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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #180 on: March 30, 2020, 02:02:10 AM »
My point is, so what if we can’t play WC for the next 10 or so years. If Fifa go so low , when our case is won, as to dismiss us as a member, it would only give us a chance to work on our development and continue to play regional tournaments. Better for both growth. We won’t be going a WC soon in the world state nor our own state, for quite sometime . Martinique (as reference of non-WC participants is all) does very well with what they have and do. How much stadia they have again ? France supports them, but they don’t spoil them. They work they tail off to be even get a sniff of travel. When we are ready and able to test ourselves against CFU and the odd Concacaf exhibition, with consistently positive results, on and OFF the field. Only then, if ppl want they can go beg Fifa to give us permission to show off, and let a few of us play with Villa and ManU.
Joke: doh ask meh how Villa and ManU come in this, eh Deeks . ;D ;D
Btw, How yuh making out with the virus? I imagine y’all on extra care and lock down. Hope everyone is fine. Only one of my club members in ICU so far, but not critical.

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #181 on: March 30, 2020, 09:10:02 AM »
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

How much does the arbitration cost ?
The ordinary procedure involves paying the relatively modest costs and fees of the arbitrators, calculated on the basis of a fixed scale of charges, plus a share of the costs of the CAS.

The disciplinary cases of an international nature ruled in appeal are free, except for an initial Court Office fee of CHF 1000.-.

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The parties may appear alone. They may also be represented or assisted at CAS hearings by a person of their choice, not necessarily a lawyer.
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« Reply #182 on: March 30, 2020, 09:25:18 AM »
Another good Colin Murray article.   :beermug:

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #183 on: March 30, 2020, 09:59:52 AM »
My point is, so what if we can’t play WC for the next 10 or so years. If Fifa go so low , when our case is won, as to dismiss us as a member, it would only give us a chance to work on our development and continue to play regional tournaments. Better for both growth. We won’t be going a WC soon in the world state nor our own state, for quite sometime . Martinique (as reference of non-WC participants is all) does very well with what they have and do. How much stadia they have again ? France supports them, but they don’t spoil them. They work they tail off to be even get a sniff of travel. When we are ready and able to test ourselves against CFU and the odd Concacaf exhibition, with consistently positive results, on and OFF the field. Only then, if ppl want they can go beg Fifa to give us permission to show off, and let a few of us play with Villa and ManU.
Joke: doh ask meh how Villa and ManU come in this, eh Deeks . ;D ;D
Btw, How yuh making out with the virus? I imagine y’all on extra care and lock down. Hope everyone is fine. Only one of my club members in ICU so far, but not critical.

I hunkered down inside. Working from home, until the "wise man" in the WH says he ready. But it appears it is going to be longer. But be safe Belmont Royalian!!!

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #184 on: March 30, 2020, 11:16:17 AM »
My point is, so what if we can’t play WC for the next 10 or so years. If Fifa go so low , when our case is won, as to dismiss us as a member, it would only give us a chance to work on our development and continue to play regional tournaments. Better for both growth. We won’t be going a WC soon in the world state nor our own state, for quite sometime . Martinique (as reference of non-WC participants is all) does very well with what they have and do. How much stadia they have again ? France supports them, but they don’t spoil them. They work they tail off to be even get a sniff of travel. When we are ready and able to test ourselves against CFU and the odd Concacaf exhibition, with consistently positive results, on and OFF the field. Only then, if ppl want they can go beg Fifa to give us permission to show off, and let a few of us play with Villa and ManU.
Joke: doh ask meh how Villa and ManU come in this, eh Deeks . ;D ;D
Btw, How yuh making out with the virus? I imagine y’all on extra care and lock down. Hope everyone is fine. Only one of my club members in ICU so far, but not critical.

I hunkered down inside. Working from home, until the "wise man" in the WH says he ready. But it appears it is going to be longer. But be safe Belmont Royalian!!!
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #185 on: March 30, 2020, 05:40:51 PM »
From an objective stand point , it would appear that WW was putting infrastructures in place to create a framework for a more cohesive national football program - even to having one of our  moderators as a " scout for talent,

These initiatives should not go  unnotice - The challenge with this framework was to how to effectively  implement, when a huge  dark cloud and burden of financial hardships continue to plague the operations of TTFA.

so as was mentioned by others-

A why could not FIFA work with the elected team to rectify the financial hardships
B- assist with the implementation of the infrastructure for a national overhaul to football programs?

This has to be an enigma of this whole process as it unfolded? The current Corvus situation is an opportune time to move with rectifying the financial side of things without being burden with mounting  operational cost

However what happens after the financial part is completed? What will the footballl infrastructure look like and is there a mechanism to transition the  former executive back in or does it require another sanctioned FIFA election?

I hope there is no former sports minister/ club owner hovering like a dog waiting for a bone.  We ought to have intellegient competent passionate football minded individuals who could lead us to a promise land and glory days of TnT football

To those former elected who have our football at heart- 5  ways to stay the course

Focus on Positive and on Purpose
Focus on the controllables
O pen up to the opportunity
Commit to purpose
Understand and practice Self Leadership
Saver the good

Doh waste good money on FIFA- ensure that there is a process to implementing a  sustainable framework for the development growth and succces on football in TnT and to all other blood suckers let dem haul  donkeys
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #186 on: March 31, 2020, 06:33:22 AM »
Wallace launches fund to challenge FIFA.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


It's now official. Former president of the T&T Football Association (TTFA) William Wallace will challenge FIFA's decision to remove him and his three vice president from elected office.

Wallace, the former president of the Secondary School League (SSFL) is calling on the nation to support he and his elected vice presidents stance to challenge the world governing body for the sport of football - FIFA through the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland, via a ‘go fund me’ campaign which was launched yesterday.

The campaign will require members of the public to contribute generously towards fighting the cause of injustice against FIFA, through the website (TTFAFights). Wallace together with vice presidents — Clynt Taylor, Joseph Sam Phillip and Susan Joseph-Warrick will be represented by sports attorneys Dr Emir Crowne and Matthew GW Gayle. The legal cost is estimated to be around TT$300,000 to $500,000.

After more than a week of deliberating on their next move, after the FIFA decided on March 17 to appoint a Normalisation Committee to run the affairs of T&T football, in accordance with articles 8.2 of its Statutes, Wallace and company in a strongly-worded letter released on Monday, said the actions of the FIFA were unwarranted and illegal and called on the public to cover the tremendous cost involved in fighting for the rights of the people of Trinidad and Tobago to have the normalization committee removed, and reinstate the democratically elected administration. Wallace and his attorneys have until April 8 to make their submission to CAS.

According to Wallace's release: “The legitimately elected officers of the T&T Football Association, democratically elected by the electorate in the presence of both FIFA and CONCACAF officials on 24 November 2019, wish to assure the people of our beloved country of our continuing rejection of FIFA’s unwarranted and illegal intervention into football in T&T. FIFA’s injustice is made all the more transparent by the fact that it failed, consistently, to intervene against the David John-Williams administration that operated and generated massive debt for four years with FIFA’s knowledge and supervision, through their annual audit.”

It added “It is ironic that after we assumed office and generated a report which pointed out the absence of any financial internal structures, that the report was sent back verbatim as one of the two reasons given for FIFA’s action. Moreover, based on recent information we are aware that FIFA’s intervention was premeditated and the implementation of this action commenced since we won the elections. The elected officers of TTFA advises the public that we will oppose FIFA’s injustice at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, Switzerland.”

“We need to be heard and that right is enshrined in the FIFA statutes that govern all Member Associations. Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable…every step towards the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering and struggle. The expense of this legal challenge is a tremendous obstacle but we are determined to fight for what is right, to defend democracy and the sovereign right of our people to determine our own affairs. To that end, we have created a “go fund me” campaign and are calling on all patriots to contribute to our national cause as generously as they can. Please visit (TTFAFights).”

However, Ramesh Ramdhan, the current general secretary of the TTFA, publicly outlined a debt-relief plan which Guardian newspapers published on March 21 which he said was given to a FIFA/CONCACAF auditing team which came on a fact-finding mission in February. The payment of the mounting TTFA $50 million-dollar debt was to be done via a multi-million-dollar partnership deal between the TTFA, UK Architecture firm Lavendar and the Arima Borough Corporation which were to embark on a state-of-the-art sporting, a commercial and residential facility in Arima.

Still, the FIFA was not convinced and sought to appoint businessman Robert Hadad to head its normalization committee, with his deputy being Environmental Attorney Judy Daniels, another businessman Nigel Romano, as well as two other members, to be appointed soon FIFA disclosed.

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Here is our story, on November 24, 2019, we (the United TTFA) won the Presidential election to become the governing body of the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association 26-20. The incumbent, David John-Williams in four years increased the debt to TT$50 million and left the association in financial ruin. During his time, FIFA President Gianni Infantino visited John-Williams three times in four years, with his last visit in early November before the elections when the Home of Football (which was illegally opened because it didn't meet codes and standards) opened.

Now, let’s fast forward to March 4, 2020. On this day which marked the first 100 days in office, our President William Wallace who ran his election on transparency, revealed to the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association stakeholders and supporters a detailed plan of how much debt we were in and how we were going to get out of it in the next two years. An extremely feasible plan based upon an audit that took place within the first month of office. After this press conference, FIFA officials traveled to Trinidad & Tobago and were happy that President Wallace and his team had provided a financial synopsis of where the TTFA stood. They said that they were happy because this was 50% of the work.

Less than two weeks later, March 17, 2020, FIFA refutes the financial synopsis and installs a normalization committee, meaning that they will develop a board of local Trinbagonians to take control of the TTFA. Originally, FIFA had appointed Tyril Patrick, an individual who was John-Williams' accountant during the four years of his presidency. Ten days later, on March 27, 2020, FIFA appointed Robert Hadad, Judy Daniel, and Nigel Romano as normalization committee members. On a local radio station, Hadad mentioned that he had been in talks with CONCACAF and FIFA for several weeks prior to his appointment, proof that all along FIFA had been plotting this normalization committee without consulting with the administration in office, the United TTFA. 

FIFA and Infantino have proven in this case that nothing has changed since the United States government took down Sepp Blatter and other officials in 2016. They oversaw the democratic election win of the United TTFA, but because John-Williams did not win, they decided to enforce draconian principles that are both immoral and illegal. Therefore, the United TTFA will take its case to the highest court of appeal.

We are raising funds on behalf of the United TTFA as the team is set to appeal FIFA's decision in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). A victory will be historic and could change the way that FIFA treats its 210 association members forever. We are David in the fight against Goliath but with your help we can appeal to the CAS to rescind FIFA's decision to re-instate the United TTFA to the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association executive board and amend its statutes for “normalization”.

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Here is the team who will battle FIFA in the Court of Arbitration for Sport:

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3rd Vice President - Sam Phillip

A small donation will help us reach our fundraising goal. And if you can't make a donation, then it would be great if you could share the fundraiser to help spread the word.

Thank you for your support of the United TTFA!

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #187 on: March 31, 2020, 07:13:47 AM »
Andre Baptiste take that drivel and shove it.
Ain't nobody swallowing that tripe

I haven't been listening to much talk radio since 2015.  After Kamla and dem I needed a break.  So I haven't been following "The Fearless One" much over the past five years or so.  I keep hearing that he eh so Fearless any more but I eh see or hear for mih self until this morning.  I happen to have the radio on I95.5 fm and caught his daily 7:25 am diatribe.  And all I could say was "well yes papa!!"  De man imploring fans and the wider public to support FIFA and the Normalisation committee!!  I nearly fall out mih chair!! 

So one more person to add to mih list of Firetrucks....

Firetruck De Used-to-be-Fearless One,

Firetruck FIFA,

firetruck dat Haddad guy,

Firetruck the Normalisation Commitee!!!   

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #188 on: March 31, 2020, 07:20:27 AM »
Hadad ready for TTFA challenge
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Who de fack is this Hadad guy?  Just so, just so he get ah phone call?  Nobody in the wider footballing public ever hear he name call but just so, just so he get a phone call??

Firetruck he yes!!   :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :banginghead:

Mih sistren Weary must be rolling over in she grave.....smh.....

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Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #189 on: March 31, 2020, 07:35:58 AM »
Well, there are two other patriots waiting in the wings ... de blaze eh start yet.

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« Reply #190 on: March 31, 2020, 08:37:01 AM »
Hadad ready for TTFA challenge
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Who de fack is this Hadad guy?  Just so, just so he get ah phone call?  Nobody in the wider footballing public ever hear he name call but just so, just so he get a phone call??

Firetruck he yes!!   :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :banginghead:

Mih sistren Weary must be rolling over in she grave.....smh.....



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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #191 on: March 31, 2020, 09:04:48 AM »
If Wallace and them can't come up with $500,000 thousand how will they run T&T football.

Not trying to be negative because ah like Wallace and company, but with this Chinese virus, no sponsors will come onboard because companies losing/lost a lot of money.

If they win de case, FIFA will ban them or refuse them the yearly grant.

They broke and will have plenty problems down de road.

Why they don't ask FIFA to call a truce and ask if they can be on the TTFA board with Hadad and company.

Everybody win here.

They have to remember is FIFA they fighting, a big organization and a crooked one who will find a win to win by the hook or the crook.

50M is a lot of money.

Take de money they getting from Lavender for the Arima Multi-purpose Sports Facility and fix de Home of Football instead, give LAVCON de wok and everybody win.

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« Reply #192 on: March 31, 2020, 09:10:26 AM »
 You ent see- FIFA must have purchased  data about everyone from  previous government. :rotfl: :rotfl: to just call up a man just so??? Like they think we chuppid to fall for dat?

On the other hand what kinda desperate move is dat to create a fund to support the fight against FIFA during this time when people losing jobs amidst this Corvid 19?

If FIFA want to pay debt - probably due to  in part from their lack of fiscal intervention when money running wild and people profiting and funds being diverted into pockets and deals being brokered- now when a local management putting some football infrastructure in place now they intervening with wanting to remove the governance?

Another nail at keeping the regions football at a level below others?  During this time all kinda bs moves happening . To WW team,  save yuh cash work at grassroots levels in communities throughout the country create a passion for football by and for the people let the donkeys bray- Leyden FIFA pay off the debt - while business slow now then when they pay dat off - then mount a case challenge for governance

Eh make sense fthrowing money yuh prove what is obvious to the public- mobilize the football organizations to follow the framework for development- build internal support - right now by going after FIFA the optics iappeats to be focusing on loss of leadership divert that energy and demonstrate that you are about the betterment of TnT football.

Bring back regional rivalries  drum up communities to follow and support teams - let some of them power hungry pro league e ecutives who want political office haul arse you ent see how they braying on the outside

In my opinion at this time the game the players have the biggest stake in the future of our game not TTFA not anyone of the detractors- If money in a fu d could be generated to foster the development and support player development that will speak volumes - this TTFA versus FIFA  ought not to be the main focus

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« Reply #193 on: March 31, 2020, 10:24:18 AM »
Take a read forumites > The Panama papers / sports illustrated article Fifa scandal the article is a few years ago / see if any  name looks familiar ?  Hmm . Draw your own conclusions

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« Reply #194 on: March 31, 2020, 02:06:08 PM »
Take a read forumites > The Panama papers / sports illustrated article Fifa scandal the article is a few years ago / see if any  name looks familiar ?  Hmm . Draw your own conclusions

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« Reply #195 on: March 31, 2020, 04:08:01 PM »
Quite a few articles  you'll find , simple search will do ...... Just type on ur device > Panama papers Fifa scandal / Uefa office raided .

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #196 on: April 01, 2020, 08:07:56 AM »
CFA boss supports FIFA's Normalisation Committee.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


Shymdeo Gosine, president of the Central Football Association (CFA), has come out in support of the FIFA’s Normalisation Committee running the affairs of T&T football.

The Central businessman, who has made an immediate impact with his involvement into the sport a few years ago at the CFA level, told Guardian Media Sports on Tuesday he believes the ousted executives of former president William Wallace and vice presidents Susan Joseph-Warrick, Sam Phillip and Clynt Taylor, who is the general secretary at the CFA, will not receive any support from the people of T&T to accumulate the money needed to attempt to convince the world governing body for football, FIFA, to rescind its decision to implement a normalisation committee to govern local football.

“Just watch and you will see for yourself, they will not get any support,” Gosine said.

The disbanded executives of the TTFA, through former president Wallace on Monday, issued a release to the media confirming their decision to fight against what they consider to be injustice and unfairness by the FIFA through the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) in Lausanne Switzerland.

Wallace and his vice president estimated that they will need between $300,000 to $500,000 for their Attorneys Dr Emir Crowne and Matthew Gayle to fight the case and is calling on members of the public to give generously via its website (TTFAFights).

FIFA, on March 17, agreed to appoint a normalisation committee in charge of local football, believing the then Wallace-led TTFA which had been in office less than three months, was facing insolvency due to a claim by the former executive of a debt of approximately $50 million which it inherited from previous administrations. But despite attempts to prevent the FIFA from going through with its plan, the sport’s governing body ignored a plight from the TTFA and appointed the members of the normalisation committee, which comprises of businessman and chairman Robert Hadad who is a director of the HADCO Group of Companies, his deputy Judy Daniels who is a specialist in Environment Law and banker Nigel Romano, an executive and partner of Moore T&T.

In a release, FIFA also explained that two other members of the committee will be chosen over the coming days, after consultation with the CONCACAF.

Yesterday, Gosine said he believes the Wallace-led administration may have blundered by its decision to close the now controversial Home of Football which FIFA itself had approved.

“That was probably one of the many mistakes that were made by the members of that administration, none of whom attended the grand opening of the facility in Balmain, Couva, and featured Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, CONCACAF president Victor Mantagliani and FIFA president Gianni Infantino, among many others. The Home of Football was built to generate income but the Wallace administration closed it and had no revenue streams but the FIFA,” Gosine said.

According to the central football boss, the TTFA later made several appointments with no money to pay them while promises of lucrative contracts to help the sport have never materialised. Gosine said he doesn’t know if the Wallace-led administration at the time had the capabilities to run the affairs of local football.

He said, "I, the President of the Central Football Association, want to welcome the decision made by FIFA to put a normalizing committee in place to regularize our football. The proclamation made by the team that was given the mandate had too many pies in the sky."

Gosine who contested the November 24, 2019, TTFA election as a vice president on the slate of Richard Ferguson, believes FIFA is the best choice to revive local football, saying after the two years, Wallace and is members can decide to re-contest the elections for a second time, and might just be in a better position to run the sport. Quizzed as to whether he will consider contesting elections when it is called, Gosine said he could not answer that at present but he does feel that he has a lot to offer T&T football still.

Meanwhile, the T&T Pro League is also in support of FIFA's decision, while the T&T Super League, the North Zone, T&T Football Referees Association (T&TFRA) and the T&T American Youth Soccer Organisation have thrown their support behind the former President.

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« Reply #197 on: April 01, 2020, 08:24:54 AM »
why do they need between 300 & 500 K ? The lawyers really charging that minimum ? besides that being a wide gap ! This isn't no big court case where knowledge of international law is required, just international common sense. Even Wallace and Ramdhan can represent. Case won't be called until travel restrictions are relaxed anyway. Flight & Hotel meals 1 week, max $3000 cad/person. Retention/loss of work/stipend : $2000 cad/person = , Court clothes : 1000 cad/person. ~60 K TT total.
" modest fees" can't be 240 K TT- 50 k cad ? so is that lawyer fee.
Shouldn't drink champagne when yuh only have beer money. It's quite possible I don't know the ins and outs, willing to learn.
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

How much does the arbitration cost ?
The ordinary procedure involves paying the relatively modest costs and fees of the arbitrators, calculated on the basis of a fixed scale of charges, plus a share of the costs of the CAS.

The disciplinary cases of an international nature ruled in appeal are free, except for an initial Court Office fee of CHF 1000.-.

Can one be represented during the proceedings ?
The parties may appear alone. They may also be represented or assisted at CAS hearings by a person of their choice, not necessarily a lawyer.
What is CAS mediation ?
Mediation is a non-binding and informal procedure, based on a mediation agreement in which each party undertakes to attempt in good faith to negotiate with the other party, and with the assistance of a CAS mediator, with a view to settling a sports-related dispute.­

What about Ambassadors Shaka and Dwight, they already decline ?
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« Reply #198 on: April 01, 2020, 11:37:11 AM »
TTFA battle with FIFA could hurt region
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The Football Community in the region needs the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) to put their house in order as their actions could affect all the other member associations.

This was the sentiments of veteran Sports Administrator Adrian Donovan recently.

Donovan said he has had the pleasure and sometimes the challenges with working with the likes of Jack Warner and some of the best administrators and footballers seen this part of the world.

At present the TTFA is engaged in a battle with the world governing body FIFA and, according to Donovan, it seems all the odds are stacked against the TTFA.
“Trinidad football over the years has been looked up to by all of us in the Caribbean because they presented outstanding players who stood tall above any others.

“It is a sad reflection to see the tribulations that occurred under the Jack Warner regime come back to haunt us but in a different form and fashion.”

The TTFA has engaged the services of two lawyers with the intention of taking their grievance to the court of arbitration. They have all right to as it has been proven that no international sporting federation can supersede the law of the land.

However, any exercise to challenge FIFA can be an extremely expensive undertaking. At present a number of the TTFA executive members have started a fundraising campaign hoping to raise at least a half million TT dollars to champion their cause.

Donovan cannot believe that taking into consideration what is happening with this deadly COVID-19 virus pandemic where people are suffering, that fundraising activities like this will get off the ground.

“Citizens all through the region, including Trinidad and Tobago, have lost their jobs and businesses have closed its doors. It is seemingly unheard of that with so many trials and tribulations at work in all of our countries, that people could actually come up with an idea like this one.”

T&T for years have gained so much respect for not only representing the Caribbean at a World Cup, but also for the quality of their players who can be seen playing up until recently in different leagues all over the world.

Donovan believes that the damage has already been done and the credibility of football in Trinidad should be of utmost importance for those in charge.

“With a debt of over TT$ 50 million and rising the normalization committee set up by FIFA is the best way to go as the game is bigger than any of us.”

Donovan stated that they cannot afford to let the sport come to a standstill.

The normalization committee which FIFA continues to put in place in associations that have problems have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to put their respective troubled associations on the right path.

Donovan went on to say that it cannot be business as usual and the first thing that the committee will have to do is conduct a forensic audit as the debt will continue to rise beyond imagination.

“FIFA will dictate how certain things will go and contracts and agreements may suffer terminations but at the end of it all the image of the TTFA must be restored.”

Donovan noted that a fair and democratic AGM has to be held and everyone will be given a chance to put their hat in the ring for the newly elected board.

“The Caribbean football fraternity which I am sure the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) are too will support any new TTFA that is put in place.”(CG)
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #199 on: April 01, 2020, 12:57:33 PM »
In its dealing with the T&TFA… FIFA is worse than COVID–19.
By Neville Ferguson (sunshinetodaytt).


Is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association still be­ing punished because of the tsunami Jack Warner caused to descend on FIFA, toppling its big brass and virtually bringing the once-powerful organization to its knees?

This is a question many are ask­ing ever since the FIFA declared its intention to appoint a Normali­sation Committee to run the affairs of the TTFA for a period not to ex­ceed the maximum of two years.

For connoisseurs in the know, this decision is fraught with bias and prejudice; and the level of in­justice on display raises questions as to whether this world body could ever be trusted to do the right thing even when the whole world is watching!

Over the past decade, the in­tegrity of the leadership of this Zurich-based world organization was shattered as exposé after exposé brought FIFA to its knees. After the dust was cleared and the allegations were allowed to run their course, the truth that evolved was the connivance and wickedness of the leaders of FIFA who believed that each possessed a monopoly to deter­mine how world football is to be
run.

Even potential leaders, heirs ap­parent and designated survivors who were earmarked for the Pres­idential throne saw their dreams transformed into nightmares for the wrong they sought to inflict on one who sought nothing but to advance the cause of the beautiful game we call football.

Now many are watching FIFA’s new machinations as yet another attempt to punish Trinidad and Tobago because it failed to suc­cessfully bring Jack Warner to his knees in utter humiliation.

The reason for this new attack, according to FIFA, is an attempt to restore governance and finan­cial stability to an Association that competed in five FIFA World Cups in different divisions. The crowning glory was our appear­ance at the FIFA Men’s World Cup, Germany 2006.

The FIFA argued that this As­sociation with a history of 112 years, one that hosted two FIFA World Cups in the junior catego­ries, was characterized as having “extremely low overall financial management methods, combined with a massive debt”, which left the local body “facing a very real risk of insolvency and illiquidity”.

The punishment, according to FIFA’s justice, was the removal of the duly elected management team of three months; the ap­pointment of a Normalisation Committee; and the appoint­ment of a caretaker to overseer the day-to-day operations of the TTFA until the Normalisation Committee is selected and in­stalled.

Justice and Fair Play are alien to FIFA

It is here that the FIFA showed its dirty feet and demonstrated to the global village that justice and fair play are alien to that organisa­tion; and that regardless who sits at the helm, the FIFA is not afraid to run afoul and commit the most heinous offences in its aim to get what the FIFA wants.

The first thing that must be understood is that the current President of the T&TFA, William Wallace, who is being run out of office, won the TTFA elections on 24 November 2019 beating the then incumbent David John-Williams by a 26 – 20 victory margin.

The truth is that the FIFA never supported William Wal­lace and the shock of his victory hit them hard because in their wildest imagination the FIFA never believed that their boy John-Williams could have been defeated.

FIFA pulled every trick out of the book to help David John-Williams

They heavily funded a home for football and ensured that the opening took place before the TTFA elections no doubt to tilt the votes in his favor.

But that was not enough. At­tending the opening was FIFA’s President Gianni Infantino, CONCACAF President Victor Montagliani and FIFA Founda­tion CEO Youri Djorkaeff; the team from the FIFA was send­ing a clear message that John-Williams was their boy.

The rhetoric on the podium was clear as Infantino pub­licly thanked John-Williams whom he affably called David for “dreaming it all, for speak­ing it all, for believing in it, for fighting for it. And for making it happen.”

This was open politics, not poli­tics of stealth as he pronounced, “I came to Trinidad and Tobago, and I was not believing to find some­body like [David] in Trinidad and Tobago. I have to say the truth. Because Trinidad and Tobago Football Association were more or less in the same state as FIFA at that time” a state he referred to as shambles.

And he continued “We found a Federation which was under the earth, TTFA; Trinidad and Tobago Football, very sadly, was in the headlines for other rea­sons than football, even though linked to football but today, we are here, and proud to be here, because today, Trinidad and To­bago is the capital of the world of
football.”

Never in Infantino’s wildest dreams or carefree imaginations did he think that after reigning such platitudes on David John-Williams, that the minions who were imbued with the power to vote in the next TTFA President would have gone against his wish­es and vote in favor of the new kid on the block much to the chagrin of the FIFA; William Wallace was not the pawn that they could con­trol.

Mischief was set afoot

And so mischief was set afoot; the door needed to be reopened for Infantino’s boy David John-Williams once again to ascend the throne together with his side-kick Selby Browne. So the only legitimate way was to railroad Wallace’s presidency, set up a Normalisation Committee and ban Wallace and every member of his team from ever contesting another TTFA election. What is mind boggling is that three months ago, the TTFA that was described as similar to FIFA, a TTFA that made this country the capital of the world of football, now became so saddled with debt that the FIFA has to invoke Article 8 Paragraph 2 of the FIFA Statutes to protect the organisation and development of football in this country and put corrective measures in place.

The financial situation to which the FIFA spoke was in­debtedness close to 50 million dollars. But the question that Infantino and his boys must now answer is how come a Nor­malisation Committee was not set up when John-Williams was the President because there is no way that Wallace could have accrued such a debt in a paltry three months, the period of time he has held office as President. How come?

The T&TFA should not look to the Caribbean Football Union for any help since the vast majority of its members out of sheer envy will be silently happy over the po­sition of T&TFA faces today. In addition, the President of CFU, Barbadian Randy Harris, is on the payroll of FIFA and CONCACAF and who pays the football Piper call the tune – no CFU support for the T&TFA. That, however, should not discourage the T&TFA in their fight for justice and respect.

Isn’t the bias against Wallace too overtly brazen?

Isn’t the FIFA’s perception that it is a law unto itself clearly the cloud that has resulted in the myo­picism that now causes it to steer down an authoritarian road to bring the institute into disrepute once again?

Somebody with their lurid imagination prefaced the name of Jack Warner as the bedrock for the success of the Wallace team and Infantino probably saw the oppor­tunity to drink tea for Blatter’s fe­ver, but Wallace has decided and openly declared that the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will have the last say.

FIFA has underestimated the resolve of Wallace and underes­timated the pride of the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Infan­tino has appropriated a grandiose perception of himself that does not exist. The people of this country prefer to see the beau­tiful game die in this country than to allow Massa Day to ever
return.

Justice is all that Trinidad and Tobago Football Association demands and as long as John-Williams or his minion’s railroad the wishes of the football fra­ternity, justice will never pre­vail and FIFA will once again begin its slow march towards ignominy.

In fighting Covid-19, the T&TFA will surely be fighting FIFA.

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #200 on: April 01, 2020, 11:04:08 PM »
In its dealing with the T&TFA… FIFA is worse than COVID–19.
By Neville Ferguson (sunshinetodaytt).


Is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association still be­ing punished because of the tsunami Jack Warner caused to descend on FIFA, toppling its big brass and virtually bringing the once-powerful organization to its knees?

This is a question many are ask­ing ever since the FIFA declared its intention to appoint a Normali­sation Committee to run the affairs of the TTFA for a period not to ex­ceed the maximum of two years.

For connoisseurs in the know, this decision is fraught with bias and prejudice; and the level of in­justice on display raises questions as to whether this world body could ever be trusted to do the right thing even when the whole world is watching!

Over the past decade, the in­tegrity of the leadership of this Zurich-based world organization was shattered as exposé after exposé brought FIFA to its knees. After the dust was cleared and the allegations were allowed to run their course, the truth that evolved was the connivance and wickedness of the leaders of FIFA who believed that each possessed a monopoly to deter­mine how world football is to be
run.

Even potential leaders, heirs ap­parent and designated survivors who were earmarked for the Pres­idential throne saw their dreams transformed into nightmares for the wrong they sought to inflict on one who sought nothing but to advance the cause of the beautiful game we call football.

Now many are watching FIFA’s new machinations as yet another attempt to punish Trinidad and Tobago because it failed to suc­cessfully bring Jack Warner to his knees in utter humiliation.

The reason for this new attack, according to FIFA, is an attempt to restore governance and finan­cial stability to an Association that competed in five FIFA World Cups in different divisions. The crowning glory was our appear­ance at the FIFA Men’s World Cup, Germany 2006.

The FIFA argued that this As­sociation with a history of 112 years, one that hosted two FIFA World Cups in the junior catego­ries, was characterized as having “extremely low overall financial management methods, combined with a massive debt”, which left the local body “facing a very real risk of insolvency and illiquidity”.

The punishment, according to FIFA’s justice, was the removal of the duly elected management team of three months; the ap­pointment of a Normalisation Committee; and the appoint­ment of a caretaker to overseer the day-to-day operations of the TTFA until the Normalisation Committee is selected and in­stalled.

Justice and Fair Play are alien to FIFA

It is here that the FIFA showed its dirty feet and demonstrated to the global village that justice and fair play are alien to that organisa­tion; and that regardless who sits at the helm, the FIFA is not afraid to run afoul and commit the most heinous offences in its aim to get what the FIFA wants.

The first thing that must be understood is that the current President of the T&TFA, William Wallace, who is being run out of office, won the TTFA elections on 24 November 2019 beating the then incumbent David John-Williams by a 26 – 20 victory margin.

The truth is that the FIFA never supported William Wal­lace and the shock of his victory hit them hard because in their wildest imagination the FIFA never believed that their boy John-Williams could have been defeated.

FIFA pulled every trick out of the book to help David John-Williams

They heavily funded a home for football and ensured that the opening took place before the TTFA elections no doubt to tilt the votes in his favor.

But that was not enough. At­tending the opening was FIFA’s President Gianni Infantino, CONCACAF President Victor Montagliani and FIFA Founda­tion CEO Youri Djorkaeff; the team from the FIFA was send­ing a clear message that John-Williams was their boy.

The rhetoric on the podium was clear as Infantino pub­licly thanked John-Williams whom he affably called David for “dreaming it all, for speak­ing it all, for believing in it, for fighting for it. And for making it happen.”

This was open politics, not poli­tics of stealth as he pronounced, “I came to Trinidad and Tobago, and I was not believing to find some­body like [David] in Trinidad and Tobago. I have to say the truth. Because Trinidad and Tobago Football Association were more or less in the same state as FIFA at that time” a state he referred to as shambles.

And he continued “We found a Federation which was under the earth, TTFA; Trinidad and Tobago Football, very sadly, was in the headlines for other rea­sons than football, even though linked to football but today, we are here, and proud to be here, because today, Trinidad and To­bago is the capital of the world of
football.”

Never in Infantino’s wildest dreams or carefree imaginations did he think that after reigning such platitudes on David John-Williams, that the minions who were imbued with the power to vote in the next TTFA President would have gone against his wish­es and vote in favor of the new kid on the block much to the chagrin of the FIFA; William Wallace was not the pawn that they could con­trol.

Mischief was set afoot

And so mischief was set afoot; the door needed to be reopened for Infantino’s boy David John-Williams once again to ascend the throne together with his side-kick Selby Browne. So the only legitimate way was to railroad Wallace’s presidency, set up a Normalisation Committee and ban Wallace and every member of his team from ever contesting another TTFA election. What is mind boggling is that three months ago, the TTFA that was described as similar to FIFA, a TTFA that made this country the capital of the world of football, now became so saddled with debt that the FIFA has to invoke Article 8 Paragraph 2 of the FIFA Statutes to protect the organisation and development of football in this country and put corrective measures in place.

The financial situation to which the FIFA spoke was in­debtedness close to 50 million dollars. But the question that Infantino and his boys must now answer is how come a Nor­malisation Committee was not set up when John-Williams was the President because there is no way that Wallace could have accrued such a debt in a paltry three months, the period of time he has held office as President. How come?

The T&TFA should not look to the Caribbean Football Union for any help since the vast majority of its members out of sheer envy will be silently happy over the po­sition of T&TFA faces today. In addition, the President of CFU, Barbadian Randy Harris, is on the payroll of FIFA and CONCACAF and who pays the football Piper call the tune – no CFU support for the T&TFA. That, however, should not discourage the T&TFA in their fight for justice and respect.

Isn’t the bias against Wallace too overtly brazen?

Isn’t the FIFA’s perception that it is a law unto itself clearly the cloud that has resulted in the myo­picism that now causes it to steer down an authoritarian road to bring the institute into disrepute once again?

Somebody with their lurid imagination prefaced the name of Jack Warner as the bedrock for the success of the Wallace team and Infantino probably saw the oppor­tunity to drink tea for Blatter’s fe­ver, but Wallace has decided and openly declared that the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will have the last say.

FIFA has underestimated the resolve of Wallace and underes­timated the pride of the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Infan­tino has appropriated a grandiose perception of himself that does not exist. The people of this country prefer to see the beau­tiful game die in this country than to allow Massa Day to ever
return.

Justice is all that Trinidad and Tobago Football Association demands and as long as John-Williams or his minion’s railroad the wishes of the football fra­ternity, justice will never pre­vail and FIFA will once again begin its slow march towards ignominy.

In fighting Covid-19, the T&TFA will surely be fighting FIFA.
very objective article, but the reality is that fifa did not underestimate the pride of the people of trinidad and tobago because the majority of them are in favor of the fifa normalization scheme. the people of Trinidad and Tobago does not deserve this kind of credit because the majority of them are cowards and seldom make sacrifices for the greater good.

The one i do think that they underestimated was lok loy. that half chinese just might be the death of this present FIFA administration if they have anything to hide. I hate it when trinis ride on an age old temperament  that does not exist anymore.

Once upon a time trinbagonians was a force to recon with, we were fearless and capable, but today there’s a bunch of self serving jelly belly easy going party animals cry cry suck finger toddlers who don’t possess a lick of pride.

so far all I’ve seen of our people is congrats for the fifa take over, and this article and the weired 888 articles are the only set of journalistic pieces that are in support of the stand off. I certainly support the embattled ttfa, we’ve waited three years to rid ourselves of that fat ugly sell out, and now that we have, I’m not in favor of fifa putting us back in that position.
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #201 on: April 02, 2020, 05:05:47 AM »
This articles says that fifa has banned wallace and every member of his team from ever contesting another election, tell me it’s not so?

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« Reply #202 on: April 02, 2020, 05:40:39 AM »
This articles says that fifa has banned wallace and every member of his team from ever contesting another election, tell me it’s not so?

That raised an eyebrow. I'm treating it as being a defective statement. Prepare the camel; that would be the straw.
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T&T coaches not surprised by FIFA's action
« Reply #203 on: April 02, 2020, 06:17:33 AM »
T&T coaches not surprised by FIFA's action
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian)


It is believed FIFA's intervention into local football through a Normalisation Committee, may or may not be a blessing in disguise.

The normalisation committee was implemented on March 17 by the world governing body for football, FIFA, after it felt the financial position of the T&T Football Association (TTFA) hinged on it being insolvent. Since then three out of five members of the committee were chosen, despite desperate calls to rescind the committee as the former TTFA executive decides to challenge FIFA through Court of Administration for Sports (CAS) in Switzerland through attorneys Dr Emir Crowne and Matthew Gayle.

In a response to the implementation of the normalisation committee, three football coaches including Brian Williams, an former Strike Squad defender and national Under-20 coach, Shawn Cooper, a former national Under-17 coach who also led Presentation College (San Fernando) to its first Coca Cola National InterCol title last year, and Lyndon Andrews, a coach at Arima North Secondary, believe the committee could be a blessing, once it can turn T&T's football fortunes around.

Williams told Guardian Media Sports it is no secret that the sport has been struggling in all areas for some time now and something has to be done to revive it.

"The FIFA is the world governing body for the sport and if it feels that the sport here is not being run as it should be and they want to assist, then so be it," Williams explained.

He said that members of the public have been left in the dark concerning what has been taking place in the sport, saying one day you hear about the Home of Football being an income-generator, and the next thing, it cannot be used for the purpose that it was constructed for.

"I just want to see football being run the right way. I want to see coaches being allowed to coach and be paid for it. I want to see the huge TTFA debt liquidated completely, players allowed to play and the national teams competitive once more. Right now there is no motivation. There's no prize money for competition and players cannot make a living from plying their trade, etc."

Williams also sympathised with the William Wallace-led TTFA, noting that with only three months in office, it was very little that could have done.

Meanwhile, Andrews who has been one of this country’s creative midfielders from the youth to senior levels, made it clear a normalisation committee in T&T football was needed a long time now, even in the Jack Warner days.

"Unfortunately, the committee came during the Wallace-led administration, but it was needed in David John-Williams, Raymond Tim Kee and in the times of Jack Warner because for all those times our football had been in the red. It is necessary now because our football has been going backwards. We need our football to move forward again and I believe the normalisation committee will put us on that path,” Andrews said.

“When John-Williams came in, everyone thought he would have rescued us by clearing the debt but instead our football sunk further into debt. Now while Wallace team may have ideas, we are not sure. What is important for us now is to ensure that our football gets back on track.”

In February officials of the FIFA and CONCACAF visited the TTFA on a fact-finding mission which including examing the TTFA books to determine what plans to implement going forward to eradicate the claimed $50 million debt. And soon after it (FIFA) confirmed this in a letter, by stating further that the TTFA appeared to be facing insolvency.

Meanwhile, Cooper, who was overlooked for a coaching position under the former president Wallace said the implementation of the committee was inevitable.

"It is sad we cannot run our affairs but it was always incoming. We have had a problem with our debt, not only now but under Jack Warner, Raymond Tim Kee, David John-Williams and now William Wallace. Some people believe the committee should have come before. However, once it can ensure that crowds would come out at the Pro League matches or if the debt will be paid or if clubs will be self-sustainable at the end of the two years then it will be worth the while," Cooper said.

The FIFA normalisation committee is led by businessman Robert Hadad as chairman with attorney Judy Daniel and deputy chairman and retired banker Nigel Ramano as member.

Meanwhile, Wallace, the former president of the Secondary School League (SSFL) is calling on the nation to support he and his elected vice presidents to challenge the world governing body for the sport of football - FIFA through the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland, via a ‘go fund me’ campaign which was launched on Monday.

The campaign will require members of the public to contribute generously towards fighting the cause of injustice against FIFA, through the website (TTFAFights). Wallace together with vice presidents — Clynt Taylor, Joseph Sam Phillip and Susan Joseph-Warrick will be represented by sports attorneys Dr Emir Crowne and Matthew GW Gayle. The legal cost is estimated to be around TT$300,000 to $500,000. The deadline for the challenge to be registered is April 7.

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« Reply #204 on: April 02, 2020, 06:32:49 AM »
I wanted to abbreviate the post but ended up cutting off the link.  Will fix later.

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very objective article, but the reality is that fifa did not underestimate the pride of the people of trinidad and tobago because the majority of them are in favor of the fifa normalization scheme. the people of Trinidad and Tobago does not deserve this kind of credit because the majority of them are cowards and seldom make sacrifices for the greater good.

The one i do think that they underestimated was lok loy. that half chinese just might be the death of this present FIFA administration if they have anything to hide. I hate it when trinis ride on an age old temperament  that does not exist anymore.

Once upon a time trinbagonians was a force to recon with, we were fearless and capable, but today there’s a bunch of self serving jelly belly easy going party animals cry cry suck finger toddlers who don’t possess a lick of pride.

so far all I’ve seen of our people is congrats for the fifa take over, and this article and the weired 888 articles are the only set of journalistic pieces that are in support of the stand off. I certainly support the embattled ttfa, we’ve waited three years to rid ourselves of that fat ugly sell out, and now that we have, I’m not in favor of fifa putting us back in that position.

In T&T, there are several citizens with private convictions but no public courage, in a land of self-censorship, especially when anonymity is not the currency. Then, there are others who are eager to present malleable opinions - some boisterously, others in even tones. Unfortunately, much of that opinion is devoid of factual or contextual support.

There are others whose opinions are barometers of the personal convenience, realities and status quo they wish to create - rather than of the totality of the truth found in the present.  And, there are others whose trafficable currency is not anonymity but cash. Those in that category are blinded by anything else.

But, there is another currency that we have more of than is commonly understood: ignorance. Ignorance, combined with the way in which the society is stratified, is a perpetual orgasm for some of the participants - but not others - in a metaphorical orgy of coitus sans the interruptus. To be sure, the non-satisficing participants are not friends with the "happy enders" and they are definitely not benefiting, sowing or reaping.

In the history of the world, a lack of mutuality is never a permanently winning proposition. What makes the above-referenced ingredients transform from a virginal beverage to a cocktail is time. Time is not on our side.
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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #205 on: April 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AM »
The word is "normalise". Not paradise.

It's curious that there is a view that a NC will vest us with manna from heaven. That's a twisted narrative for several reasons. Of course,  the genius of normalisation would explain why Pakistan is on its third NC.  ::)

Normalisation won't ever trump root and branch transformation, but we can be deluded into believing that the objective here is root and branch transformation. It isn't.

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #206 on: April 02, 2020, 08:53:11 AM »
in a metaphorical orgy of coitus sans the interruptus. To be sure, the non-satisficing participants are not friends with the "happy enders"

Dude, you watching too much Big Bang Theory.

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« Reply #207 on: April 02, 2020, 09:26:47 AM »
in a metaphorical orgy of coitus sans the interruptus. To be sure, the non-satisficing participants are not friends with the "happy enders"

Dude, you watching too much Big Bang Theory.

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Re: FIFA appoints normalisation committee for Trinidad and Tobago football
« Reply #208 on: April 02, 2020, 10:55:48 AM »
The word is "normalise". Not paradise.

It's curious that there is a view that a NC will vest us with manna from heaven. That's a twisted narrative for several reasons. Of course,  the genius of normalisation would explain why Pakistan is on its third NC.  ::)

Normalisation won't ever trump root and branch transformation, but we can be deluded into believing that the objective here is root and branch transformation. It isn't.

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« Reply #209 on: April 03, 2020, 11:28:32 AM »
The word is "normalise". Not paradise.

It's curious that there is a view that a NC will vest us with manna from heaven. That's a twisted narrative for several reasons. Of course,  the genius of normalisation would explain why Pakistan is on its third NC.  ::)

Normalisation won't ever trump root and branch transformation, but we can be deluded into believing that the objective here is root and branch transformation. It isn't.

Manna with Kool Aid? Not hungry.
never mind those idiots who’s all smiles that alas fifa has heard our cry from on high and has left their lofty towers to investigate the two drunks fighting at the mote, while the palace guards share jokes.

I’ve got to reiterate how very disappointed i am with the so called football fraternity in trinidad and tobago, no wonder DJW got 20 out of 46 votes. listening to familiar voices ala sancho, Brian williams and many more stand outs in TT football circles was enough shock to light a small village in rural toco, to know that they could not differentiate between AJW, raymond timkee, DJW and the United TTFA was either disingenuous or total naivety on their part.

I could only guess that just maybe DJW was, or is on friendly terms with these obvious critics of a 3 month old federation, so therefore the wind of apprehension to call a spade a spade was not forthcoming with these yes men.

I have maintained that this here is the only reason why TT football is still, and has remained in the doldrums all these decades, it’s because of all the hungry dogs under the master’s table for years waiting and hoping that a substantial bone would fall their way, and neglecting to understand the reason why they are involved in football in the first place.

at this point all we could do is hope and pray that God on high would be merciful and put a stop to these obvious impediments to trinidad and tobago football once and for all eliminating all fungus and parasites from our beloved sport leaving it in the hands of caring capable insightful people, who IMO just might be this united  TTFA, and keep men like Brent Sancho and DJW and his accomplices very very far from our football. at this point it’s out of our hands forumites, all we could do now is pray and hope that God hears us.

 

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