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« on: April 27, 2015, 02:12:21 PM »
Anyone following the protests in Baltimore resulting from the death of Freddy Gray in the custody of BPD?
Check out Twitter link goes to the #.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2015, 03:54:26 PM »
Once those fools or paid instigators started with their dotishness, I switched off!!!. Let the same police bust dey friggin head!!!

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2015, 04:36:51 PM »
What paid instigators?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 06:50:41 PM »
Once those fools or paid instigators started with their dotishness, I switched off!!!. Let the same police bust dey friggin head!!!

I don't know whether they're paid or not... but clearly there are professional agitators and outright rank criminals using the protests for cover.  If you ask me there never should have been protests in the first place.

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 08:16:17 PM »
Is the rioting necessary?

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2015, 11:31:50 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2015, 11:53:34 PM »
They should be no protest in the first place.  Then what should there be?

Is the rioting necessary? Then what is necessary?

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Re: Baltimore, MD
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2015, 04:45:51 AM »
Would love to view/hear a Kurt Schmoke interview on this topic.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2015, 09:35:26 AM »
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Moreover, there was no shortage of respected black leaders in Baltimore calling for restraint, from the funeral of Freddie Gray early in the day through the early evening.

"The people I saw on the street ignored the pleas of the Gray family," said Kurt L. Schmoke, president of the University of Baltimore and former Baltimore mayor. "Those who participated were opportunists who took advantage of a defensive and reactive posture that they knew our police department had to assume."

Many local leaders accepted the president's posture of restraint and remained focused on the issue of police abuse.

"The federal government can be a partner with local government on this issue, but the federal government can't lead the effort,"Schmoke said. He said the federal U.S. attorneys and civil rights division of the Justice Department could prosecute cases of police violence, and the federal mediation service could bring warring segments of the community together.

But, he added, "it's local community leaders that have to resolve this problem through better recruiting and training of police officers and by hiring chiefs of police who will recruit officers in the spirit of service, not the spirit of adventure."

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2015, 09:37:20 AM »
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lol/ Oh Lawd, they should put this kid on suicide watch for reals. major embarrasment.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 09:46:35 AM »
They should be no protest in the first place.  Then what should there be?

Is the rioting necessary? Then what is necessary?


I agree dude. Usually I all for order and stuff, but that is just the pent up frustration for every time"that man" pull me over and ruff me up for no reason other than the color of my skin...no more!! no more business as usual kill man in back of squad car and answer to nobody. pelt a stone for me they partner. (don't burn down a building).

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2015, 01:45:30 PM »
The BPD said they had gotten credible info (trolling twitter for the most part) that the HS kids made a Flyer  :rotfl: announcing that they were going to Purge the mall.  ::)

Because as we know, HS kids make flyers to invite each other to events.

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I was at a stoplight in front of Frederick Douglass High School and directly across from Mondawmin Mall. It was exactly 3 p.m. The mall was on lockdown. There were police helicopters flying overhead. The riot police were already at the bus stop on the other side of the mall, turning buses that transport the students away, not allowing students to board.They were waiting for the kids. As I sat at the intersection of Gwynns Falls, I saw several police cars arriving at the scene. I saw the armored police vehicle arrive. Those kids were set up, they were treated like criminals before the first brick was thrown.

Bear these facts in mind too, every day hundreds of kids leave Frederick Douglass and walk across the street and through the mall to catch the buses on the far side of the mall. Their school releases at about 2:25.

I just wish people could recognize how insane this would be if their kids were released from school to buzzing police helicopters, police in riot gear, and their child being prevented from taking transportation home. It would be a national outrage.

Meg Gibson, a Baltimore City school teacher at Belmont Elementary School, via Facebook and Facebook chat.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2015, 01:45:58 PM »
They should be no protest in the first place.  Then what should there be?

Is the rioting necessary? Then what is necessary?



The purpose of protesting is largely two-fold, to bring attention to an untenable situation; and to spur the authorities into action to address the concerns complained about.  There was nation-wide media attention to not only the death of Freddie Gray, but the larger issue of police violence prior to the riots, so that goal was already met.  Secondly, the Mayor and Police Chief came out from early and condemned what happened and promised an investigation.  Six policemen involved were suspended and an inquiry was begun.  Protesting served no substantial purpose at that point... it wasn't  going to make them investigate any faster, and it didn't necessarily ensure a fairer more impartial investigation because the justice department was already involved as well.  So again, protesting at that point was unnecessary.

There has to be a cost benefit analysis the benefits to be derived from the protests were far outweighed by the potential negatives... which is to say the involvement of outside agitators and covert criminals.  This is precisely what happened, not with professional agitators, but with criminals using the cover provided by the protests to further their own purposes.   I hate that some keep trying to conflate the violence with the larger protest movement. The riots are not an off-shoot of the protests, not a continuation, not a phase, and not an escalation of the protest. The riots and looting are completely incidental to the protest, they represent the utter usurpation of peaceful protest for criminal purposes.

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2015, 01:50:38 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2015, 02:00:36 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2015, 02:38:11 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2015, 08:12:48 PM »
De mayor getting blasted for some remarks she make. Good ting she black or it would be much worse. CoP black too.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2015, 02:09:31 PM »


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Was the Baltimore Mom Abusive After Seeing Son Throwing Rocks at Cops

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Watch the video below of this Baltimore mom who runs into the riots to find her son and drag him out of the trouble. Baltimore police are grateful, and are posting to social media asking other parents to do the same. But some are scratching their heads at her level of violence!
Kids often do things to infuriate us. That doesn’t give us a pass to scream, swear and slap them. But how embarrassed would you be if you were watching in shock and horror as teenagers threw rocks at police and realized one of them was your son?!
What do you think? Did she do right, or did she go too far?

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Re: Baltimore, MD
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2015, 02:40:38 PM »
What if he had been hit by a brick accidentally and died?

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2015, 03:08:26 PM »
White ppl not accustomed to licks so they must wonder.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2015, 05:01:58 PM »
Second day was essentially a non-event. So was this protest really about injustice and/or anger? Dat yute getting licks from de mother say plenty of idleness in dat protest.

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2015, 08:45:10 AM »
so next thing dey need is cameras inside de back of dese vans....

yep. Because they saying now, that another prisoner who  was also  in the van,  said that he was acting irrational. So who would you belief? The police, a prisoner probably trying save his skin or pix from a camera.


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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2015, 09:22:06 AM »
Who severs their own spine and crush their throat?


That same prisoner initial statement was the Gray was mainly quiet in the back of the van.
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2015, 09:27:49 AM »
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2015, 10:51:13 AM »
so next thing dey need is cameras inside de back of dese vans....

yep. Because they saying now, that another prisoner who  was also  in the van,  said that he was acting irrational. So who would you belief? The police, a prisoner probably trying save his skin or pix from a camera.



de other 20+ times de police arrest freddie gray, he was fine.

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2015, 01:37:47 PM »
so next thing dey need is cameras inside de back of dese vans....

yep. Because they saying now, that another prisoner who  was also  in the van,  said that he was acting irrational. So who would you belief? The police, a prisoner probably trying save his skin or pix from a camera.



de other 20+ times de police arrest freddie gray, he was fine.

Guess Freddie Gray lying then.
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2015, 10:32:02 AM »
6 Baltimore Police Officers Charged, 1 With Second-Degree Murder, in Freddie Gray’s Death

POSTED 4:51 AM, MAY 1, 2015, BY CNN WIRE, UPDATED AT 09:14AM, MAY 1, 2015

Latest developments:


Freddie Gray was in perfect health until police chased and tackled him in Baltimore April 12, 2015, his lawyer said. Less than an hour later, he was on his way to a trauma clinic with a spinal injury, where he fell into a coma. (Credit: Family of Freddie Gray via CNN)
• In an open letter to Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, the city police union’s president said that “none of the officers involved are responsible for the death of (Freddie) Gray.”

• “To the contrary, at all times, each of the officers diligently balanced their obligations to protect Mr. Gray and discharge their duties to protect the public,” wrote Baltimore City Fraternal Order of Police President Gene Ryan.

• Ryan asked in the letter, which came out just before Mosby announced that six officers face charges in Gray’s death, that a special independent prosecutor be appointed to look into the case.

Full story:

Baltimore’s prosecutor brought charges Friday against six police officers in the death of Freddie Gray, saying he suffered “a severe and critical neck injury” as a result of being placed “handcuffed, shackled by his feet and unrestrained” inside a police van.

Read the full list of charges filed against six Baltimore police officers.

The most serious charge: second-degree depraved-heart murder for the driver of the van, Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr.

“To the people of Baltimore and demonstrators across America, I heard your call for ‘No Justice, No peace,’ ” Baltimore City State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby said. “Your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man.”

In addition to the charges against Goodson, another officer was charged Friday with several counts, including manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter. Two other officers face charges including including involuntary manslaughter. An additional two officers are charged with several counts, including second-degree assault.

Warrants have been issued for the officers’ arrests. The officers are expected to be arraigned Friday, according to a source with knowledge of the proceedings.

Mosby’s announcement brought cheers from onlookers at her news conference. Motorists in Baltimore honked horns and support exploded online.

“Let me tell you I just sat and watched Marilyn Mosby speak and as she announced everything I shed a tear..someone finally got it right,” Twitter user TaviBabi wrote.

Prior to the announcement, protesters had planned at least four rallies in Baltimore to express their frustration with what they said was a slow pace of the investigation.

Other demonstrations were scheduled in Chicago, New York, Seattle, Dallas, San Francisco and Oakland, California.

The mother of Trayvon Martin, the African-American youth killed in 2012 by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, plans to attend one of the Baltimore rallies, the Rev. Jamal Bryant of Baltimore’s Empowerment Temple said in a tweet.

Authorities pleaded for patience Thursday after police said they’d finished their investigation, but wouldn’t publicly release their findings. Police turned their files over to prosecutors.

“We ask for the public to remain patient and peaceful and to trust the process of the justice system,” Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby said Thursday.

For the most part, that patience held Thursday night. Marches were peaceful in Baltimore, although police in Philadelphia clashed with protesters as officers tried to prevent them from blocking a highway.

Police statement raises more questions

While the police investigation is complete, Mosby’s office said her office will conduct its own inquiry.

“We are not relying solely on their findings, but rather the facts that we have gathered and verified,” she said.

On Friday, the state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner handed over the autopsy report to Mosby’s office, a source in the office told CNN. The report’s findings have not been made public.

Who is Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby?

In the meantime, the mystery of how the 25-year-old died has only grown more complex.

Police revealed Thursday a transport van carrying Gray made an additional stop after his arrest April 12. Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said the stop was recorded by a privately owned video camera, arousing suspicion among protesters who wondered why it was not previously mentioned.

The video belonged to shop owner Hwang Jung, who said police copied the footage. The original was lost when his store was subsequently looted, he said.

The new stop, Davis said, came between the first and second stops. Before it surfaced, police had spoken of three stops before arriving at the police precinct — one to put leg irons on Gray, a second “to deal with Mr. Gray,” and a third to pick up an additional prisoner.

That second stop remains under investigation.

Mosby did expand on how Gray may have died. “The manner of death deemed a homicide by the Maryland state medical examiner is believed to be the result of a fatal injury that occurred while Mr. Gray was unrestrained by a seat belt in the custody of the Baltimore Police Department wagon,” she said.

Police have said previously that Gray had not been properly fastened into the van, a violation of department policy.

Was it in the van?

An earlier report by CNN affiliate WJLA-TV in Washington, said Gray’s injuries could have happened in the van. The police investigation did not find he died from injuries caused during his arrest, the station reported, citing “multiple law enforcement sources briefed on the police findings.”

Instead, the station reported investigators believe Gray slammed into part of the police van, apparently breaking his neck. A head injury matches up to a bolt in the van, the station reported without mentioning how the injury may have happened.

http://ktla.com/2015/05/01/may-day-marches-expected-in-baltimore-as-debate-over-where-freddie-gray-was-fatally-injured-continues/
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2015, 11:04:12 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2015, 12:16:52 PM »
White ppl not accustomed to licks so they must wonder.

Is only timeout they familiar with.

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