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Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« on: November 08, 2014, 04:38:12 PM »
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the Ecuador WNT vs T&T WNT 2014 World Cup qualifying match game at the Hasley Crawford Stadium (6pm TT Time) on the 2nd of December 2014 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

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Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers

Kimika Forbes, Tinesha Palmer.

Defenders

Ayanna Russell, Rhea Belgrave, Arin King, Liana Hinds, Brianna Ryce, Khadisha Debessette, Lauren Hutchinson, Patrice Superville.

Midfielders

Khadidra Debessette, Maylee Attin Johnson, Janine Francois, Karyn Forbes, Candice Edwards, Tasha St Louis, Ahkeela Mollon, Dernelle Mascall.

Forwards

Mariah Shade, Iyesha Olliverre, Kennya Cordner, Anique Walker, Jasmine Sampson.

Coach - Randy Waldrum.

Ecuador Squad

Shirley Berrus, Kerly Real, Lorena Aguilar, Ligia Moreira, Angie Ponce, Adriana Barre, Andrea Pesantes, Madeline Riera, Ingrid Rodriguez, Ambar Torres, Gianina Lattanzio.

Coach - Vanessa Arauz.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 08:31:49 PM »
Any clue as to what time this game will be?
 and when they will be on sale n how much tickets will be?


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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 09:16:24 PM »
Any clue as to what time this game will be?
 and when they will be on sale n how much tickets will be?



Of course not. Lets hope we at least go back 2 d phone in that they did for Becks and d 2010. D camp out scene 4 Bahrain not going to wuk in 2014.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 09:23:38 PM »
Any clue as to what time this game will be?

6pm
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2014, 05:27:43 AM »
Match info

Match at Hasely Crawford Stadium Dec 2

Tickets are $200 covered, $100 uncovered. Children under 12 are free for uncovered seats.

Match time is at 6pm.

Gates open at 3 PM and day of game tickets will be made available on site from 10 am.

Tickets will go on sale on Monday November 17 at soon to be identified outlets.

The TTFA is asking all to wear red for this winner takes all match.

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 05:26:08 PM »
Anybody saving tickets for de "spethal advitha". After all, this enterprise is not "pothable" without him.
We doh wah anybody (Horner included) to be getting unnecessary tabanca at the sight of a sea of red in the stadium
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 05:38:20 PM »
Match info

Match at Hasely Crawford Stadium Dec 2

Tickets are $200 covered, $100 uncovered. Children under 12 are free for uncovered seats.

Match time is at 6pm.

Gates open at 3 PM and day of game tickets will be made available on site from 10 am.

Tickets will go on sale on Monday November 17 at soon to be identified outlets.

The TTFA is asking all to wear red for this winner takes all match.



Why not $100 and $50. We want to max out.

I know we need money, but think about when we qualify. So home support is crucial.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 07:11:44 PM »
^^ Hope to see some strong marketing in the next couple days for this game. I have no doubt people will come out in the thousands to full the stadium. WEAR RED!

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 02:52:46 AM »
Waldrum eyes critical period.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


T&T women’s senior team head coach Randy Waldrum knows fully that the next couple weeks leading up to the December 2 final Fifa World Cup playoff qualifier against Ecuador at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo will be critical towards the chances of moving on.

Waldrum has intentions of putting the players through a fitness programme before resuming full preparations later in November.

“Everything we do from here is going to be critical. The girls will be working with a strength and conditioning coach and then we’ll all be back on the training field to fine tune things in the build up to the game. We have not qualified as yet. Yes it was a great result for us in Ecuador to come away with a point under those circumstances but the door is still wide open for both teams,” Waldrum said.

“Ecuador will feel they also have a great chance as do we. Staying focused and continuing  to the right things with the right intentions is w,” hat will make the difference for us.”

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 02:53:20 AM »
Shaka lauds progress of women’s team.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Shaka Hislop believes the national women’s team has been spurred on by adversity as they continue their quest for World Cup qualification.

Hislop spoke to BBC as he summed up their recent exploits and the situation in Dallas which saw Randy Waldrum appeal for help through twitter.

“The situation gave a bit of a siege mentality,” said Hislop. “It gave the girls real belief in their coach and how much he was fighting in their corner.

“The current administration inherited grave financial straits (since Raymond Tim Kee took over as president). They still have a lengthy list of creditors, a rising bill, and no corporate sponsorship so that’s a challenge.

“The issue the women face is not unique to them. All the teams, including youth teams who have competed in various tournaments this year, have had to endure, and somehow make their way around.

“It would be a huge stride forward for the women’s game,” he said. “Until recently there was no women’s league at all in Trinidad. Before that it was pretty much limited to wherever you can find a game with a boys team who maybe would have you.

“I have daughters who play soccer. I understand the importance of it not just as a spectacle but for the girls themselves and women’s sport in a broader note. They have done a very good job in highlighting some of the issues and some of the values that comes with it.”

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 11:30:14 AM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 05:14:36 PM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.

But she not even on de starting XI. Is only substitute appearances she's made over de last two years.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 06:35:30 PM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.

But she not even on de starting XI. Is only substitute appearances she's made over de last two years.
That doesnt matter as we need all the help we could get. And if it's big time as he says then making that team is good enough  :beermug: for now. J. Hoyte doesnt play for Millwall

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2014, 02:53:53 AM »
$100 and $200 to see women Soca Warriors.
By Andrew Gioannetti (Guardian).


The tickets for the December 2 Fifa Women’s World Cup Concacaf/Comnebol second leg playoff between T&T and Ecuador, which go on sale on Monday, are reasonably priced considering the historical significance of the event.

T&T Football Association (TTFA) general secretary Sheldon Phillips expressed this point yesterday, while suggesting that he expects a large turn-out at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port-of-Spain, for the Tuesday evening fixture set for a 6 pm kickoff.

Uncovered seats are priced at $100, while the covered section costs $200 to enter. Children under 12 years of age will not be charged for entry.

According to a TTFA release, the tickets go on sale on Monday at outlets to be identified in due course. Tickets will also be on sale on site from 10 am on the morning of the match and gates open from 3 pm.

Commenting on the ticket prices and his expectations of the demand, Phillips said he believes the team has generated considerable interest and that there is the potential for tickets to sell out at the venue, which accommodates roughly 23,000 spectators.

“The ticket prices reflect the immensity of the match. But, if 12,000 to 15,000 supporters turn out for the game, I wouldn’t consider that a failure. That would be the by far the biggest turn-out the women’s team would have gotten,” he added, comparing it to the men’s team, which he said has not been able to attract that many spectators in recent years.”

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2014, 06:18:50 AM »
TICKETS GO ON SALE ON Monday, November 17th AT THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS:
  • Trotter’s (Corner of Maraval and Sweet Briar Road St. Clair, Port of Spain)
  • Skinner Park (Cipero St., San Fernando)
  • The Fan Club (Movie Towne Mall - Port of Spain; Gulf City Mall - La Romaine; Trincity Mall - Trincity)
  • Ramsingh’s Sports World (155 Southern Main Road, Couva)
  • Kenny’s Sports (Queen & Chacon St. - Port of Spain; Long Circular Mall - St. James; The Falls at West Mall - Westmoorings; Carlton Centre - San Fernando; Trincity Mall - Trincity)
  • All Out Sports Bar (94 Tragarete Rd., Port of Spain)
  • Econo Supermarket (Sangre Grande)
  • Heritage Sport (Scarborough, Tobago)
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2014, 02:40:23 PM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.

But she not even on de starting XI. Is only substitute appearances she's made over de last two years.

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&ATCLID=208167112

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2014, 03:11:02 PM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.

But she not even on de starting XI. Is only substitute appearances she's made over de last two years.

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&ATCLID=208167112


So in four years she has never played an entire game? And only started one in three years? Odd.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2014, 03:12:56 PM »
T&T vs Ecuador Promo (from de Fearless One)

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2014, 02:10:47 AM »
Waldrum said theyre going to bring in the US College kids at the end of the month for training and to help prepare. I hope the former U17 captain who is at Stanford (a big time program) gets called up.

But she not even on de starting XI. Is only substitute appearances she's made over de last two years.

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&ATCLID=208167112


So in four years she has never played an entire game? And only started one in three years? Odd.

Stanford has a cohort of defenders with US JNT experience. It's likely that Schmidt's exposure on the TT-17s assisted her entry to Stanford, but in my view she was brought in as a squad player with whatever upside to be cultivated, being a plus.

She doesn't seem to be regarded as a technical player (particularly when placed against the players with whom she would be competing for time), but she clearly has the goods to function in a structured and organized environment, and to contribute to a product over time. The coach who brought her in is still there ... so it's unlikely a question of being out of favor (if anything, he's been consistent in how she has been used ... and she probably knew that going in). He certainly has recruited "around her".

The other thing is that Stanford has midfielders who probably offer defensive coverage ... possibly further restricting her time on the field.

In sum, she's been in a good training environment. Easy conversation to be had Waldrum to Ratcliffe to ascertain her particulars.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2014, 10:40:21 AM »
I decided to delve a bit further. Consistent with my comments above, I can now confirm that Lauren Schmidt was a recruited/preferred walk-on at Stanford. This explains her career trajectory substantially. And, she was the only defender in her recruiting class ... also, somewhat consistent with the MF defensive coverage thought above.

Anyway ...

Her collegiate goal notched v. Colorado on October 16, 2014:
https://twitter.com/StanfordWSoccer/status/522984911884394498

She also contributed a couple assists v. Oregon State on Senior Night.
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Senior midfielder Lauren Schmidt, who scored her first career goal against Colorado, added two more points to her name, recording her first assist on the year in just the third minute and adding another in the 45th minute on a beautiful cross from the right side to reward a streaking senior midfielder Lo’eau LaBonta arriving directly between Oregon State’s center backs.

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T&T, Ecuador tickets out tomorrow
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2014, 02:11:44 PM »
T&T, Ecuador tickets out tomorrow
Published: Sunday, November 16, 2014 (T&T Guardian)


From tomorrow morning, football fans across the nation can purchase their tickets for T&T’s crucial second leg clash against Ecuador in the ultimate decider for a spot at next year’s Fifa Women’s World Cup.
The match will be played on December 2 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port-of-Spain, from 6 pm.

Tickets are priced at $100 for the uncovered section and $200 for the covered section. Children Under the age of 12 years may enter free of charge.
Ticket outlets include Trotter’s Restaurant (Maraval Road), Skinner Park (San Fernando), The Fan Club, Ramsighn’s Sorting Goods, Kenny’s Sports Centre, All Out, Econo Supermarket and Heritage Sport in Tobago.
Remaining tickets will be on sale at the match venue on the day of the match. Gates open at 3 pm.

Fans are asked to wear red in support of the “Women Soca Warriors” who will be seeking their first ever spot at a Fifa Women’s World Cup.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2014, 02:29:53 PM »
Ah ready- I will be there

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 04:45:06 PM »
About 45 minutes ago, our opponents were in the weightroom preparing for us.

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2014, 05:32:00 AM »
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2014, 12:37:42 PM »
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Horrible choice of music. Now when we need to have a patriotic backdrop to an advert for a historic Women Soca Warriors World Cup qualification game we get country and western music rather than Soca.

Sometimes you just have to shake your head at the lack of patriotic thinking that goes into producing some of the things we do to promote our country and inspire patriotism.
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014, 05:17:00 PM »
90 minutes away from glory
By Andre Baptiste (T&T Guardian)


The senior women’s footballers are possibly 90 minutes away from history, and most importantly ensuring that Christmas will be one of the best for those of us who love sport and country.

On December 2, at 6 pm, our Soca Warriors women’s team face Ecuador at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, with the winner moving on to the Women’s World Cup Finals in Canada in June 2015.

Already, there is the expectation and belief that this country, which has disappointed sportsmen and women in the past, will collectively rise to the occasion and pack the stadium to capacity upwards of 25,000.

Ecuador played the first leg of this match in a stadium with around 16,000 supporters, so what one may ask will incentivise the population of this country to throw their fate behind the team.

We only need to look inwardly and discuss what we see. This country’s image has suffered over the years mainly because of off the field behavior and questionable monetary transactions, not least—Life Sports and E Beam, for which many have still to be held accountable.

T&T needs something to hold on to, something or in this case someone, or some group that make us all smile again because smiling is healthy and suggest less stress.

In captain Maylee Attin-Johnson’s team, I have noticed a desire and determination that would appear to have no boundaries, and no hurdles that are too steep.

This young lady reminds me of the former England captain Byran Robson, who was called Captain Marvel, because he never gave up and would run from penalty box to penalty box at tremendous speed.

Against Mexico, when it seemed certain that she would have to be replaced after 35 minutes, Attin-Johnson said “No” and changed her gear and returned to play, not only for 90 minutes, but lasted until 120 minutes. This sort of selfless act can only inspire a team, and it should be utilised to inspire a nation into what true leadership means and what representing your country means.

These brave, disciplined, focused and skillful young ladies have not only found a leader in Attin-Johnson, but also found a mentor in coach Randy Waldrum and full credit has to go to Lincoln “Tiger” Phillips for this.

Waldrum is a man on a mission.

Like most of our coaches, he has not been paid and is working for free. When we interviewed him after the first leg in Ecuador, his opening remarks to the FIFA media stood out.

When asked if he was willing to be interviewed again by the T&T media, he quickly replied: “Yes, they are from home. They are from home; I will talk to them,”

Home for Waldrum was not Dallas where he coaches, but rather our beautiful twin island republic of T&T.

It is this sort of charisma that can inspire others and listening to him and speaking with members of the team, it is easy to understand why some of these players would “give their all for this coach.”

However in a country, such as ours, where there always seems to be efforts to destroy, let us all attempt to stay positive and support these young ladies. Unfortunately, even though it is women’s football, there are several men with large egos involved, each believing that their contribution, their involvement may have been forgotten. This is a time, when we must believe that the entire picture should be analysed and not merely a specific event. We cannot afford any disruption to the program that is moments away from allowing us to qualify.

And while dissension is common in sports, one should not fuel such to achieve personal points at the expense of the young ladies, because there are many who will find this very discomforting and perhaps may turn away their support and in the future not trust such individuals.

There is no doubt that president of the Football Association, Raymond Tim Kee, is not popular and whether that is because of his personality or competence, there are too many unanswered questions which naturally allows football to become unsettled.

Despite all of this, we need to fill that Stadium with a sea of red as the word is that Ecuador will travel with a contingent of 100 supporters, much more than the magnificent 15 that attended in Quito on November 8.

Red is the colour for that day. Everyone should wear “red,” even in your office. It must be a rule, and we must ensure it is done.

I  hope that those sections of the media that ignore women’s football at the expense of men’s football apologise and restore some sort of equity to the coverage.

Let us unite and believe. We must forget old talk, ticket prices, the coach, the Association, Tim Kee, the time of the match and be at the Hasely Crawford Stadium for the 6pm kick off. These are moments in time that do not necessarily come around frequently, so let us all be part of the celebration, and be part of the joy of sports.

Be there to support, our players: Maylee Attin-Johnson (captain), Kimika Forbes ( goalkeeper), Liana Hinds, Lauryn Hutchinson, Arin King, Rhea Belgrave, Patrice Superville, Brianna Ryce, Karyn Forbes, Ayana Russell, Dernelle Mascall, Janine Francois, Mariah Shade, Ahkeela Mollon, Kennya Cordner, Tasha St Louis, Tinesha  Palmer, Khadira Debesette, Anique Walker, Sandra Baron, Afiyah Matthias, Khadisha Debesette, Jasmine Sampson.
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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2014, 02:59:27 AM »
Advertising opportunities for companies on Dec 2.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Local businesses and corporate bodies can support the upcoming Fifa Women’s World Cup qualifier between T&T and Ecuador by purchasing advertising field boards for the encounter at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on December 2.

 The field boards which are placed on the sidelines and behind the goals on the playing pitch will offer the opportunity for businesses to have a visual branding presence at the venue and on screen as the match will be broadcasted live in Ecuador and several South and Central American countries.

Because of the huge significance of the match with the winner qualifying for the 2015 Fifa Women’s World Cup, the game will also be shown on several television stations and sports show globally either delayed or via highlights package.

Income generated through field board sales will go towards the development of the national women’s teams as well as other national teams and development programmes.  Interested parties can get more information by contacting the TTFA offices at 623-9500, 681-5429 or 772 0248.

Tickets are currently on sale for the big match at $200 covered, $100 uncovered and kids under 12 free in the uncovered section. Kick off is at 6 pm.

« Last Edit: November 20, 2014, 03:02:40 AM by Flex »
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Offline Sando prince

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2014, 09:31:45 AM »
Advertising opportunities for companies on Dec 2.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Local businesses and corporate bodies can support the upcoming Fifa Women’s World Cup qualifier between T&T and Ecuador by purchasing advertising field boards for the encounter at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on December 2.

 The field boards which are placed on the sidelines and behind the goals on the playing pitch will offer the opportunity for businesses to have a visual branding presence at the venue and on screen as the match will be broadcasted live in Ecuador and several South and Central American countries.


This is good! I expect businesses to take advantage of the opportunity

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Re: Thread for the T&T WNT vs Ecuador WNT Game (02-Dec-2014)
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2014, 11:56:37 AM »
is it fuentes putting these promos together by himself? i think there shud b at least one more person doing it with him to say 'ay, yuh on shit!'

 

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