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T&T water taxi thread.
« on: January 06, 2009, 09:10:03 PM »
Engine trouble disrupts water taxi service
Tuesday, January 6th 2009

 
 Dozens of citizens hoping to travel from Port of Spain to San Fernando onboard the brand new water taxi ferry service yesterday were left disappointed as they were unable to purchase tickets.

The disruption in the smooth service was caused following an engine breakdown on one of the vessels earlier yesterday resulting in a one-hour journey taking more than three hours.

Customer service representatives at the water taxi terminal in Port of Spain told customers that all tickets were sold out and advised them to return today for tickets. A message posted at the Cruise Ship Complex stated-"All tickets sold out" was scribbled in red across a white board where the ferry schedule for the days' sailings had also been written down.

The water ferry service officially began yesterday after several delays in launching the multi-million-dollar project.

"This is real craziness, they need to do something about this ticket system," Lincoln Dindial asserted. He had travelled from Tunapuna into Port of Spain and had hoped to catch the 4.30 p.m. trip on the ferry to San Fernando only to be told that there were no tickets available.

Dindial and other citizens gathered at the terminal yesterday evening just after 3 p.m. openly expressed their frustration over travelling to the terminal only to be turned back. A female staff member at the terminal was seen making every effort to soothe the disgruntled group of customers who demanded answers but it proved a difficult task. She explained that there were no tickets available and asked them to return today.

"I came all the way from Freeport down here today and all for nothing. I contacted the Port Authority to get information about the sailing only to be told that they have no information about the ferry," Gloria Raphael complained.

Raphael who was accompanied by members of her family had hoped to try out the ferry for the first time. She said she was also disappointed that the authorities did not provide a telephone number for patrons to call "to get information about the schedule and other details before coming all the way down here. How are we to get information?".

But Majid Mohammed, Corporate Communications Specialist of the National Infrastructure Development Company (NIDCO), the State-owned company which manages the service, gave a different explanation for the unavailability of tickets.

Mohammed said the HC Milancia which left the Port of Spain en route to San Fernando yesterday morning around 10.40 a.m., experienced some "technical difficulties" and arrived much later than expected around 1.45 p.m.

A media release from NIDCO stated that two of the four engines "were experiencing problems resulting in a significant loss of speed."

Mohammed said as a result the sailing schedule was automatically affected and the operators were forced to "close off sales". He, however, said that by late evening the sailing schedule had returned to normal. Mohammed assured customers that all tickets purchased for yesterday's service will be honoured in exchange for two one-way tickets.
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‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 04:27:39 AM »
‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
By Anna Ramdass (Express).


$53m FLOTSAM

THE Government has a multi-million-dollar headache it is trying to get rid of—the MV Su.
Since the People’s National Movement (PNM) Government purchased the Su in 2008 through the National Infrastructure Development Company (NIDCO) for $25 million to be used as a water taxi, it has never sailed a day.

In fact, $27 million has been spent on repairs and maintenance, more than the purchase price.
To date, a total of $53.5 million of taxpayers’ money has been spent on the Su, which will sink if it makes a short voyage from Chaguaramas to the Waterfront Complex, Port of Spain, says Transport Minister Devant Maharaj.

Some $67,000 a month is currently being spent just to keep the MV Su berthed at the Inter Isle Construction Co Ltd dockyard in Chaguaramas, where it has been for almost four years.
But the MV Su is just part of the problem. To add to the headache, there are three other vessels—HC Katia, HC Olivia and HC Milancia—purchased in 2008 for $36 million at $12 million each.

These three vessels are currently not functioning and are packed away at the Coast Guard facility in Chaguaramas. There is no place there to store the MV Su, so money has to be forked out to keep it at a private dockyard, said Maharaj.

Like the MV Su, the other ships are also up for sale. These three vessels sailed from December 2008 to September 2010 in the water taxi service, with a maintenance cost of close to $10 million from 2009 to 2011.

Since 2008 to now, approximately $100 million has been spent on these four boats.
The Express yesterday went on an exclusive tour of the MV Su with Minister Maharaj and Sharon Taylor, director of the Water Taxi Service.

The MV Su, a passenger ship with a capacity for 600 people, was purchased with the intention of using it on the water taxi service.

For $25 million one would have expected to see a spanking new ship with modern facilities.
The MV Su is far from that, based on what the Express saw.
The ship is rusting all over and the upholstery is worn out.

No one wants to buy the MV Su for anything near what was spent on it.
Maharaj said advertisements were placed internationally in November 2011 for the sale of the MV Su and two persons were interested in buying the ship...for its scrap metal—for $560,000 and $550,000, respectively.

He said Cabinet advised advertisements be placed locally to see if anyone would offer a better price in an effort to reclaim some of the costs.

The company Astralship completed a valuation survey for the MV Su and submitted a valuation ranging between US$50,000 and US$100,000 for the vessel based on its age, its existing condition, its current location at a dockyard in Trinidad, as well as the prevailing conditions within the second-hand market.
Maharaj questioned what procurement process was used during the PNM regime to purchase the MV Su.
“Perhaps we should send a copy of the ad to Balisier House for Dr Rowley and Mr Imbert to have a look at and offer a price,” he said to Taylor.

An employee of Inter Isle, where the MV Su is berthed, told the Minister that when the ship came into the dockyard in 2008, the company was mandated to re-paint it.

“When we blasted it (MV Su) we saw big pits and stopped immediately and called the Minister. There was a kind of paste which is like filler, when it was blasted, all that was left was pits all over,” he said.
What is startling behind the story of the MV Su is all the summary costs associated with the vessel after $25 million was paid for it.

Some $4.1 million was paid to transport the MV Su from Turkey to St Thomas and another $3 million to tow it from St Thomas to Curacao, where it underwent repairs.
In Curacao, millions were spent to repair the MV Su...and it still could not sail.

The MV Su was towed from Curacao to Trinidad and to give the impression that it was working well, it was allowed to sail into Inter Isle dock yard with the service of one of its engines--a distance of about 300 feet, said the Inter Isle employee.

The Express obtained a copy of all these costs, which included hundreds of thousands of dollars in consultancy fees and services.
In Curacao, major repairs were undertaken. Some of the costs include $1.3 million to S.E.L Maduro and Sons for repairs. Another $1.1 million was paid to N.V. Curacaose Dok Maatshappi for more repairs.
Some $1.2 million was paid to a company, D. Hughes, for stainless steel sea water pipe removal work on the MV Su.

For 2008 to 2011, a total of $6.9 million was paid to Inter Isle Construction Co Ltd for berth and additonal repairs to the MV Su.
The cheapest expense on the list for the MV Su was the purchase of a flag for the vessel from Brian White and Associates for $4,324.

Contacted yesterday for comment, former works and transport minister Colm Imbert distanced himself from the MV Su.
“I had nothing to do with that, I was not involved, a lot of the information in the public domain is not accurate,” he said.

Imbert said all questions should be to former minister in the Ministry of Works and Transport, Roger Joseph, who he said went to Turkey and conducted all transactions with respect to the purchase of the MV Su. Efforts to reach Joseph proved futile.
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Re: ‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 07:30:42 AM »
i went and looked at this water taxi when i was helping some friends move a generator on that same jetty.
The owner of the mooring was laughing when I asked how long it had been there and if they paying monthly. Said it was easiest money ever made and told me how it couldn't even drive anywhere. That thing in a serious state and that was a year ago or so.
All it is good for is scrap
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Re: ‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 07:47:25 AM »
Along with the Balloon, evidence of some more good investments by PNM...
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Re: ‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 10:27:37 AM »
Along with the Balloon, evidence of some more good investments by PNM...

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Re: ‘MV Su’–water taxi nobody wants to buy
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 04:23:47 AM »
$127m LOST
4 water taxis cost $133m; sold for $6m
By Anna Ramdass (Express).
Jun 10, 2012


More than $127 million of taxpayers' money has been lost following the sale of four water taxis that were purchased under the People's National Movement (PNM) administration—including the controversial MV Su that was never used.

Documents obtained by the Express show that some $55 million was spent to buy and repair the MV Su which has been sold for $548,800 for scrap iron.

The MV Su was purchased for $25 million while the HC Katia, the HC Olivia and the HC Milancia were purchased in 2008 for use as water taxis at $12 million each.

The MV Su never sailed a day since it was bought. Twenty seven million more was spent on repairs alone after it was bought and, according to Transport Minister Devant Maharaj, it would have sunk had it made a short voyage from Chaguaramas to Port of Spain.

For four years the MV Su was berthed at the Inter Isle Construction Co Ltd. dockyard, Chaguaramas, costing thousands of dollars which escalated to some $76,000 a month. The other vessels were kept at the Coast Guard compound at Hart's Cut, Chaguaramas.

Advertisements were placed for the sale of the MV Su in March this year.

Documents on the sale of the vessels show that capital expenditure, (which includes the cost of acquisition in addition to the cost incurred to bring the vessels into use) amounted to $133,310,513 while $6,038,265 was recovered from their sale, resulting in a total loss of $127,272,248.

In a telephone interview with the Express yesterday, Maharaj confirmed that agreements have been put in place to sell all the vessels.

"When one looks at all the other attendant costs, almost half a billion dollars was spent to set up the water taxi service and to purchase these vessels,'' said Maharaj.

"This is an indictment against Colm Imbert (former works and transport Minister). It will be interesting to find out what Dr (Keith) Rowley has to say about all of this. The MV Su is the personification of PNM squandermania, it never sailed a day,'' said Maharaj.

"It is a relief to close this chapter of rampant wastage, the cost of keeping these vessels just did not make economic sense," he added.

The National Infrastructure Development Company (NIDCO) was directed by Cabinet to sell the vessels and the services of an international broker, Astralship Corporation Ltd of Gibraltar, were retained.

In November 2011, Astralship did a valuation survey on the MV Su and assessed its resale value on the second hand market at between TT$332,000 and TT$644,000 based on its age, existing condition and prevailing conditions.

The Express understands that four persons expressed interest in buying the MV Su.

An international based company—Miami Connection Ltd—was given approval to buy the MV Su for scrap iron for $548,800.

As of May 31, 2012, a total of TT$55 million had been expended in the procurement, repair and berthing of the MV Su.

Documents further disclosed that TT$9.4 million will have to be injected by the Government to liquidate the loan on the MV Su.

With respect to the other three vessels, Astralship also submitted a valuation in November 2011 which stated that the HC Milancia and HC Katia were valued at between US$550,000/$700,000, and the HC Olivia at between US $400,000/$500,000.

In March 2012, the vessels were reassessed and because of the lack of maintenance at the coast guard facility and further deterioration they were valued as follows: HC Milancia and HC Katia—between US$300,000/$400,000 and HC Olivia—US$200,000/$300,000.

Astralship recommended that the bid of Val Ferry Caraibe (Guadeloupe) for the vessels be accepted.

Documents show that it was agreed that all three vessels will be sold for TT$5.4 million.

However, Government will still be required to pump $7.8 million to liquidate the portion of the loan relating to the three vessels.

A US$12 million loan was secured through Scotiabank in Trinidad and Tobago to purchase all four vessels.

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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 04:59:44 AM »
smdh......*sigh*  This is why I had to put on a hazmat suit and vote out the PNM.  The street where I live is in bad need of repair.  When I called the councillor he said there was no money to fix it.  But we have money for some old boats......and of course somebody was made a millionare in this I'm sure.

Now this current bunch eh no better so dais why next General Election unless Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy form a party, I eh voting......same shit, different government.  Wasting my blasted time!!!....


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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 06:38:47 AM »
smdh......*sigh*  This is why I had to put on a hazmat suit and vote out the PNM.  The street where I live is in bad need of repair.  When I called the councillor he said there was no money to fix it.  But we have money for some old boats......and of course somebody was made a millionare in this I'm sure.

Now this current bunch eh no better so dais why next General Election unless Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy form a party, I eh voting......same shit, different government.  Wasting my blasted time!!!....


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Brownie, if you were paying attention letely, you would see that Santa Claus has been making some very good comments lately concerning his views on the underlying interest rates and how they can hekp to improve the economy and specifically improve income for those living on the breadline. He's been advocating giving out gifts once a year in the form of means tested social security benefits. The tooth fairies new crime plans are very exciting, while the Easter Bunny's take on improving GDP by agressively improving the balance of overseas trade are remarkable.

But seriously, I note that 50% of the time these ships were owned was under the PP government. The purchase may have been unsound, but the continuing service and maintenance was the responsibilty of Jack Warner. If they didn't like the taxis, that's ok, but you cannot knowingly allow taxpayers assets to devalue just to make a point.

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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 07:53:00 AM »
smdh......*sigh*  This is why I had to put on a hazmat suit and vote out the PNM.  The street where I live is in bad need of repair.  When I called the councillor he said there was no money to fix it.  But we have money for some old boats......and of course somebody was made a millionare in this I'm sure.

Now this current bunch eh no better so dais why next General Election unless Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy form a party, I eh voting......same shit, different government.  Wasting my blasted time!!!....


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Brownie, if you were paying attention letely, you would see that Santa Claus has been making some very good comments lately concerning his views on the underlying interest rates and how they can hekp to improve the economy and specifically improve income for those living on the breadline. He's been advocating giving out gifts once a year in the form of means tested social security benefits. The tooth fairies new crime plans are very exciting, while the Easter Bunny's take on improving GDP by agressively improving the balance of overseas trade are remarkable.

But seriously, I note that 50% of the time these ships were owned was under the PP government. The purchase may have been unsound, but the continuing service and maintenance was the responsibilty of Jack Warner. If they didn't like the taxis, that's ok, but you cannot knowingly allow taxpayers assets to devalue just to make a point.

the MV sue was ah nonsense buy.........but the devaluation of the 4 small water taxis fall squarely on the PP those were transition outa service under dem .........forked tongue mofos!!
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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2012, 02:37:36 AM »
VOODOO MATHS
Jack: Imbert owes country explanation on why millions were wasted on water taxis
By Anna Ramdass (Express).
Jun 12, 2012


Government Minister Jack Warner has accused former works and transport minister Colm Imbert of using "voodoo maths" in a bid to cast blame away from the People's National Movement (PNM) in the purchase of four water taxis.

The purchase and subsequent sale of the vessels have resulted in some $127 million being lost as the vessels were sold for $6 million, according to figures in documents from the National Infrastructure Development Company (Nidco).

On Monday, the Express exclusively reported the sale of the four water taxis—the MV Su, the HC Olivia, the HC Katia and the HC Milancia— and quoted official documents from Nidco, which stated that capital expenditure (cost and upkeep) on the vessels was $133 million.

Imbert, on Tuesday, issued a release stating the figures were inflated by 100 per cent and questioned who was benefitting from the sale of the vessels.

During a site visit in Maraval yesterday, Warner said Imbert was seeking to deflect from the facts.

In a statement, Warner stated the figures carried in the Express were accurate.

"The facts are, as extrapolated in Monday's Express from Nidco documents, that the capital expenditure, which totalled $133.3 million, represents the cost of acquisition of the vessels and the 'cost incurred to bring the vessels into use'. The cost of acquiring the "Three Sisters" (HC Olivia, HC Milancia and HC Katia) is $43.3 million, and $35 million was spent in bringing the three vessels into use. The total capital expenditure on the Three Sisters, therefore, is $78.3 million," said Warner.

He added the MV Su was acquired at a cost of $32.6 million, and over $22.4 million was spent in trying to bring the vessel into use, including berthing fees of $76,000 a month.

"The total capitalised cost of the Su was $55 million. It is a well-documented fact that due to a fault in the vessel's hull, the Su was unsafe for use and could not be put in service. Therefore, every cent spent on the Su went down the drain and without a single passenger ever travelling on the Su," stated Warner.

"The total capital expenditure on the four vessels is $133.3 million, and after deducting $6.04 million in proceeds from the sale of the vessels, the loss on disposal is $127.3 million," added Warner.

Warner said further that the PNM was advised against buying the vessels.

"...But if you look at the records from 2007, you would see four or five Cabinet notes; it was on, it was off; they were buying four, they were buying two; at the end of the day, they end up buying four second-hand boats," said Warner.

"I look at some Cabinet notes and in one of the notes, they said do not buy it any more; I have in my desk a Cabinet note in which they said don't buy it any more," Warner added.

Asked to elaborate on which former minister advised against the purchase of the boats, Warner responded, "This is the PNM Cabinet in 2007; I have it on my desk; Cabinet notes are confidential, but I swear, on my mother's grave, I have it on my desk; they say not to buy it, wanted to go, of course, to lease per day and all kinds of things, just rushing to satisfy political expediency that they believe would be in their benefit," said Warner.

He said former works and transport minister Colm Imbert owed the country an explanation on why millions were wasted behind second-hand vessels that were not seaworthy.

Imbert, in an e-mailed response to the Express last night, said Warner's figures did not add up.

"From the tone and tenor of his remarks, Mr Warner appears to be still upset that the Transport portfolio was removed from under his purview. I have stated the facts as I know them to be, whereas the figures that he has quoted do not add up," he said.

"As confirmed by Mr Warner in Parliament on July 2, 2010, the three hydrocruisers purchased out of England in 2008 cost a total of $35 million.

"The records available to me indicate that minor repairs and upgrade work, costing a total of $6 million, on the three boats were done by Nidco, as planned and budgeted, to these three boats prior to their introduction into the service. In fact, I am advised that this information was published in 2009. Mr Warner's new figure of $78 million for the cost of these three boats thus makes no sense," he added.

Imbert said the very low sale price of the vessels is a serious matter for concern, especially since these three boats, which provided an excellent service up to October 22, 2010, were allowed to deteriorate for almost two years and have now been sold for a pittance.

"The current Minister of Transport, before he takes his leave, must explain what has happened with this sale," said Imbert.
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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2012, 02:55:57 AM »
Compare the two articles posted by Flex and one will see the erroneous numbers being quoted by Warner.  I say "erroneous" because the purchase price in yesterday's article supposedly came from "reliable sources", figures that matched those in a statement released by Imbert yesterday.  So we have Imbert+ Reliable sources saying $25 mil for the MV Su, and $12 mil a piece for the three sisters.  Then we have Warner singing an inflated song.  Given the relative credibility of the individuals involved (even the anonymous "reliable sources") it's therefore not difficult to see who's in fact using "voodoo maths"... a corruption of the "Voodoo Economics" branded to Reagan's "trickle-down economics" of 30 yrs ago.

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Re: T&T water taxi thread.
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2012, 06:35:51 AM »
As usual, we have a case of public importance being used as a political weapon. The purchase of the ships may have been a bad decision, and a careful press release containing relevant facts and measured argument may have proved to score points for PP.

However, two facts remain very clear:

The taxis worked well while in service, but the PP removed them.

For two years, the ships were berthed and not maintained by the Minister of Transport...a fact that, no doubt, greatly devalued the ships.

Imberts musings about somebody possibly taking a kickback is a very real concern given the facts. Whenever there are such issues surrounding Warner, that will be a concern. This may be unfair, but considering the many allegations surrounding Warner, its understandable.

As I have said before, Jack is innocent until proven otherwise. If he, and the government, wish to maintain their integrity all he has to do is prove his accusers wrong.

If you are a public figure and are innocent, and have proof that this is so, surely you would move heaven and earth to prove this? All the time you refuse to defend yourself, people will assume otherwise.

And the PP are adopting Jack's tactics of kneejerk accusations based on secret papers that can't be revealed. Another example is Sandy saying that the reason for the SOE still can't be explained because the threat is still here!

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T&T Express resumes ‘normal sailing schedule’

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T&T Express resumes ‘normal sailing schedule’

The public is hereby advised that the normal sailing schedule of the T&T Express and T&T Spirit will resume from Tuesday 08 March, 2016 as follows:

From Port of Spain From Scarborough

Mondays, Tuesdays &Thursdays 6.30 am & 5.00 pm 6.30 am & 5.00 pm

Wednesday 6.30 am & 12.00 noon 6.30 am & 12.00noon

Fridays 6.30 am, 10.00 am 6.30 am, 1.30 pm

& 5.00 pm & 5.00 pm

Saturdays 6.30 am & 4.00 pm 6.30 am & 4.00 pm

Sundays 9.30 am & 3.00 pm 9.30 am & 5.00 pm

 

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