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Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« on: August 01, 2015, 01:51:27 AM »
It will be quite useful if we can all contribute to our Men's 4x400m Relay team being able to win a gold medal at the next major championships and to our Women's 4x400m Relay team being able to at least make the final at the next major championships.

Please post your suggestions to this thread thanks of how we can best increase chances of our Men's & Women’s 4x400m Relay Teams being able to achieve above goals.

Many thanks for your contributions and do try to keep them as positive as possible as our athletes, coaches and administrators might be reading.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 08:34:11 AM »
Nice video of the Mens 4x400m Relay Final at the 2015 IAAF World Championships in Beijing.
Here are the official splits: 1st leg by Quow 44.9; 2nd leg by Gordon 44.1; 3rd leg by Lendore 44.85; 4th leg by Cedenio 44.47. Combined time 2:58.20 for new Men's 4x4 NR.

Mens 4x400m Relay Final (2015 IAAF World Championships):
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/QuPLeifW7gE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/QuPLeifW7gE</a>

Mens 4x400m Relay Final (2015 IAAF World Championships)(Longer version):
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/xLHbZtBF5vw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/xLHbZtBF5vw</a>

And here is the after 4x4 Final interview where Lalonde Gordon told the interviewer that our team will celebrate silver with "Wine & Jam".  ;D

IAAF Official WCH 2015 Beijing - Team Trinidad and Tobago 4x400 Relay Men Final Silver
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Cb6BRO88Zr8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Cb6BRO88Zr8</a>

So lets discuss, how do we better our silver in Beijing 2015 in the Mens 4x400m Relay and go for Gold in Rio 2016.

I think for starters that all our TTO quarter-milers in the 4x4 final will need to be in 44.mid form in the flat 400m or better and we will also need at least one of our quarter milers to break the T&T national record of 44.21 in 2016 and to be near to or better than 44.00 form in the flat 400m for the 2016 season so we will have someone to contend with or hold off Merritt on the anchor leg. Once we have those ingredients in our team then we can beat the USA for gold and take our Men's national 4x4 record down to 2:56.xx territory.

I reckon that Cedenio, Lendore and Gordon are all capable of breaking the national 400m record of 44.21 in the 2016 season but Cedenio is most likely to do it first especially if he can lower his 200m PB next season and so increase his basic sprint speed over the first 200m of his 400m races.

What say you guys?!
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 03:20:46 PM »
I am sure Cedenio's team will be focusing on his speed in order to improve his PR.
Here's my take:

HEALTH OF TOP 3
Barring injuries which should be minimized, given all 3 (Cedenio, Lendore, Gordon) are all pros and not/no longer subject to NCAA rigors, and in camps with capable physios and sports science resources, I expect them all to improve their PRs in an Olympic year.

STABLE STRENGTH
The big concern is whether Rene Quow can sustain another year at a top level given his age. Both he and Solomon are in the same boat, but are crucial experienced cogs in the wheel. Should they fall off due to age/injury we have to look toward (in terms of pure 400m talent, not hurdles for now) Jereem Richards who is now at Univ. of Alabama (hopefully getting the opportunity to train with Kirani James) and other upcoming talent. Jacob St. Clair has grown some and getting stronger, gotten exposure as an alternate at last year's Panams so we have to see how his junior campaign may add to the stable. We have to look further at other potential talent - where's Carlyle Roudette?

TARGET TIME POSSIBILITIES
Doing the math, should Quow lead off in 44.5 to 44.9 (he did the latter in Beijing), Gordon run a master leg in say 43.5 (which is expected if he PRs in the flat), Lendore maintain that pace at a similar 43.5 (assuming a PR and no injury), and Cedenio in a 43-low anchor - well that could put us within the realm of possibility as fast as in the 2:54 high to 2:56 range. Whether that will be good enough for gold in a "drag race" type relay, who knows, especially with what the US, Jamaica, Bahamas, Belgium, UK, etc might bring.

TACTICS AND REALITIES
Optimal splits do not always happen even if the raw talent is there - many US teams are case in point. There are several key tactical points that need to be coached and honed in races prior to the Olympics:
1. Exchange zone passes to ensure the baton keeps moving between in the incoming and outgoing runners based on judgment and experience (Cedenio tends to stand still or bounce up and down awaiting the baton)
2. Getting your team in front so that they could run clear of the bumps and traffic that slows one's relay split (the lead-off and second legs will be crucial in ensuring this and should have decent 200m speed)
3. Maintaining pole position if you have it, or having the courage to take it (aka a sensible version of Javon Francis) - this will be Lendore's job as the US's current athletes will hit Olympic-level form, or they will most likely sprout some new talent next year
4. Running to your ability to maximize your relay split forgetting who's on your shoulder (Cedenio slowed and ran with Merritt as if in a cycling match sprint hoping for a stretch run finale, but lost to experience when Francis passed, as Merritt was able to react/shift gears better)

ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT
Whomever will be coach needs to ensure the eventual team candidates get to train, compete, and perform in several relays in different orders to help improve their confidence in each other. It is also expected that the governing entities/bodies (Minister of Sport, TTOC, SportTT, NAAA) recognizes the strong possibility for gold and ensure that the team has the opportunity to run in the 2016 Penn Relays, World Relay Champs, and another couple of 4x400m relays on the pre-Olympic circuit. I also assume they know how important it is for the team to be in some form of preparatory camp, whether or not in Brazil, early enough, and that all the components are in place (comfortable accommodations, adequate food/nutrition, access to training facilities, reliable transportation, physio, psychotherapist, etc).
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 05:17:35 PM »
I am sure Cedenio's team will be focusing on his speed in order to improve his PR.
Here's my take:

HEALTH OF TOP 3
Barring injuries which should be minimized, given all 3 (Cedenio, Lendore, Gordon) are all pros and not/no longer subject to NCAA rigors, and in camps with capable physios and sports science resources, I expect them all to improve their PRs in an Olympic year.

STABLE STRENGTH
The big concern is whether Rene Quow can sustain another year at a top level given his age. Both he and Solomon are in the same boat, but are crucial experienced cogs in the wheel. Should they fall off due to age/injury we have to look toward (in terms of pure 400m talent, not hurdles for now) Jereem Richards who is now at Univ. of Alabama (hopefully getting the opportunity to train with Kirani James) and other upcoming talent. Jacob St. Clair has grown some and getting stronger, gotten exposure as an alternate at last year's Panams so we have to see how his junior campaign may add to the stable. We have to look further at other potential talent - where's Carlyle Roudette?

TARGET TIME POSSIBILITIES
Doing the math, should Quow lead off in 44.5 to 44.9 (he did the latter in Beijing), Gordon run a master leg in say 43.5 (which is expected if he PRs in the flat), Lendore maintain that pace at a similar 43.5 (assuming a PR and no injury), and Cedenio in a 43-low anchor - well that could put us within the realm of possibility as fast as in the 2:54 high to 2:56 range. Whether that will be good enough for gold in a "drag race" type relay, who knows, especially with what the US, Jamaica, Bahamas, Belgium, UK, etc might bring.

TACTICS AND REALITIES
Optimal splits do not always happen even if the raw talent is there - many US teams are case in point. There are several key tactical points that need to be coached and honed in races prior to the Olympics:
1. Exchange zone passes to ensure the baton keeps moving between in the incoming and outgoing runners based on judgment and experience (Cedenio tends to stand still or bounce up and down awaiting the baton)
2. Getting your team in front so that they could run clear of the bumps and traffic that slows one's relay split (the lead-off and second legs will be crucial in ensuring this and should have decent 200m speed)
3. Maintaining pole position if you have it, or having the courage to take it (aka a sensible version of Javon Francis) - this will be Lendore's job as the US's current athletes will hit Olympic-level form, or they will most likely sprout some new talent next year
4. Running to your ability to maximize your relay split forgetting who's on your shoulder (Cedenio slowed and ran with Merritt as if in a cycling match sprint hoping for a stretch run finale, but lost to experience when Francis passed, as Merritt was able to react/shift gears better)

ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT
Whomever will be coach needs to ensure the eventual team candidates get to train, compete, and perform in several relays in different orders to help improve their confidence in each other. It is also expected that the governing entities/bodies (Minister of Sport, TTOC, SportTT, NAAA) recognizes the strong possibility for gold and ensure that the team has the opportunity to run in the 2016 Penn Relays, World Relay Champs, and another couple of 4x400m relays on the pre-Olympic circuit. I also assume they know how important it is for the team to be in some form of preparatory camp, whether or not in Brazil, early enough, and that all the components are in place (comfortable accommodations, adequate food/nutrition, access to training facilities, reliable transportation, physio, psychotherapist, etc).

Good stuff!  :beermug:
Can't argue against any of your points and suggestions so lets hope those who are in charge are reading and taking note.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 08:05:49 AM »
A couple of holes in your analysis.. you can't base the top 3 on what you think their potential is.... but based them on the performance they displayed this year....  Quow won the national title for the 2nd year in a row... and is 3rd among TTO Quarter Milers on the IAAF list for 2015 only behind cedenio and lendore.  How are you factoring in only solomon and quow's age ? but not gordon's ? you do know they are all jut a year apart from each other right ? lol
Confused as to how You say solomon and Quow are in the same boat when Quow just came off his best individual year since 2009..  I would say Quow looks quite promising.

Gordon - 27
Quow - 28
Solomon - 29 (30 in Jan)

Thompson is 30 and still competing and will be 31 for rio.. so should we consider him unstable as well ? Age can be a factor in some.. but once you keep your body well.. you can survive well into your late 30's ( Chris Brown, Collins,)

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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 04:19:08 PM »
If you've run at a serious level you should know that longevity is a function of both age and mileage on the legs. With age, recovery from injuries becomes a longer journey as the years tick by and the mileage increases.

I am not discounting Quow from the top 3 (it's possible he'll make it) but based on the fact that Gordon (despite his age) started competing seriously only as an adult (2011), compared to Quow who has been at it since his teens, it is more likely that Gordon will post a better time than him next year, an Olympic year when men push themselves to the limit, risking injury in repeating hard workout cycles.

1. Which of the 2 ran more commandingly and consistently in both rounds of the 2015 WC relay?
2. You yourself mentioned Quow's had his best year since 2009 (what's that 6 years?), so isn't it more likely (all things equal) that Gordon will have a better year than him next year based on consistency?
3. Here's data to corroborate - 2012 to 2015 SB for both athletes:
Quow - 45.48, 45.65, 45.08, 44.54 (average 45.19)
Gordon - 44.52, 45.67, 44.78, 44.64 (average 44.90)
Again which of the 2 has been more consistent and likely to run faster next year?

Also confused, where does Thompson and his age enter the 4x400m analysis discussion?

All in all, based on the Olympic cycle (2012 to 2015), Gordon (the 2012 bronze medallist) has been the more visible individual 400m performer of the 2 at world-level games, until being usurped by first Lendore, and now Cedenio.

I wish all 4 run would run 44 flat or faster next year but one has to be realistic and analyze based on trends and event knowledge.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2015, 12:18:35 AM »
where was i saying Gordon was not in the top 3 ? all i said was why not factor in his age as well.. based on performances from 2015...

The Top 3 in my opinion last year were cedenio gordon and quow in that order.

Also automatically placing Gordon in the top 3 if u want to judge based on consistency.. why not talk about consistency at National Championships... which in 2016 unlike 2015 might be the deciding factor in who gets the spots for Olympics. Gordon has had average performances in the 2013 and 2015 National Champs.. and 2014 he was the favorite to win and got pipped by Quow..  Let's not mention consistency and only mention the things we want to mention...

Gordon training is perfect because he tends to not peak at Nationals and peaks at the Worlds/Olympics but u need to sometimes peak twicee because if u dont perform well at Nationals and finish in the top 3 if it was like the U.S.A u wouldnt be selected.. but TTO rules are completely different.

Also how was Gordon usurped by Lendore, Lendore has yet to proven himself individually at any world games.

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Maximizing T&T Men's 4x400m Relay Team Gold medal potentail in Rio!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 11:22:03 PM »
Cedenio takes the 2016 400m national title and Gordon comes 2nd in OG standard and SB.
Deon Lendore secures 3rd place and our 3rd Olympic birth in the 400m as he has already run better than the 45.40 OG standard back in May when he ran 45.31 at the Baie Mahault Meeting International in Guadeloupe.

http://www.ttnaaa.org/results/2016/naaa_open/

Event 4  Men 400 Meter Dash
=======================================================================   
          NR: # 44.21  8/3/1992    Ian Morris                             
          CR: $ 44.90  2015        Renny Quow                             
                45.40  OG Olympic Std                                     
    Name              Year Team                    Finals        Points
   
=======================================================================   
Section  1 Finals                                                         
  1 Griffith, Jermaine  95 Guyana                   46.44                 
  2 Landburge, Jordan   92 Unattached               46.78                 
  3 Chance, Arinze      96 Utt Fast Track           47.19                 
  4 Valentine-Parris,   95 ST Vincent               47.23                 
  5 Lewis, Theon        95 PAP                      47.61                 
  6 Sterling, Tacuma    92 Alpha Athletic Club      48.24                 
Section  2 Finals                                                         
  1 Cedenio, Machel     95 Simplex                  44.45$OG             
  2 Gordon, Lalonde     88 Nike                     44.69$OG
             
  3 Lendore, Deon       92 Abilene                  45.47                 
  4 Solomon, Jarrin     86 Memphis Pioneers         45.49                 
  5 Quow, Renny         87 Zenith                   45.85                 
  6 Richards, Jereem    94 Abilene                  46.02
                 
  7 Roudette, Carlyle   91 Abilene                  46.18                 
  8 Allyene-Forte, Ade  88 Simplex                  47.94                 
==========================================================================
          NR: # 44.21  8/3/1992    Ian Morris                             
          CR: $ 44.90  2015        Renny Quow                             
                45.40  OG Olympic Std                                     
    Name              Year Team                    Finals        H# Points

==========================================================================
Finals                                                                   
  1 Cedenio, Machel     95 Simplex                  44.45$OG      2       
  2 Gordon, Lalonde     88 Nike                     44.69$OG      2
       
  3 Lendore, Deon       92 Abilene                  45.47         2       
  4 Solomon, Jarrin     86 Memphis Pioneers         45.49         2       
  5 Quow, Renny         87 Zenith                   45.85         2       
  6 Richards, Jereem    94 Abilene                  46.02         2
       
  7 Roudette, Carlyle   91 Abilene                  46.18         2       
  8 Griffith, Jermaine  95 Guyana                   46.44         1       
  9 Landburge, Jordan   92 Unattached               46.78         1       
 10 Chance, Arinze      96 Utt Fast Track           47.19         1       
 11 Valentine-Parris,   95 ST Vincent               47.23         1       
 12 Lewis, Theon        95 PAP                      47.61         1       
 13 Allyene-Forte, Ade  88 Simplex                  47.94         2       
 14 Sterling, Tacuma    92 Alpha Athletic Club      48.24         1   

Our top 6 in 400m Final (highlighted in red) should make up our 4x400m Relay Squad to Rio which are:-
Machel Cedenio, Lalonde Gordon, Deon Lendore, Jarrin Solomon, Renny Quow & Jereem Richards.

Hardluck to Carlyle Roudette who is a strong relay runner as he just missed out on making our 4x400m relay pool to Rio. Lets hope Jereem Richards, who just edged out Roudette for the 6th spot rises to the occasion and can get himself into at least 45.mid form by Rio.

In fact I would like to see all the quarter-milers in our 4x400m Olympic pool run the OG standard of 45.40 or better before the Rio Games as that is the calibre of our 4x4 squad that is required for us to beat the USA and Bahamas and to win 4x400m gold in Rio and create history like the Bahamas did at the London Olympics.

In addition I  would like to see Deon, Jarrin & Renny all ketch some sub-45 form before Rio so that our 4x400m team can use 4 men in sub-45 form in the 4x400m Relay Final in Rio. I think Cedenio and Gordon have already proven that they are in sub-45 form and are potential individual 400m Finalists in Rio.

Also if both Machel Cedenio and Lalonde Gordon make the individual 400m Final in Rio then we will need to rest both of them in the 4x400m Heats in Rio and still be able to field a strong enough team to win our 4x400m Heat in Rio and so secure a good lane for the 4x400m Final.

A good lane draw in the 4x4 Final and having all our men in sub-45 form can make all the difference between medalling and pressing for the gold medal or not medalling in Rio and being highly disappointed that we under-performed.

Based on current form my pick for the Men's 4x400m Final in Rio (assuming that we qualify for the Final) would be these quarter-milers in this order:-

Lalonde Gordon to Jarrin Solomon to Deon Lendore to Machel Cedenio;

If we want to win the gold medal in Rio then both Solomon and Lendore needs to get themselves into sub-45 form by Rio. It will also be good for us if Renny Quow can get himself into sub-45 form as a back-up alternative for the 4x4 final in case one of our top 4 picks up an injury or under-performs in the 4x4 Heats.

And assuming both Cedenio and Gordon make the 400m individual finals and need to be rested from the 4x4 Heats in Rio, I would run this team in this order in the 4x400m Heats in Rio:-

Renny Quow to Jarrin Solomon to Jereem Richards to Deon Lendore.

I think this squad should have the leg speed to win our 4x4 Heat in Rio and secure us a good lane for the Final especially if Renny Quow, Jarrin Solomon and Deon Lendore can all get themselves into sub-45 form by Rio and Jereem Richards can get himself into OG standard form which means lowering his 400m PB to 45.40 or better.

I hope our quarter-milers all read this post so that it is clear in their minds what is required of them form-wise by Rio if we plan to leave the Olympics with a potential 4x400m gold medal and so create history for a T&T Relay team.

The potential is there & our Men's 4x400m relay squad could be our best chance of winning a gold medal in Rio.

To maximize chances of our Men's 4x400m relay team winning gold in Rio we require:-

Machel Cedenio in sub-44 form to be able to hang/hold-off the likes of Merritt and anchor us to gold

Lalonde Gordon in 44-low form to lead us off with a strong start ahead of most of the other teams

Deon Lendore back to his old self and in 44-mid form to maintain any lead we have over the pack on 3rd leg

Jarrin Solomon in sub-45 to ensure he can put us in a leading position after a strong lead off leg by Gordon

Renny Quow also in sub-45 to be a good alternate for Jarrin or anyone else in the final four in case of injury

Jereem Richards at least in 45.40 OG standard form so that he can deliver a strong 3rd leg in the 4x4 Heats to ensure our anchor man in the 4x4 Heats can secure 1st place and earn us a good lane for the 4x400m Final.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 01:29:41 AM »
What our main 4x4 rivals ran individually at their National Trials:

The Bahamians ran these times (lets assuming top 6 will be their 4x4 relay squad):-

1 Gardiner, Steven Unattached 44.46 OG
2 Russell, Alonzo Unattached 45.25 OG

3 Brown, Chris Unattached 45.59
4 Newbold, Stephen Unattached 45.80
5 Pinder, Demetrius Unattached 46.16
6 Mathieu, Michael Unattached 46.29

7 Bain, Andretti Unattached 47.90
-- Delauze, Henri Unattached DNF

Chris Brown still needs to run the OG standard of 45.40 this season if he wants to run the individual 400m event in Rio. Here is race video.

BAAAs 2016 400 Meters Mens Finals Steven Gardiner
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/iiS4n9T-9RA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/iiS4n9T-9RA</a>


The British quarter-milers ran these times (lets assuming top 6 will be their 4x4 relay squad):-

http://www.britishathletics.org.uk/results/20160624_birmingham/timetable/index/Data/M/400_R_f.html

400 METRES - Men - Final   OFFICIAL RESULTS
1      Matthew HUDSON-SMITH   BIRCHFLD   44.88      0.226      SB & OG   
2      Rabah YOUSIF BKHEIT   NEWHAM EB   45.52      0.143      SB      
3      Martyn ROONEY   CROYDON   46.01      0.166            
4      Jarryd DUNN   BIRCHFLD   46.02      0.193      SB      
5      Nigel LEVINE   WSE HOUNS   46.15      0.134            
6      Theo CAMPBELL   BIRCHFLD   46.25      0.195
            
7      Dwayne COWAN   WIMBLEDON   46.48      0.229            
8      Jamie BOWIE   E LOTHIAN   46.99      0.199            

YOUSIF BKHEIT & ROONEY both still need to run OG standard of 45.40 or better this season if they want o run individual 400m in Rio. Here is race video.

Men's 400m Final British Athletics Championship 2016
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2016, 08:06:31 AM »
I think you need to include Jamaica in your analysis as they have reinvigorated their 400m corp, and depending on their OT results next weekend will most likely figure in the mix.

Rusheen McDonald - Ran that 43.9 but nothing to back it up since, but you never know
Javon Francis - may improve to sub-44.5
Akeem Bloomfield - 200/400 talent with 2015 44.9, same body/running style as Gardiner (BAH) and Cedenio
Fitzroy Dunkley - converted long/triple jumper who ran 45.06 for LSU this year
Dimes Gaye - new local talent (45.30) this year
Other talent with notable 2015 performances to look out for in their OT - Peter Matthews (44.7), Ricardo Chambers (44.9), Edino Steele (45.2), Nathon Allen (45.3)
Chris Taylor - 45.26 - may not test him this young (save for WJC), but he's a soldier if they need him.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2016, 02:07:56 PM »
I am waiting to see what the JA quarter milers run in their National Trials next weekend and when I see the top 6 in their 400m Final then I can analyse their chances.

Same also goes for USA (and Grenada if they field a senior 4x400m relay team) at their Trials.
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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2016, 08:07:43 PM »
Don't forget about Botswana..

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Re: Men's & Women's 4x400m Relay Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016, 04:49:17 AM »
Don't forget about Botswana..

And South Africa and Kenya and Belgium..

As I indicated once they all pick their 6-man 4x400m Relay pool we can look at the SB's of the quarter-milers in their relay pools to analyse their chances.

What is safe to say is if we get our top 5 quarter-milers into sub-45 shape (Cedenio, Gordon, Lendore, Solomon & Quow) Cedenio and Gordon are already there and the 6th one Jereem Richards into OG 400m standard shape of 45.40 or better and focus on beating the USA in the 4x4 final then I think we could stand one of our best chances of bringing home another gold from the Rio 2016 Olympics.
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