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Re: Fire Raymond Tim Kee Thread.
« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2015, 12:59:12 AM »
For me its ruining the game Deeks, Look at ticket prices in the uk the games gone mad.

It's ok having rich backers but with no fans buying shirt, tickets, etc do you think these people would stick around? If you look at these backers in the uk they have engaged with the fans, do a lot in the communities and have links to junior football.

Trinidad produces some great footballers, with the right guidance these players can reach the top but it needs the people at the top to pull in the same direction to ensure that the future of football has solid foundations on which it can build upon.
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Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #91 on: November 11, 2015, 06:01:10 PM »
Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
Sunshine Newspapers Reports.


TTFA current President Raymond Tim Kee needs to clear the air and tell the national community whether the firing of the General Secretary of TTFA has anything to do with his refusal to pay his son a whopping $15,000.00 USD to build a website for the TTFA.

Apart from all the legal brouhaha and arguments concerning whether or not he has the right to terminate the General Secretary, Tim Kee needs to be open about the real reasons why he wants Phillips to go.

Sunshine learned that Tim Kee contracted his son, Kareem Tim Kee to build a website for the TTFA. As far as members close to the TTFA are concerned, no one is aware of the process or procedure that was used to retain the services of Tim Kee’s son.

No one knew about the contractual arrangements until invoices began appearing from Kareem’s company, requesting payment for work done. This was no small amount for a sporting organization that is strapped for cash.

Invoices in the sum of $6,000.00USD, $1,500.00 USD and $7,500.00 USD were submitted for payment and it is said that President Tim Kee began applying pressure on General Secretary Sheldon Phillips to have his son paid for his services.

His son was paid $50,000.00 TTD before Sunshine understands that the General Secretary indicated that he was not prepared to sign off for any other payment given the lack of funds within the Association.

Sunshine was told that a number of coaches are still to be paid and TTFA still has outstanding payments for a number of players, yet the President’s sole interest was not in the payment to these stakeholders but to his son for building a website for which there is no contractual arrangement.

Sunshine understands that the General Secretary felt that the President had his priorities misplaced and expressed to him that seeking his son’s benefit created a conflict of interest.It was at this juncture that the relationship be-tween the two went south.

Furthermore, the Sunshine was told that at this juncture with the national team getting ready to compete for a spot in the 2020 World Cup to be held in Russia, the TTFA is under threat of being suspended from international competition.

According to correspondence dated 17 March 2015, which was sent by FIFA to the TTFA, the Association was warned to settle the debt of some $202,125.00 USD which includes interest up to 3 March 2015.

This is an outstanding sum that is owed to Mr. Even Pellerud, the for-mer national coach for the Women’s U-17 team.

The consequences are so severe that FIFA has threatened that if payment to Pellerud was not made by 10 July 2015 and a copy of the proof of payment was not sent to FIFA by the same date then the case of Pellerud vs the TTFA would be sent to the Disciplinary Committee of FIFA.

It is informative to note that to date no payment has been made and, in an effort to assist the TTFA and not to suspend them from the World Cup competition FIFA has decided to deduct the debt from the $250,000.00 USD FIFA annual stipend to the TTFA.

Anyone close to football understands that once the TTFA indebtedness had reached the FIFA Disciplinary Committee harsher sanctions could have been imposed.

But as far as Tim Kee is concerned, it seems like the fate of the TTFA was of little or no consequence; his main interest was to ensure that his son Kareem got paid.

So while Coach Hart and the national team are in training to bring glory to Trinidad and Tobago, the President of the TTFA was more concerned with putting money into his son’s pocket.

This is what Sunshine was told is the real reason behind the current impasse between the President and the General Secretary of the TTFA.

The question that keeps lingering though is whether Tim Kee has the authority to terminate the services of his General Secretary?

Or is he blinded by other factors that have pushed him to make a plethora of errors into seeking to terminate the services of Phillips?

Persons of longstanding within the TTFA believes that Tim Kee does not have the power or authority to fire the General Secretary.

They state that based on the TTFA Constitution, both the old and new ver-sions, the authority to dis-miss a General Secretary is the remit of the Executive Committee.

One senior executive member noted that under the Section: “Duties/Responsibilities of the President” the wording is not just similar but identical.

Article 23.3 of the previous constitution and Article 39.3 of the present constitution state that “. . .only the President may propose the appointment or dismissal of the General Secretary.

”In Article 30.9 under the heading “Powers of the Executive Committee” again the Constitution is clear that “the Executive Committee shall appoint or dismiss the General Secretary on the proposal of the President.”

In all three cases the operative word is “propose” and the meaning seem to have somehow been lost to Tim Kee since the word con-notes “to offer and suggest for consideration” some-thing that is lacking in the actions of the President.

Clearly based on the Constitution, Tim Kee has arrogated unto himself power that he does not have and rather than taking a proposal to the Executive Committee, Tim Kee proceeded to terminate the service of the General Secretary of the TTFA.

Even if Tim Kee had legitimate grounds to do so, the most he can do is pro-pose.It is left up to the Executive Committee to deter-mine whether or not it sup-ports Tim Kee’s proposal and terminate the tenure of Phillips or whether they support the actions of Phil-lips in which case Tim Kee needs to resign because he has lost the confidence of his executive.

That Phillips to date has not been reinstated has raised serious concerns because one can only hope that the installation of Paula Chester-Cumberbatch, Assistant Secretary, Administration to the post of Ag General Secretary of the TTFA was not simply to ensure that Kareem Tim Kee gets paid. Such an action should result in the immediate suspension of the President who should be debarred from contesting the elections on November 29, 2015.

One can only hope that the way Tim Kee manages the TTFA is not the same way the Office of the Mayor is managed because under the PNM it is this type of nepotism and cronyism that the leader of the party promised to get rid of when he ascended into power.

It is difficult to imagine Tim Kee as a Jekyll and Hyde where in the seat of the Mayor he displays one kind of personality while as the President of the TTFA another kind is displayed.

Maybe football needs to take a closer look at Tim Kee the man who valorized Jeffrey Webb who is now embroiled in the type of controversy that Tim Kee feigned to shun.

The lessons, football has learned with Tim Kee as President, have been extremely difficult and many hope that his actions against Phillips would now become the basis for his withdrawal as a candidate for the post of President.

Maybe that is too much to ask but when personal interests take precedence over national interest then the decent thing for anyone to do is to resign and give your office to one who puts country first and self after. The time has come for Tim Kee to go so that football can once again breathe freely.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #92 on: November 11, 2015, 06:03:27 PM »
Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #93 on: November 11, 2015, 06:04:11 PM »
Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?

Correct !!!!

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #94 on: November 11, 2015, 06:08:44 PM »
^ well I for one would rather see this news story investigated then published by one of TnT mainstream newspapers instead of a newspaper owned by a man who does not think highly of Tim Kee. Regardless how anyone feel about Tim Kee I am sure right minded people would think along similar lines.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #95 on: November 11, 2015, 06:15:35 PM »
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2015, 06:16:04 PM »
Things really bad when you see Sheldon running news on a Jack Warner owned newspapers that no one takes seriously, its like the punch or bomb newspapers. I guess he needed an outlet that will not do much research and just publish anything.

If the allegations are right, Tim Kee really mess up a good thing he could have had.

And all the time Sheldon was down with Tim Kee secret deals (Mullien, Akeem, 500 for the entire women team, where did the 10,000 US Randy raised for them went, etc, etc) but now he got fired and decide to spill the beans.

I am glad he spilling beans, but it would be nice coming from a more trust worthy source, like SWO or the Guardian?


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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #97 on: November 11, 2015, 06:27:22 PM »
Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2015, 08:15:24 AM »
"Sunshine" understands a lot of things (so states the article). However, somewhat 'curiously', Sunshine refers to the WC as the "2020 World Cup" ... especially after all the sun shining on FIFA 2018.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #99 on: November 12, 2015, 08:36:41 AM »
This article is really piss poor and makes the story look like fake gossip. It does more harm than good.

Jack Warner really cant pay someone better to write for him with all that money he stole?

Poor Sheldon, so sad to see he has to take this route and id the story is real, I applaud him for standing up.

He should have used SWO or one of the T&T more recognized dailies.


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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #100 on: November 12, 2015, 09:02:04 AM »
This article is really piss poor and makes the story look like fake gossip. It does more harm than good.

Jack Warner really cant pay someone better to write for him with all that money he stole?

Poor Sheldon, so sad to see he has to take this route and id the story is real, I applaud him for standing up.

He should have used SWO or one of the T&T more recognized dailies.



Why are you assuming that he's the source?

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2015, 09:35:25 AM »
The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?

In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2015, 09:38:27 AM »
The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?

In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2015, 09:41:26 AM »
Interesting that so many assume that Sheldon is the source.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2015, 09:42:57 AM »
even so it is always good for nonsense like this to come to light....timkee continues to loose points
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2015, 09:43:19 AM »
The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?

In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.

Is one thing to post on a talk forum. Is another to print it as actual fact in a newspaper.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2015, 09:45:53 AM »
even so it is always good for nonsense like this to come to light....timkee continues to loose points

If it is true. Remember, there are still members of the executive who are loyal to Jack.
Remember also that we've criticised Lasana for better articles than this.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2015, 09:48:59 AM »
Echoing a few posters, I not sure why SP is automatically assumed to be the source of this article.  Furthermore I am a little confused as to why anyone would take issue with this paper releasing this story as if it would be impossible that they got legitimate information.  Forget about the forum used to dispense the info and concentrate on what is actually being said and whether it can in fact be true or not.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2015, 10:33:17 AM »
FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.

Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #109 on: November 12, 2015, 10:45:06 AM »
FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.

Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.

Lending much credence to the idea that SP is NOT the source.  I agree he is a master at manipulation and subterfuge but i believe we have enough people close enough to learn the truth (if any) behind what was said in this article.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #110 on: November 12, 2015, 11:23:44 AM »
Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #111 on: November 12, 2015, 12:05:58 PM »
Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #112 on: November 12, 2015, 12:10:56 PM »
FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.

Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.

Lending much credence to the idea that SP is NOT the source.  I agree he is a master at manipulation and subterfuge but i believe we have enough people close enough to learn the truth (if any) behind what was said in this article.

And if we go to Sheldon himself he will most likely say not true as he's already had the opportunity to address his firing in the news and said nothing of this. After that, what is the point?

Had Sheldon said anything, RTK was dead in the water.
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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2015, 01:46:11 PM »
Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!

Even if the accusation is true, there was no attempt at responsible journalism here.
If Warner is the owner of this paper, then the article is even more laughable.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2015, 02:39:28 PM »
Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #115 on: November 12, 2015, 04:20:04 PM »
Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!

Even if the accusation is true, there was no attempt at responsible journalism here.
If Warner is the owner of this paper, then the article is even more laughable.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #116 on: November 13, 2015, 12:42:20 AM »

Will TTFA current President Raymond Tim Kee (or a representative from the TTFA) be at the game today?.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #117 on: November 13, 2015, 09:29:09 AM »
Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.

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Re: Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2015, 09:13:18 PM »
Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.

Tim Kee widen the chasm on his own he didn't need help with that... and unnecessarily so too.  I have no doubt that there is some kind of truth to the allegations.  I saw the beta version of the website a year ago, fellas like Tenorsaw and Feliziano could attest to that because I shared the link with them.  The site didn't look any different than it does now, save for the functional links.  There is nothing that explains a years delay, unless it was to draw out delivery and extract additional pay.  Tim Kee real disappoint in the end.  Make it worse, the ExCo, FIFA and CONCACAF all telling him he's wrong and rather than accept that he react like an emotional backside, he's digging in his heels.  Even a broken clock like Jack gets it right every now and then, his decision-making seriously compromised.

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Re: Fire Raymond Tim Kee Thread.
« Reply #119 on: February 12, 2016, 05:56:55 AM »
Online action group to present petition, demanding mayor's resignation...
By Kim Boodram (Express).


MAYOR MUST RESIGN

WHILE its online petition seeking the resignation of Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee steamed ahead with more than 4,500 signatures by yesterday afternoon, civil action group Womantra TT is expected to march to City Hall today, petition in hand, to reinforce a call for Tim Kee to hang up his mayoral chain.

The group, which operates on social media engine Facebook, began a petition yesterday, calling for Tim Kee's resignation following comments he made on Wednesday after the discovery of the body of Japanese musician Asami Nagakiya, who was in Trinidad for Carnival. She was 30.

At the time of the discovery, the cause of Asami Nagakiya's death was unknown (she was strangled), and in a media conference later that day, Tim Kee said women had a responsibility to ensure they are not abused.

He also said he has spoken in the past about “vulgarity” and “lewdness” displayed by women during the festivities.

Womantra's event today is titled “Don't be Vulgar, Mr Tim Kee”.

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