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Shock/revelation of the meet:South African Van Niekerk defeats Kirani James in 43.96 to 44.17 for a new African record and the 2nd non-American under 44.00
Shelly Ann is way too strong. She didn't fade at all... She won't be beaten without a mishap. The only person who can beat her is MLA at full strength with a decent start
Quote from: Trini1 on July 04, 2015, 09:31:59 PMShelly Ann is way too strong. She didn't fade at all... She won't be beaten without a mishap. The only person who can beat her is MLA at full strength with a decent start We need to give MLA a chance to heal properly from her grade II hamstring injury and then to work on improving her slow starts and running technique. Hopefully MLA's weaknesses will be corrected before Rio 2016 and if they are then its hell for everyone who wants to keep her off the medal podium. MLA's current running technique which has plenty room for improvement could possibly be leading to her frequent injuries whenever she starts running fast (sub-11 times). I am only speculating here but it will explain her tendency to get injured whenever she starts running very fast. If MLA's current coach cannot help to improve MLA's starts and running technique to get her to perform at the elite level without being so injury prone then maybe MLA should consider giving Ato (who already has Khalifa St Fort in his camp) a call to help work on her weaknesses. Let's not get ahead of ourselves due to patriotism. MLA is yet to run a 10.7x in her career so how is she going to be more of a threat to a Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce at her best (in 10.7x form) than some of the other elite female sprinters who have run faster than MLA's 10.85 PB on a number of occasions?PS:In fact I would love to see Kai Selvon, Kamaria Durant, Reyare Thomas and Michelle-Lee Ahye all join Ato's camp as I think he can get them all down to consistent sub-11 form after working with them long enough but the question is does Ato have the time to work with so many of our female sprinters given his busy schedule?Thinking about it I can also see some of our young male sprinters benefiting from working with Ato as he will improve their running techniques and get them to run more 200's to help improve their speed endurance.
Quote from: Socapro on July 05, 2015, 06:37:14 AMQuote from: Trini1 on July 04, 2015, 09:31:59 PMShelly Ann is way too strong. She didn't fade at all... She won't be beaten without a mishap. The only person who can beat her is MLA at full strength with a decent start We need to give MLA a chance to heal properly from her grade II hamstring injury and then to work on improving her slow starts and running technique. Hopefully MLA's weaknesses will be corrected before Rio 2016 and if they are then its hell for everyone who wants to keep her off the medal podium. MLA's current running technique which has plenty room for improvement could possibly be leading to her frequent injuries whenever she starts running fast (sub-11 times). I am only speculating here but it will explain her tendency to get injured whenever she starts running very fast. If MLA's current coach cannot help to improve MLA's starts and running technique to get her to perform at the elite level without being so injury prone then maybe MLA should consider giving Ato (who already has Khalifa St Fort in his camp) a call to help work on her weaknesses. Let's not get ahead of ourselves due to patriotism. MLA is yet to run a 10.7x in her career so how is she going to be more of a threat to a Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce at her best (in 10.7x form) than some of the other elite female sprinters who have run faster than MLA's 10.85 PB on a number of occasions?PS:In fact I would love to see Kai Selvon, Kamaria Durant, Reyare Thomas and Michelle-Lee Ahye all join Ato's camp as I think he can get them all down to consistent sub-11 form after working with them long enough but the question is does Ato have the time to work with so many of our female sprinters given his busy schedule?Thinking about it I can also see some of our young male sprinters benefiting from working with Ato as he will improve their running techniques and get them to run more 200's to help improve their speed endurance.I agree Soca. I'm all for MLA sitting out the rest of the season or at MOST running as part of the relay but that is it! The main priority is her health and being healthy for the Olympics.Like you say it could well be improper technique which leads to these injuries and it was my hope that her coach would deal with that but it just seems as though he helped increase strength and speed without focus on technique. I know she hasn't been in 10.7 territory so I may be very far ahead of myself but running 10.85 with a semi-ok( yes semi-ok) start and improper technique tells me she can be there once those things are amended.
Quote from: Trini1 on July 05, 2015, 10:13:47 AMQuote from: Socapro on July 05, 2015, 06:37:14 AMQuote from: Trini1 on July 04, 2015, 09:31:59 PMShelly Ann is way too strong. She didn't fade at all... She won't be beaten without a mishap. The only person who can beat her is MLA at full strength with a decent start We need to give MLA a chance to heal properly from her grade II hamstring injury and then to work on improving her slow starts and running technique. Hopefully MLA's weaknesses will be corrected before Rio 2016 and if they are then its hell for everyone who wants to keep her off the medal podium. MLA's current running technique which has plenty room for improvement could possibly be leading to her frequent injuries whenever she starts running fast (sub-11 times). I am only speculating here but it will explain her tendency to get injured whenever she starts running very fast. If MLA's current coach cannot help to improve MLA's starts and running technique to get her to perform at the elite level without being so injury prone then maybe MLA should consider giving Ato (who already has Khalifa St Fort in his camp) a call to help work on her weaknesses. Let's not get ahead of ourselves due to patriotism. MLA is yet to run a 10.7x in her career so how is she going to be more of a threat to a Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce at her best (in 10.7x form) than some of the other elite female sprinters who have run faster than MLA's 10.85 PB on a number of occasions?PS:In fact I would love to see Kai Selvon, Kamaria Durant, Reyare Thomas and Michelle-Lee Ahye all join Ato's camp as I think he can get them all down to consistent sub-11 form after working with them long enough but the question is does Ato have the time to work with so many of our female sprinters given his busy schedule?Thinking about it I can also see some of our young male sprinters benefiting from working with Ato as he will improve their running techniques and get them to run more 200's to help improve their speed endurance.I agree Soca. I'm all for MLA sitting out the rest of the season or at MOST running as part of the relay but that is it! The main priority is her health and being healthy for the Olympics.Like you say it could well be improper technique which leads to these injuries and it was my hope that her coach would deal with that but it just seems as though he helped increase strength and speed without focus on technique. I know she hasn't been in 10.7 territory so I may be very far ahead of myself but running 10.85 with a semi-ok( yes semi-ok) start and improper technique tells me she can be there once those things are amended. I agree. MLA at most should only do the relay if she is ready to go for Beijing. There is no doubt in my mind that if MLA was 100%, she would have run 10.7x by now. On another note, Van Neikerk? Wow. I will like to see Cedenio's and Lendore's response to that.
Quote from: gawd on pitch on July 05, 2015, 11:33:29 AMQuote from: Trini1 on July 05, 2015, 10:13:47 AMQuote from: Socapro on July 05, 2015, 06:37:14 AMQuote from: Trini1 on July 04, 2015, 09:31:59 PMShelly Ann is way too strong. She didn't fade at all... She won't be beaten without a mishap. The only person who can beat her is MLA at full strength with a decent start We need to give MLA a chance to heal properly from her grade II hamstring injury and then to work on improving her slow starts and running technique. Hopefully MLA's weaknesses will be corrected before Rio 2016 and if they are then its hell for everyone who wants to keep her off the medal podium. MLA's current running technique which has plenty room for improvement could possibly be leading to her frequent injuries whenever she starts running fast (sub-11 times). I am only speculating here but it will explain her tendency to get injured whenever she starts running very fast. If MLA's current coach cannot help to improve MLA's starts and running technique to get her to perform at the elite level without being so injury prone then maybe MLA should consider giving Ato (who already has Khalifa St Fort in his camp) a call to help work on her weaknesses. Let's not get ahead of ourselves due to patriotism. MLA is yet to run a 10.7x in her career so how is she going to be more of a threat to a Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce at her best (in 10.7x form) than some of the other elite female sprinters who have run faster than MLA's 10.85 PB on a number of occasions?PS:In fact I would love to see Kai Selvon, Kamaria Durant, Reyare Thomas and Michelle-Lee Ahye all join Ato's camp as I think he can get them all down to consistent sub-11 form after working with them long enough but the question is does Ato have the time to work with so many of our female sprinters given his busy schedule?Thinking about it I can also see some of our young male sprinters benefiting from working with Ato as he will improve their running techniques and get them to run more 200's to help improve their speed endurance.I agree Soca. I'm all for MLA sitting out the rest of the season or at MOST running as part of the relay but that is it! The main priority is her health and being healthy for the Olympics.Like you say it could well be improper technique which leads to these injuries and it was my hope that her coach would deal with that but it just seems as though he helped increase strength and speed without focus on technique. I know she hasn't been in 10.7 territory so I may be very far ahead of myself but running 10.85 with a semi-ok( yes semi-ok) start and improper technique tells me she can be there once those things are amended. I agree. MLA at most should only do the relay if she is ready to go for Beijing. There is no doubt in my mind that if MLA was 100%, she would have run 10.7x by now. On another note, Van Neikerk? Wow. I will like to see Cedenio's and Lendore's response to that.Lendore is recovering from injury my friend so let’s not put extra pressure on him at this point which will only result in him re-injuring himself.As for Cedenio, Van Neikerk already dusted him & the rest of the field out at the New York DL Meet a couple weeks ago (Wayde van Niekerk 44.24 NR wins 400m Final NY Diamond League 2015:http://rutube.ru/video/619ac5a9f23c6e080e54d674e367c02c) so let’s give Van Neikerk his due respect at this point. Van Neikerk is now justly rated at no.2 in the world just behind Kirani James because he has proven himself to be the no.2 400m man right now. In fact he probably just made Kirani realise that his main worry for World Champs is not defending champion LaShawn Merritt but Wayde van Niekerk.Machel Cedenio just needs to put his head down and train as hard as possible with the hope that he keeps improving and once he does that then he will eventually be able to beat anyone. Getting on the podium at Rio 2016 Olympics should be Cedenio's main goal right now especially if he is not selected to compete in the individual 400m in Beijing due to his lane violation at T&T Trials. Cedenio's short-term goal should be helping our 4x4 relay team to medal in Beijing if he is selected to the relay squad which seems almost certain at this point unlike his selection to run the individual 400m in Beijing which still hangs in the balance depending on if Jarrin Solomon runs the individual 400m WC qualification standard of 45.50 or better before the World Champs Team is announced.
