as Karen Chapman, winner of Guardian Group LCPL trivia contest received her six tickets from Larry Olton, Guardian Holdings executive.

Confusion reigned yesterday regarding the naming of the Red Steel franchise in the current Limacol Caribbean Premier League T20 tournament. While the players were busy getting themselves ready for their fourth round clash against the Guyana Amazon Warriors at the Queen’s Park Oval tomorrow, press releases were flying left, right and centre. Minister of Sport, Anil Roberts had called on officials of the CPL to drop the T&T name from the Red Steel two weeks ago, citing that it was a franchise and not representative of a national team. This caused some alarm and although Roberts revealed that CPL had agreed that they erred in the matter and would remove the name, there was still discontent in certain quarters.
 
The minister provided strong arguments for the removal of T&T from the franchise but organisers were relentless and pursued the matter with government officials in T&T. Yesterday, the confusion started at 12.44 pm when Sandra Welch-Farrell & Company, acting on behalf of Digicel, issued a press release stating that T&T was restored to the team’s title. The release read: ”The management of the Limacol Caribbean Premier League is pleased that the matter regarding the naming of the Red Steel franchise has been resolved and that the team will once again proudly bear the name of T&T Red Steel. “We would particularly like to thank Minister Gary Griffith for his timely intervention in this matter and for his support in bringing it to a positive conclusion. We can now concentrate our efforts on ensuring that the remainder of the tournament is a resounding success and that cricket fans across the world enjoy it to the fullest.”
 
At a press conference at his offices on Abercromby Street to clear up matters concerning the controversial Life Sport programme minutes later, Roberts was asked about the realease. He responded: “As at this time, the name remains the Red Steel. I don’t know who Griffith has been speaking to and what right he has on the matter but the only one to make that decision is the cabinet of T&T. At this point in time, no one has told me otherwise and at last week’s cabinet meeting there was no decision on the matter. I don’t know how and why Griffith gets himself involved in this.” Another release was sent out by Digicel at 1.26 pm which quoted Limacol CPL CEO, Damien O’Donohoe, as follows: “On behalf of the entire CPL team, we would like to extend our sincerest thanks to the Honourable Prime Minister of the Republic of T&T, Kamla Persad Bissessar, and her Government for their ongoing support for CPL and in particular her help in restoring the T&T Red Steel name to the franchise.”
 
He continued: “We are absolutely thrilled that the Red Steel will once again proudly bear the name of T&T Red Steel, and, with three home games this week, we are in no doubt that this news will give captain Dwayne Bravo and his team an extra boost in their efforts to take home the title of CPL Champions 2014. We wish them all the best and would like to thank the fans in T&T for their fantastic support.” In response to the latest release, Roberts said that he could not make a comment because it did not come officially from the office of the Prime Minister, and as far as he was concerned the name was still Red Steel.



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The Red Steel controversy...


Story Created: Jul 23, 2014 at 11:58 PM ECT
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‘COMMERCIAL ISSUE’: Former West Indies leg spinner Dinanath Ramnarine.


Former West Indies and Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) leg spinner Dinanath Ramnarine said the raging issue concerning the use of T&T’s name with the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) Twenty20 franchise the Red Steel is purely a commercial one.
Speaking to the media yesterday at the CL Financial Suite at the Queen’s Park Oval during the launch of the The Daren Ganga Cricket Coaching Series titled “The Fundamentals”, Ramnarine said the right to use Trinidad and Tobago’s name should be limited to the country’s national team.

“I think the question that really needs to be asked is whether the Red Steel is in fact the Trinidad and Tobago national team.”
He said if that is the case then the issue of if the team was selected by the national selectors as well as commercial issues such as whether the National Gas Company (NGC), who is the sponsor of the national team, can use their rights with regards to the Red Steel.
Ramnarine said it should have never reached to this point since the issue of the use of Red Steel, which bears close resemblance to Red Force, the name used by T&T national team, should have been dealt with from the inception.

He said the reason why there’s so much fuss is because the parties who signed the agreements have remained silent on the issue to date, adding that the West Indies Cricket Board (WIBC) should clear the air by making public the nature of the agreement and whether they sold the right to use the Trinidad and Tobago national team.
Ramnarine added that if the WIBC did in fact sell the right to the name use then they would have committed the error of selling something they did not own and this could lead to a dangerous precedent being set.
“If a T&T team is selected by the national selectors under the same format and the same terms and conditions then that constitutes a T&T team but if it’s not then it’s a franchise and I think the owners of the league and the WICB need to clearly state if the Red Steel is a T&T national team or a franchise,” Ramnarine said.
He said should it turn out that the team is a national one then it gives NGC the right to have its logo on the team’s uniform, but it seems to be a clear case of the sponsors getting what they want while everyone else is confused.

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PM: ‘I’ve dealt with it’
By ANDRE BAGOO Friday, July 25 2014
Newsday

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PRIME Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday assured the nation that she had “dealt with” Sport Minister Anil Roberts and Minister of National Security Gary Griffith over their public spat on the issue of the use of “TT” in the Red Steel cricket team representing TT in the CPL T20 cricket competition.

Persad-Bissessar stated the issue, “doesn’t really change the price of sugar or flour or oil”, but addressed the issue at the post-Cabinet press briefing.

“I have said before that where there are disagreements between members; ministers of the Cabinet that Cabinet becomes the forum under my leadership to resolve such issues,” Persad-Bissessar told reporters at the Office of the Prime Minister, St Clair. “I am very happy that the final matches are being played in Trinidad and Tobago and that Red Steel is amongst those that will be performing.

“Those games for Trinidad and Tobago are going to be immense for promotion as a destination. I am very pleased that Trinidad is

the home base for the Red Steel team.”

She continued, “As to a specific matter of the dispute between the two ministers, I have dealt with this matter; we have discussed it today. I have made my views known to both ministers and I want to further indicate I do not approve of public squabbling between ministers. Such matters should be dealt with at the forum of the Cabinet and the sub-committees of the Cabinet. I thank you all very much for your time. I return to my Cabinet meeting.”

The Prime Minister did not address the issue of the Life Sport programme, which has also been a source of public divergence of views of both ministers. She took no questions. Winston Dookeran, the founder of the Congress of the People — to which both ministers are said to be members — said at the same briefing that it was not in the public interest to add to the squabble.

“I don’t think it would be in the public interest for me to add to the squabble and I believe the question should really be properly addressed to the current leader of the Congress of the People,” he said.

Last night, at the National Gas Company (NGC) stakeholder appreciation ceremony at the Hyatt Regency in Port-of-Spain, PM Persad-Bissessar in delivering the feature address, declared that the cricket team will indeed be called the TT Red Steel.