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Re: Rastafari and dreadlocks
« Reply #180 on: May 05, 2012, 12:38:06 AM »

 Depressing thread for when yuh going naturally bald.
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Re: Rastafari and dreadlocks
« Reply #181 on: May 05, 2012, 05:51:06 AM »
Depressing thread for when yuh going naturally bald.

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Re: Rastafari and dreadlocks
« Reply #182 on: May 05, 2012, 02:55:32 PM »
Wha bout the person who I ask the question in the first post, is now a public figure and his ras has been flown a few yrs now.

Well dis is de second time he fly it. Who knows, it might return one day?  ;D
Touches, i think you getting mixed up with "dread lucks, nutty/ natty dread" and rastafarianism. a true rastaman is not defined by a hair style, but his creed and allegiance.

there are many rastas who are dreadless, take for instance the emperor himself, the one who most rastas claim as their shining example and GOD/ creator, is ah pure bald head!

not only is he a bald head, but the man is also an aristocrat with a fervor for entertaining high society guest, he also gave expensive gifts to royalties the world over and does not share the same conservative views as most rastas,

hek, the man barely made it as ah black man, bc IMO he looks more like an arab or a modern day jew, than a black man, though i accept him as an african.........just saying, and the man does not fit the bill as having anything to do with the bohemian minded rastafarians and rastafaianism, as far as i can see.

nutty dreads and dread locks on the other hand could fall in a wide range of categories, such as roots men, who live on the land and rejects anything modern (check out mother earth), "bifal" a group in senegal who follow sufism that wear their hair in a dread lock style, and the black heart men from jamaica, who wears the hairstyle but does not identify with selassie or christianity for that matter.
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Re: Rastafari and dreadlocks
« Reply #183 on: March 20, 2013, 10:08:16 AM »
Rastas won't budge
Maria Bradshaw | Sun, March 17, 2013 - 12:01 AM
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http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/articles/view/rastas-wont-budge/#94202

When Judy Phillips was told by her partner that he would put a roof over her head, she might have expected a dream home.
 
But when he took her to a wooded area where he had built a small shanty for them to live in, she found dream land. 
 
“He showed me the land and ask me if I like it and I told him ‘yes’,” said the soft-spoken herbalist who raised all of her 11 children on the land.
 
Today, the close-knit Rastafarian family of 23, including Phillips’ 11 children, 11 grandchildren and one great-grand, may well be Barbados’ richest poor family.
 
They still live in the woods occupying five shanties made out of old galvanized sheets and pieces of old wood, scattered on almost 8.38 acres of the land.
 
But the property has turned out to be prime real estate, forming the undeveloped portion of the affluent Fort George Heights neighbourhood in St Michael, where million-dollar homes are built and only the well-to-do can afford to live.
 
However, for Phillips and her family who have been squatting on the land for more than 30 years, it is not about the money or even the fact that they are sitting on some of the most sought-after land in Barbados.
 
They have refused to budge even though land owners – insurance conglomerate Sagicor Life Inc. –  offered them over a million dollars at one point and also four acres with title deed to boot.
 
“We are not moving and we are not taking any bribes or offers,” said son Junior Phillips, 36. “We will stay here and fight for what is ours. We were on this land before there was a place called Fort George Heights.” 
 
Their attorney David Comissiong has already stated that, by virtue of living on the land for so long, they have acquired certain legal entitlements through the Limitations And Prescription Act.

The family has no electricity and their running water was disconnected a while ago for non-payment of a huge bill.
 
Judy remembered living in the area when there were no houses, no amenities; just her family and canes.
 
She said the then owner of the land, a Caucasian plantation owner they knew as Mr Deane, gave them his blessings when he discovered that they were living there.
 
“He told us that we could live on the land for as long as we wanted as long as we did not give any trouble,” she explained. “I remember when the white man use to be out there cutting canes, my children would see him and run but he use to call them and give them cane to suck and something to eat.”
 
Junior pointed out that over the years they had cut down some of the trees and started farming the ground, planting food and herbs.
 
They said it was only when Sagicor bought the land that their peaceful inhabitance changed.
 
“They have been trying to get us off the land for years. I don’t know what the fight is about because we don’t want to fight. All we want is a piece of the rock but it seems to us that people grudge us. This is a whole heap of jook-out-eye thing.”
 
Junior complained that everything had been done to make living for them uncomfortable, with access paths they once used being blocked off.
 
“We had trees planted to form a barrier and they brought a Bobcat and cut them down. My family kept a lot of noise and they had to replant them,” he said.
 
The family now uses an access road in Lower Burney, St George.
 
Judy remains undaunted by the struggle. Her only dream now is to keep her close-knit family intact on the land where many of them were born.
 
Junior dreams of better surroundings.
 
“Right now our family is tight,” he said. “We are just a little financially embarrassed but I would like to see the day when my brothers and sisters can rise up and build decent houses out here and continue to live on this land.”


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Re: Rastafari and dreadlocks
« Reply #184 on: March 20, 2013, 02:08:53 PM »
I wonder what kind of herbs they planting?
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The Rastafarians' flawed African 'promised land'
« Reply #185 on: September 13, 2014, 08:33:56 AM »
The Rastafarians' flawed African 'promised land'
By Chris Summers
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http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28059303

Forty years ago Emperor Haile Selassie of Ethiopia was overthrown. It was a blow for all Rastafarians, who revere him as a god - and for those Rastafarians who had emigrated to Ethiopia, life suddenly got more difficult.

In 1948 Emperor Haile Selassie gave 500 acres (200 hectares) of land at Shashamene, 150 miles (225km) south of Addis Ababa, to black people from the West who had supported him in his struggles with Mussolini's Italy.

The first settlers to arrive were African-American Jews, but they soon moved on to Liberia or Israel. After them, in 1963, came a dozen Rastafarians, and the numbers swelled after Selassie made an emotional visit to Jamaica three years later.

The Rastafarians' adoration of Selassie stems from the words of black consciousness leader Marcus Garvey, who said in 1920, "Look to Africa, when a black king shall be crowned, for the day of deliverance is at hand". When Selassie was crowned emperor, 10 years later, many thought Garvey's words had come true.

Another belief widely held by Rastafarians is that they will eventually return to Africa - the continent their ancestors left in slave ships long ago. And quite often, according to Erin MacLeod - author of Visions of Zion: Ethiopians and Rastafari in the Search for the Promised Land - "back to Africa" is treated as synonymous with "back to Ethiopia".

Today there are up to 800 Rastafarians at Melka Oda, near Shashamene, as well as a few in the capital, Addis Ababa, and in the city of Bahir Dar. But how has life turned out for them in Ethiopia - and what do Ethiopians make of their Rastafarian neighbours?

It has not been a love affair.

In 1974, the communist Dergue regime overthrew and imprisoned Selassie - who died the following year - and began purging all vestiges of the imperial dynasty. Land was nationalised, including the land granted to foreigners at Shashamene, and some Rastafarians settlers fled.

Even today, long after the fall of the Dergue, Selassie remains a controversial figure in Ethiopia, and many look askance at the Rastafarians who venerate him.

"There are people who have extreme love for Selassie, the modernising leader who did so much for the country, but others say he was a representative of a colonial empire, was enamoured by the opulence of Europe and did not lead the country in an equitable way," says MacLeod.

There have been other problems too.

One is "ganja" - marijuana - considered a herb of religious significance by Rastafarians, who sometimes refer to it as the "wisdom weed" or "holy herb".

In Ethiopia, by contrast, it is regarded as a dangerous drug, comparable to heroin or cocaine, says MacLeod. Ethiopian police sometimes raid the Rastafarian settlement at Shashamene to search for it, she says - even though khat, a stimulant leaf that is widely chewed in the country, is held by some experts to be more harmful.

It is also unfortunate that the land granted by Selassie is located in a region populated by the Oromo people, who say they have been oppressed for years by Ethiopia's dominant Amhara commnity, to which Selassie belonged.

According to MacLeod, Selassie was for the "Amharisation" of Ethiopia.

"On the local level, in Shashamene, the Rastas support the emperor, who, in the eyes of the Oromo people, represents a coercive central power," agrees Dr Giulia Bonacci, an Italian Rastafarian researcher based in Addis Ababa.

"In a region still marked by a history of alienation from land and economic and social dominance, symbols of imperial power are not appreciated."

The Rastafarians have, up to a point, integrated with the local Ethiopian population. Some have married Ethiopians, but on the whole these Ethiopian partners have not adopted the Rastafarian faith.

"She don't fight me about my faith. I don't fight her. She's a Protestant," says Vincent Wisdom, a Rastafarian man with an Ethiopian wife. None of his five children share his faith either. "Two of them are Orthodox and one of them is Protestant; the others are too small," he says.

MacLeod has met only one Ethiopian, Naod Seifu, who has converted to Rastafarianism.

"I used to have dreadlocks but I have to trim them to work," he told her. "In Ethiopia having dreadlocks is taken as bad behaviour and inappropriate." He added that any Ethiopian who believed the king was divine was regarded as "mad".


The main Rastafarian sects or "mansions"

Nyahbinghi - the oldest of all Rastafarian orders. The name is derived from Queen Nyahbinghi who ruled Uganda in the 19th century and fought against the British Empire. They were the first to proclaim Emperor Haile Selassie as the incarnation of the supreme deity. The Nyahbinghi pushed for repatriation to Ethiopia.

Bobo Shanti - the name is derived from Bobo, which stands for Black, and Ashanti, a tribe from Ghana. It is believed most of the slaves brought to Jamaica were from the Ashanti tribe. Prince Emanuel Charles Edwards founded the Bobo Shanti order in Jamaica in the 1950s. He, along with his descendants and Haile Selassie, are seen as gods. Marcus Garvey is regarded as a prophet. The Bobo Shanti also believe black people should be compensated financially for slavery. They wear long robes and very tightly wrapped turbans, and avoid eating salt and oil.

The 12 Tribes - this sect was founded in 1968 by Dr Vernon "Prophet Gad" Carrington and is the most liberal of all Rastafarian orders. Twelve Tribes members are free to worship in a church of their choosing or at home. They consider themselves the direct descendants of the 12 sons of Jacob. They are divided into 12 houses which are determined by birth month and each house is represented by a different colour. Bob Marley was their most famous follower.



When MacLeod first visited Shashamene in 2003, she was surprised by what she found.

"It was not at all the way it was described to me. It's not a Rastafarian town. It's 100,000 Ethiopians and only a few hundred Rastas living on the outskirts," she says.

Many more Rastafarians come to Ethiopia on holiday, either for a once-in-a-lifetime pilgrimage or for regular sojourns.

"Some will come once a year or every couple of years and they describe themselves as having 'one foot in Ethiopia'," she says.

Even those who live in the country long-term have mostly retained their British, American or Canadian passports to make it easier to travel abroad. But taking dual citizenship - and obtaining a second, Ethiopian passport - has never been possible.

Talks on the issue had been due to take place with former prime minister Meles Zenawi, according to MacLeod, but his death in 2012 put paid to the plan.

Most Ethiopians still consider Rastafarians foreigners, or "ferenjoch", she says.

"We know God is Haile Selassie, Him Mighty God. Now Him save the poor earth right now, and Him save the people," Bob Marley was quoted as saying in 1978, four years after the emperor was toppled.

"True dat dem overthrow 'im. In a sense, all a de people around him was really weird. But just how it go..."

In the same year Marley visited Shashamene, While there, says political scientist Horace Campbell, he began to realise "the problems of translating a dream into reality".

His wife, Rita, has talked nevertheless about the family's hopes of burying him in Shashamene.

Ethiopia, MacLeod says, will always remain the Rastafarians' promised land.
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