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Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« on: September 26, 2019, 05:32:06 AM »
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Venezuela game on the 29th of May 2019 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

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Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Glenroy Samuel (Terminix La Horquetta Rangers), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Alvin Jones (OKC Energy FC—US), Mekeil Williams (OKC Energy FC—US), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers), Sheldon Bateau (Mechelen—Belgium), Ross Russell Jr (La Horquetta Rangers), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa—Costa Rica), Keston Julien (AS Trencin—Slovakia).

Midfielders:

Aaron Lester (Defence Force), Duane Muckette (Memphis 901 FC—US), Leston Paul (Memphis 901 FC—US), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence—US), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven—US), Andre Fortune (North Carolina—US), Levi Garcia (Beitar Jerusalem—Israel), Ataulla Guerra (Charleston Battery FC—US).

Forwards:

Daniel Carr (Apollon—Cyprus), Akeem Garcia (HFX Wanderers—Canada), Marcus Joseph (Gokulam Kerala—India).

Coach - Dennis Lawrence (TRI).

Venezuela Squad

Goalkeepers

Wuilker Fariñez (Millonarios F.C. / Colombia) y Rafael Romo (Apoel / Cyprus).

Defenders

Rolf Feltscher (LA Galaxy / United States), Ronald Hernández (Stabaek / Norway), Nahuel Ferraresi (Porto B / Portugal), Jhon Chancellor (Brescia / Italy), Wilker Ángel (Grozny / Russia), Yordan Osorio (Zenit de St Petersburgo / Russia), Mikel Villanueva (Málaga / Spain), Luis Mago (Palestino / Chile), Bernardo Añor (Caracas F.C.), Roberto Rosales (C.D. Leganés / Spain).

Midfielders

Renzo Zambrano (Portland Timbers / Estados Unidos), José Martínez (Zulia F.C.), Bernaldo Manzano (Deportes Tolima / Colombia), Júnior Moreno (D.C. United / United States), Tomás Rincón (Torino / Italy), Yangel Herrera (Granada / Spain), Sergio Córdova (Augsburgo / Alemania), Jhon Murillo (C.D. Tondela / Portugal), Jefferson Savarino (Real Salt Lake / United States), Rómulo Otero (Atlético Mineiro / Brasil), Juan Pablo Añor (Málaga / Spain), Yeferson Soteldo (Santos / Brasil), Darwin Machís (Granada / España)

Forwards

Salomón Rondón (Dalian Yifang / China), Jan Hurtado (Boca Juniors / Argentina), Jhonder Cádiz (Dijion FCO / France), Andrés Ponce (Grozny / Russia), Fernando Aristeguieta (Monarcas Morelia / México)

Coach - Rafael Dudamel (VEN).


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 05:33:40 AM »
Venezuela to host Trinidad and Tobago in friendly
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Venezuela will play Trinidad and Tobago in a friendly next month as part of their preparations for the 2022 World Cup qualifiers, the South American country's football federation said on Monday.

The clash will take place at Estadio Olimpico in Caracas on October 14, four days after a previously announced duel with Bolivia at the same venue.

In November, the Vinotinto will meet Japan in Osaka and another yet to be confirmed opponent in their last outings before the South American zone World Cup qualifiers begin next March.

Venezuela are currently 26th in the FIFA rankings and are the only South American team to have never qualified for the World Cup finals.

Trinidad and Tobago, whose only appearance in football's showpiece event was in 2006, are currently ranked 100th.
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Venezuela name squad to face T&T
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 04:47:22 AM »
Venezuela name squad to face T&T
By Grevic Alvarado (T&T Newsday)


THE Venezuelan national football team, yesterday, announced the squad that will face T&T in Caracas, on October 14 in a friendly match.

Venezuelan coach Rafael Dudamel called up several players who play for in clubs in Europe.

The clash will take place at the Olympic Stadium of the University City of Caracas, with a capacity for 35,200 spectators, as part of the preparation of both teams for the World Cup qualifiers in Qatar 2022.

This will be the second preparatory match for Venezuela in October.

The Venezuelan football association also confirmed another match at the same venue on October 10 against Bolivia.

Venezuela, which currently occupy box 26 in the FIFA rankings, are the only South American country that have not attended a World Cup.

But T&T have played at the World Cup in Germany 2006 and on the way to Russia 2018, it took the last place in the final hexagonal of the Concacaf, which delivered three direct tickets to the teams of Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama.

T&T will also play against Mexico in the city of Toluca on October 2, then Honduras at Hasely Crawford Stadium on October 10 for the Concacaf League of Nations.

Venezuelan squad:

Goalkeepers: Wuilker Fariñez and Rafael Romo

Defenders: Rolf Feltscher, Ronald Hernández, Nahuel Ferraresi, Jhon Chancellor, Wilker Angel, Yordan Osorio, Mikel Villanueva, Luis Mago, Bernardo Añor and Roberto Rosales

Midfielders: Renzo Zambrano, José Martínez, Belnaldo Manzano, Junior Moreno, Tomas Rincón, Yangel Herrera, Sergio Córdova, Jhon Murillo, Jefferson Savarino, Romulo Otero, Juan Pablo Añor, Jefferson Soteldo and Darwin Machis

Forwards: Salomón Rondón, Jan Hurtado, Jhonder Cádiz, Fernando Aristiguieta and Andrés Ponce.
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 01:54:12 AM »
Atlanta United's Josef Martinez refuses to play for Venezuela coach
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Atlanta United striker Josef Martinez said he will not play for Venezuela's national team as long as Rafael Dudamel is the coach.

Martinez posted a statement on Instagram on Friday shortly after Venezuela's football federation announced a 32-player squad for upcoming friendlies against Bolivia and Trinidad and Tobago. Martinez was not included in the squad despite having scored 26 goals in the MLS this season.

Martinez said he made the decision because of "an increasingly deteriorating professional relationship" with Dudamel but said he still hopes to play for the national team again one day.

Dudamel has held the coaching job since 2016, and has not commented on Martinez's announcement.

Venezuela will play Bolivia on Oct. 10 and four days later will face Trinidad and Tobago. Both matches will be in Caracas.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2019, 02:33:25 PM »
More licks again, and watch marvin phillip and cyrus feature again. if I was foncette I wouldn’t even waste my time showing up when called, what’s the point? dennis will never play him and will only use him for practice.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 02:59:17 PM »
this is the game where fortune and others would be given a chance  to  DETERMINE IF they are  at international level according to DL.Questions will be answered.
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 03:02:53 PM »
this is the game where fortune and others would be given a chance  to  DETERMINE IF they are  at international level according to DL.Questions will be answered.

The determination of whether a player is a pro level player occurs when? Before or after he becomes a pro?

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 07:25:05 AM »
this is the game where fortune and others would be given a chance  to  DETERMINE IF they are  at international level according to DL.Questions will be answered.

The determination of whether a player is a pro level player occurs when? Before or after he becomes a pro?

lol well its DL we dealing with
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 01:36:19 PM »
this is the game where fortune and others would be given a chance  to  DETERMINE IF they are  at international level according to DL.Questions will be answered.

The determination of whether a player is a pro level player occurs when? Before or after he becomes a pro?

Depends who you’re asking  :D

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2019, 05:23:34 PM »
Lawrence announces 20-man Roster for Venezuela friendly.
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A Trinidad and Tobago 20-man squad arrived in Caracas around midday today for Monday’s International friendly against Venezuela at the Estadio Olimpico at 6:00pm.

Head Coach Dennis Lawrence today announced the squad that will go into the match following Thursday’s 2-0 defeat to Honduras in CONCACAF Nations League qualifying. Not included is captain Khaleem Hyland, defender Daneil Cyrus as well as US-based duo Joevin Jones and Kevin Molino due to club commitments.

“You always run the risk of that but then you have short term goals, medium term goals and you got long term goals. The way I look at it now we have to think long term,” Lawrence said after the defeat on Thursday.

“Every game now counts for something Now you look at it and you ask yourself, is he ready or is he not so the only way you can find out is putting them in the situation. So we got Venezuela and the only way we are going to know if somebody like Keston Julien, Andre Fortune, if they are ready is we need put them in that situation and then find out of they are ready. We need to put them in the environment and find out what would happen,” Lawrence added.

T&T Squad to face Venezuela

Goalkeepers:

Glenroy Samuel (Terminix La Horquetta Rangers), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Alvin Jones (OKC Energy FC—US), Mekeil Williams (OKC Energy FC—US), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers), Sheldon Bateau (Mechelen—Belgium), Ross Russell Jr (La Horquetta Rangers), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa—Costa Rica), Keston Julien (AS Trencin—Slovakia).

Midfielders:

Aaron Lester (Defence Force), Duane Muckette (Memphis 901 FC—US), Leston Paul (Memphis 901 FC—US), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence—US), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven—US), Andre Fortune (North Carolina—US), Levi Garcia (Beitar Jerusalem—Israel), Ataulla Guerra (Charleston Battery FC—US).

Forwards:

Daniel Carr (Apollon—Cyprus), Akeem Garcia (HFX Wanderers—Canada), Marcus Joseph (Gokulam Kerala—India).

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2019, 06:02:13 PM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2019, 06:30:22 PM »
4. Every game NOW counts for something?
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2019, 04:32:24 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



This guy had all the time to scout, recruit, and test new players in all those friendlies  but he did not ... dont be suprised if fortune comes on in the second half with 10 min remaining .. look how many times he called up julien and never play him . but he played ross russell  jr in a   crucial match .
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2019, 08:55:49 AM »
After that sick performance at home to boot,what can we expect from this TT team of "deplorables",they also seem to lack intelligence.It is safe to say that DL don't facking know what he is doing.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2019, 09:04:37 AM »
After that sick performance at home to boot,what can we expect from this TT team of "deplorables",they also seem to lack intelligence.It is safe to say that DL don't facking know what he is doing.

Yuh change yuh mind, eh. :) Benefit of the doubt gone?

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2019, 11:50:40 AM »
After that sick performance at home to boot,what can we expect from this TT team of "deplorables",they also seem to lack intelligence.It is safe to say that DL don't facking know what he is doing.

Yuh change yuh mind, eh. :) Benefit of the doubt gone?
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2019, 01:01:33 PM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



This guy had all the time to scout, recruit, and test new players in all those friendlies  but he did not ... dont be suprised if fortune comes on in the second half with 10 min remaining .. look how many times he called up julien and never play him . but he played ross russell  jr in a   crucial match .
spot on mate. this foolishman has a plaster for every cut. he had a winning formula but went and change it. we had our best results without these certain main stay defenders, bateau, david, mikel williams and marvin phillip. in every game where our defense looked organized Sol campbell was assisting in defense and Curtis gonzales started every game under sol.

now i have nothing against Sheldon bateau but the man is a very sloppy defender and i’ve been training my eyes on him of late. for someone who played in some of the better leagues around the world you should know that you don’t take chances when you’re the last defender who is being pressed by an attacker to be clever with the ball, you either back pass to your keeper or put the ball in the stands.

but on thursday he did just that almost resulting in a goal. in the previous game martinque had a free kick that was going out for a goal kick but he instead headed it right back across our goal and into play resulting in a goal for martinique. and if you go back to all the games we loss it was attributed to some primary school mistake that is unheard of in international football which leads me to believe that these guys are not of international quality and pedigree.

just take a look at alves Powell, damian lowe and Kemar lawrence, these men defend that goal and play every game like they’re playing for their lives. amateur mistakes like cyrus giving ellis the base line and allowing dengerous players time on the ball without a double team and putting dead balls back into play especially accross your goal mouth is almost never seen by concacaf’s top six team defenders.

dennis lawrence should not be allowed to experiment or get his feet wet with our senior team like latapy did. let him go back to the drawing board and give a more capable coach the opportunity. it’s quite clear that he does not know what the hell he’s doing.
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2019, 01:37:58 PM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



This guy had all the time to scout, recruit, and test new players in all those friendlies  but he did not ... dont be suprised if fortune comes on in the second half with 10 min remaining .. look how many times he called up julien and never play him . but he played ross russell  jr in a   crucial match .
i’m extremely puzzled and left scratching my head as to why this man still insist on local defenders especially when we don’t have a very active local league on at the moment, and there are defenders better trained and is quite active in their leagues in ryan inniss and noah powder who’s playing on a higher level?

it’s the same dynamic with greg ranjitsingh who has definitely shown an interest in representing us but is being overlooked for a has been goal keeper who is well known for not keeping a clean sheet. I just don’t get the logic it’s very warped thinking at best. my only hope is that Guyana don’t come knocking and he answers like in the case of Ricky shakes. that would be a terrible blow, and dennis would be gone by then doing his thing in europe somewhere. someone needs to intervene.
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2019, 05:38:20 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



This guy had all the time to scout, recruit, and test new players in all those friendlies  but he did not ... dont be suprised if fortune comes on in the second half with 10 min remaining .. look how many times he called up julien and never play him . but he played ross russell  jr in a   crucial match .
i’m extremely puzzled and left scratching my head as to why this man still insist on local defenders especially when we don’t have a very active local league on at the moment, and there are defenders better trained and is quite active in their leagues in ryan inniss and noah powder who’s playing on a higher level?

it’s the same dynamic with greg ranjitsingh who has definitely shown an interest in representing us but is being overlooked for a has been goal keeper who is well known for not keeping a clean sheet. I just don’t get the logic it’s very warped thinking at best. my only hope is that Guyana don’t come knocking and he answers like in the case of Ricky shakes. that would be a terrible blow, and dennis would be gone by then doing his thing in europe somewhere. someone needs to intervene.

Also we have bostock and nick delon if inerested still
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2019, 08:08:32 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



This guy had all the time to scout, recruit, and test new players in all those friendlies  but he did not ... dont be suprised if fortune comes on in the second half with 10 min remaining .. look how many times he called up julien and never play him . but he played ross russell  jr in a   crucial match .
i’m extremely puzzled and left scratching my head as to why this man still insist on local defenders especially when we don’t have a very active local league on at the moment, and there are defenders better trained and is quite active in their leagues in ryan inniss and noah powder who’s playing on a higher level?

it’s the same dynamic with greg ranjitsingh who has definitely shown an interest in representing us but is being overlooked for a has been goal keeper who is well known for not keeping a clean sheet. I just don’t get the logic it’s very warped thinking at best. my only hope is that Guyana don’t come knocking and he answers like in the case of Ricky shakes. that would be a terrible blow, and dennis would be gone by then doing his thing in europe somewhere. someone needs to intervene.

Also we have bostock
I doubt he want any part of this anymore.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2019, 10:25:48 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



A coach like  R Latapy would play Judah Garcia because that's his type of football or a coach like Z Vanes but coach's like D Lawrence S Hart and J Shabazz would not play him because they does play English football so the better technical players like S De Silva M W Ling and J Garcia go be sucking salt this rounds with these type of coach's  them men looking for a big strong black bloke.

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2019, 10:44:17 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



A coach like  R Latapy would play Judah Garcia because that's his type of football or a coach like Z Vanes but coach's like D Lawrence S Hart and J Shabazz would not play him because they does play English football so the better technical players like S De Silva M W Ling and J Garcia go be sucking salt this rounds with these type of coach's  them men looking for a big strong black bloke.

I concur with the conclusion, but not entirely with the reasoning. You will know why soon. Timely contribution as to the thrust of your point doh.

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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2019, 11:19:42 AM »
However, it has to be said that the idea of a coach selecting players on the basis of 'big, strong, black" plays into the worst of stereotype and caricature, reduces players to physical attribution only and ascribes no value to the quality and presence of their thought processes on the field of play.

In addition, if we consider the players who have played under Shabazz, under Hart or under Lawrence in advanced areas of the pitch ... who precisely fits the stereotype? Molino? No. It's not that absurd.
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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2019, 11:48:24 AM »
1. Why is Judah Garcia excluded? Lucrative prospect somewhere?

2. Who exactly is being tested in this squad of familiar faces?

3. What is John-Paul Rochford doing? He too busy for this dance? Or is it perception of his physique that is denying his inclusion? Because he certainly could have danced in Toluca.



A coach like  R Latapy would play Judah Garcia because that's his type of football or a coach like Z Vanes but coach's like D Lawrence S Hart and J Shabazz would not play him because they does play English football so the better technical players like S De Silva M W Ling and J Garcia go be sucking salt this rounds with these type of coach's  them men looking for a big strong black bloke.
In my opinion S Hart didn't play the English brand, I noticed more of a Spanish style under him. Could be wrong but that's what I observed. 

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2019, 11:49:36 AM »
However, it has to be said that the idea of a coach selecting players on the basis of 'big, strong, black" plays into the worst of stereotype and caricature, reduces players to physical attribution only and ascribes no value to the quality and presence of their thought processes on the field of play.

In addition, if we consider the players who have played under Shabazz, under Hart or under Lawrence in advanced areas of the pitch ... who precisely fits the stereotype? Molino? No. It's not that absurd.
In fact, I'd say it's exactly why Kenwyne was underappreciated. Because, to some, he was just 'big, strong, and black,' and they wanted speed and flash.

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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2019, 12:58:03 PM »
So we gats to beat Honduras or get a draw,impossible I say.The good Lord will have to be with us for either result...Inshallah.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2019, 03:55:56 PM »
The Conquering Lion of Judah shall break every chain.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2019, 03:58:29 PM »
The revolutionary starting XI is nothing close to being revolutionary.

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Re: Thread for Venezuela vs T&T (14-Oct-2019)
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2019, 04:02:55 PM »