Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)

[King Deese]

Young and upcoming star Pulisic outplayed, out impacted Levi Garcia for best young and upcoming players to watch in CONCACAF, by his performance in the USA's game against TnT.. Pulisic made a difference on the field and he maintained his focus throughout the 90 minutes he was on the field. He was definitely one of the reasons why the USA won 4 - 0.

[Adam Lake]

This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

BIG WET STEUPSSS

[sjahrain]

ffisback
Star you need to inhale,that would clear up your thought processes
Or please let me know that brand you are using,so I can avoid the madness....
Rastafari.....

[Controversial]

This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

BIG WET STEUPSSS

Shabazz talking he nonsense and just hating.. Leave him, he don't know about top level coaching...

[ffisback]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

[Sando prince]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

you must have drink some new rum called 'stupid'.

Jamaica has not scored one goal in their last four WC qualifying games and failed to win at home. So you continue to drink your 'stupid'
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[Controversial]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

The haterade you drinking in full supply ent

[g]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

circa Rene Simoes.... negative!

[lefty]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

So wait u want fire coach dat make d hex for one dat didn't......BWDMC is dis is readin here boy.... Steups be gone please.

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[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

Allyuh studyin Shabazz and he shit

[frico]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

[Adam Lake]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

  FOH

[asylumseeker]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

What were your thoughts in November following the scoreless draw at home versus the same opponent?

[Sando prince]

Levi Garcia is back home and he gave his opinion on the recent match against the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6j_SR77P-w

[Mose]

Arrow in disguise???

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

[Tallman]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.

[frico]

TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.

[gawd on pitch]

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

The rules of logic are clearly absent here. Winnie is not that bad of a coach.  But Hart is much better. Winnie only have the name/resume. We will see how long that lasts as he is on his way out.

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.

U eh ha no belly fuh this it seems.  We lay ah egg in a meaningless game as it pertained to qualification.  Get over it already!  This is very much the same team that been going toe to toe with Mexico so the talent is there and the ability is there.  All this hysteria over what, a game we had the luxury to lose?  When last was T&T in the position to lose a game without fear in qualifying for any tournament?  The house is not on fire relax!

[Storeboy]

TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.

U eh ha no belly fuh this it seems.  We lay ah egg in a meaningless game as it pertained to qualification.  Get over it already!  This is very much the same team that been going toe to toe with Mexico so the talent is there and the ability is there.  All this hysteria over what, a game we had the luxury to lose?  When last was T&T in the position to lose a game without fear in qualifying for any tournament?  The house is not on fire relax!

Well said!

[Sando prince]

So yes the game was meaningless in terms of us having qualified however the way we played was very pathetic, even our coach said the leaders disappeared and we played badly. So it is just not about losing but how we lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCk1yiam7gk&spfreload=10
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[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

So yes the game was meaningless in terms of us having qualified however the we played was very pathetic, even our coach said the leaders disappeared and we played badly. So it is just not about losing but how we lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCk1yiam7gk&spfreload=10
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I can appreciate that viewpoint.  I just find some are grossly overreacting to this.  If at the beginning of the Hex we were told you will qualify with a game in hand, most would be in disbelief because we are use to living on the edge.  Many were very worried about Guatemala despite our record against them.  We did what we needed with a game to spare.  Was the second half bad, yeah but not enough to drive me crazy.  First goal despite how much people want to pong Hyland was simply unfortunate.  If he had just swipe when it come and he miss or slice it everybody would have crucified him the same way.  Instead he controlled and tried to get it out of the box.  The US player was fortunate in that despite it bouncing off him it literally fell right at his feet.  Had they cleared that ball I don't anticipate 4-0.  There is nothing I saw in that game that cannot be rectified.  Honestly many before the game had their own opinions but with a game to spare that was an opportunity to give the lesser used players a run out.  We had nothing to lose and may at some point need them.  If only we was a set of supporters that not always forecasting gloom and doom and itching to talk about which players is shit and who brainless...

[FF]

Not too long ago in the very recent past, both Costa Rica and Honduras was also in crisis. Things change very quickly indeed

[lefty]

we lost the plot a bit in d second half and now we know that we need to reign in our young winger and help dem work on their decision making we also now know that flat out wing play is a bad idea against d states and that we are better when mix it up and keep our center mids involved......we also know dat our wingers need to pull their weight in defense and track back.......I jus thankful dat we learn all these lessons in a somewhat meaningless game. d panic button doh need pressin jus yet........and now we have ah concrete idea of where d team is as opposed to where it need to be to compete in d hex, cause it only gets tougher from here, I good with no home losses and qualification with ah game in hand......from d outside lookin in I imagine plenty people tink we overachieve given what came before

All I want now is for d prez to get good friendly dat d first team can actually be available for and we will have an even better yard stick to judge by

I see dis loss as having provided valuable data....what we do with dat data will ultimately determine what happens next.

 

[ffisback]

Not too long ago in the very recent past, both Costa Rica and Honduras was also in crisis. Things change very quickly indeed

Yes that's because they change coach's so hopefully MR Williams do the same.

[ffisback]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.

If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

[Tallman]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.

If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

Or you could say if that coach didn't get us to de Hex, we woulda never hear about Beenhakker. When Beenhakker took over, he won one game and then lost the next two. The whole point is that getting beat 4-0 by the USA, while disappointing, is not a great predictor of whether or not we will qualify for the World Cup. USA beat Costa Rica 4-0 at Copa America. Does dat mean CR doh have a good chance of getting to the World Cup?

The game is not mathematics. In football, two plus two very rarely equals four - it's usually three or five and sometimes zero.
-- Leo Beenhakker

[100% Barataria]

Tell dem yayon! 

[soccerman]

Yea preach Tallman

[ffisback]

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.

If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

Or you could say if that coach didn't get us to de Hex, we woulda never hear about Beenhakker. When Beenhakker took over, he won one game and then lost the next two. The whole point is that getting beat 4-0 by the USA, while disappointing, is not a great predictor of whether or not we will qualify for the World Cup. USA beat Costa Rica 4-0 at Copa America. Does dat mean CR doh have a good chance of getting to the World Cup?

The game is not mathematics. In football, two plus two very rarely equals four - it's usually three or five and sometimes zero.
-- Leo Beenhakker

Or you could say that both S Heart and B St Clair were lucky to get the weakest groups in the semifinal rounds in which they both struggled to get to the Hex not to encouraging ,losing 4-0 in a friendly is not important but losing 4-0 to your nemesis B or C team with your team near full strength in a WC game is damming there is no way S Heart should have a job after that game.