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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2021, 08:53:28 AM »
Embarrassing! Depressing! Sickening! Shameful!
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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2021, 09:34:39 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2021, 09:40:24 AM »
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Dear members of the Normalization-committee, please revive rage following submission: then kindly request a refund of 20 K US per month retroactive on the inception of the clandestine agreement

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youíre not gonna stop are you? tell us exactly how long you intend to carry on with this charade? the man failed mate we know and we all saw, yeh heís getting good money and he stumbled fine we got it boss, please donít make yourself as annoying as controversial i beg yuh mate.

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« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2021, 10:05:48 AM »
Embarrassing! Depressing! Sickening! Shameful!
Iím hoping that youíre referring to the federation and their many years of bending football over a barrel with warner/camps and their awful shenanigans coupled with the abject failure of DJW who wanted to pick up where mr warner left off.

Iím hoping that youíre referring to the poor league that we had to work with forever, a league straddled with debt and cannot function without government subventions. a league that fail to market itself to do the very minimum, fill seats at match venues. a league that could not recognize that we play this game at snails pace and our fitness level is as poor as it gets. a league who refused to bring the game back into the communities to boost attendance instead of playing home games 20 miles away in a 30,000 seating capacity stadium.

in a nut shell mate these lads are the victims here, they simply have no quality and are asked to do things beyond their scope, and poor coaching did not get us here neither. I saw the nations cup finals last night and just the technical ability of the Americans and Mexicans alone surpasses us by decades, never mind fitness, these guys are light years ahead of us it ainít funny.

IMO situations like drawing to the bahamas happens in football, after all they didnít out play us, they didnít dominate possession they didnít score, they simply parked the buss and we failed to convert our chances. hey shit happens. better luck next time.
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« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2021, 10:10:02 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal. 


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Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2021, 10:22:36 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

Time doesn't permit me to delve into this right now, but you do realize that you are selectively comparing coaches that took teams to the WC  with a coach who hasn't and hasn't come remotely close to the penultimate round of qualifying and who will never take a team to a WC, correct?

Scolari also recently plunged Cruzeiro, but that doesn't help your case either because we have seen him at his best and it should never have been injected into this conversation. Klinsman? One of this strengths was having reliable advisors to whom he listened. Guess who doh listen or learn from the evidence in front of him.

It is also disingenuous to dress up that first match versus the US as a merited part of this exchange. Buh say wha, carry on.
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Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2021, 10:24:34 AM »
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It is not complacency. It was ignorance. What was there to be complacent about when we needed to win and the match was tied 0-0? Tell me please.
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« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2021, 10:26:42 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal.
mate we keep coming back here with the Bahamas rhetoric. To be fair to the lads the Bahamas did not beat us neither did they out play us, we simply did not have a solution to their 8 man defense line. they conceded possession and played deep in their half and limited the amount of chances on their goal, and the chances we got we failed to convert and easy chances i might add, so youíre telling me that the coach supposed to score sitters, is that his job?

You saw this nonsense all the way back when hart was the coach, he kept telling them to capitalize on their chances, that was one of his many mantras at post match press conferences, they also did the same foolishness with lawrence where they blew easy tap ins and lawrence on many occasions also stress the need to finish chances, so what does that tell you, it says that we struggle with finishing. just look at the stats, in The Whole tournament we conceded one single fluke goal off a miscommunication between two central defenders, itís not like we were played into the ground.

bottom line is that we severely lack quality, especially in the attacking third. we actually need goal scorersÖ.attackers who can finish, but donít take my word for it, go back and examine the stats which says it all. apart from kenwin Jones and Kevin molino we had no goal scorers in the last ten years to speak of. donít take my word for it, go do your research.

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Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2021, 10:35:08 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

Time doesn't permit me to delve into this right now, but you do realize that you are selectively comparing coaches that took teams to the WC  with a coach who hasn't and hasn't come remotely close to the penultimate round of qualifying and who will never take a team to a WC, correct?

Scolari also recently plunged Cruzeiro, but that doesn't help your case either because we have seen him at his best and it should never have been injected into this conversation. Klinsman? One of this strengths was having reliable advisors to whom he listened. Guess who doh listen or learn from the evidence in front of him.

It is also disingenuous to dress up that first match versus the US as a merited part of this exchange. Buh say wha, carry on.
apples and oranges mate, we are not talking about their success, I was referring to coaches who coveted a job and failed miserably. that was my point. And of course you wonít dare put fenwick in any class with these two giants, itís nonsensical to say the least, thereís simply no comparison in terms of success, none.

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Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2021, 10:54:37 AM »
Both asylum. . This is how I see it. . "We playing Canada, El Salvador, let me find out who we need to look out for... their tactics, etc.. .". "We playing Bahamas, I am not going to waste my time researching a bunch of college boys who dont even have a wikipedia page.." etc..
Complacency ? yes. Ignorance? absolutely.

To be fair, I am sure their are many instances where we had coaches who did the same thing. But Fenwicks oversight came at the wrong time. If this was my fourth competitive game in charge, that happens to be a qualifier, against a team ranked 200+, yes I will make sure to treat this game like a qualifier against Mexico. Especially since I still have to prove myself. And a win will certainly help to prove me. .
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« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2021, 11:04:31 AM »
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal.
mate we keep coming back here with the Bahamas rhetoric. To be fair to the lads the Bahamas did not beat us neither did they out play us, we simply did not have a solution to their 8 man defense line. they conceded possession and played deep in their half and limited the amount of chances on their goal, and the chances we got we failed to convert and easy chances i might add, so youíre telling me that the coach supposed to score sitters, is that his job?

You saw this nonsense all the way back when hart was the coach, he kept telling them to capitalize on their chances, that was one of his many mantras at post match press conferences, they also did the same foolishness with lawrence where they blew easy tap ins and lawrence on many occasions also stress the need to finish chances, so what does that tell you, it says that we struggle with finishing. just look at the stats, in The Whole tournament we conceded one single fluke goal off a miscommunication between two central defenders, itís not like we were played into the ground.

bottom line is that we severely lack quality, especially in the attacking third. we actually need goal scorersÖ.attackers who can finish, but donít take my word for it, go back and examine the stats, apart from kenwin Jones and Kevin molino we had no goal scorers in the last ten years to speak of. donít take my word for it, go do your research.



Bro, for this game, it aint about us having quality. Match every TT player with every BAH player and you will see that we have the better players. Many OF THEM BAHAMIANS on the team have 9 to 5 JOBS.. Some work in the tourism industry. You understand my point? Fenwick went into the game with his hands in he pocket. He did not take this game seriously. He kept everything the same well into the second half. He thought that the win was guaranteed and he was WRONG. That is why we loss this game.

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« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2021, 12:10:43 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

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« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2021, 12:17:31 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
"My sonís identity has also been reduced to that of ... as a racist. I want this court to know that none of these things are true and that my son is a good man. A lengthy sentence will not serve Derek well.Ē --- Carolyn Pawlenty, mother of Derek Chauvin, prior to the court issuing a light sentence.

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« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2021, 01:35:54 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.

Fenwick eh going no where. He is going to ride out his contract. Until we get the covid situation back to some kind of normalcy, all TF and the national endeavours will be in flux.

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« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2021, 01:42:19 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Why BAH didn't park the bus on all them game they play? If their park the bus strategy was so good, Guyana wouldn't have scored 4 on them.. if their park the bus was that effective, Puerto Rico wouldn't have scored 7 on them. BAH would have had at least one point if their park the bus strategy was so superb.

Fenwick thought it would have been a walk in the park.. that's why we got that result against BAH. Not because the players ain't that good.. or because the BAH park the bus strategy is impregnable. Fenwick was caught off guard. Bad lapse of judgment.
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« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2021, 02:20:27 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Why BAH didn't park the bus on all them game they play? If their park the bus strategy was so good, Guyana wouldn't have scored 4 on them.. if their park the bus was that effective, Puerto Rico wouldn't have scored 7 on them. BAH would have had at least one point if their park the bus strategy was so superb.

Fenwick thought it would have been a walk in the park.. that's why we got that result against BAH. Not because the players ain't that good.. or because the BAH park the bus strategy is impregnable. Fenwick was caught off guard. Bad lapse of judgment.
my god mate go back and watch the game please. to say that they didn't park the bus is insulting my intelligence. as for why they didn't vs guyana, you must remember guyana was their first or second game so of course they would go out and play to win, which leads to committing more bodies going forward leaving greater opportunity for opposing teams to get on the score sheet.

you actually think if they played us the way they played the other teams they would have drew the game, come on mate cut it out. they were extremely conservative and committed very few players in attack. my guess is that they believed if they played us the way they played the rest they would be demolished, so they parked it to save face. come on man, you can't sell me the argument that somehow the other teams were better than us vs bahamas, i'can't buy that based on the obvious.

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« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2021, 02:26:37 PM »
Should not matter if they park the bus or not, we should be able to play against a parked bus or park the bus ourselves.
We were just not good enough. Simple.
Players. Coach. Administrators. Govt. Even us as fans, as we settle for mediocrity.

For a small nation like ours with no big resources, we will always rely heavily on the talent of the players to lead the way.
When we qualified for Germany, we had players with Champions League experience. Multiple players playing at highest level across multiple leagues. And battle hardened in CONCACAF.

Now our star players are solid MLS players. Battle hardened in CFU!

Another cycle will come...

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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2021, 02:29:05 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
so when will we fire the players and the whole football fraternity in trinidad and tobago, because as long as i can remember we have been firing a coach every 2 years, some not even lasting a six months on certain occasions, so when will we realize that somethings wrong? and clearly if it keeps happening then shouldn't we try looking  elsewhere  other than coaching. BTW we have nothing left to play for, so why not let fenwick ride out his contract, fire him for what?

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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2021, 02:39:15 PM »
Should not matter if they park the bus or not, we should be able to play against a parked bus or park the bus ourselves.
We were just not good enough. Simple.
Players. Coach. Administrators. Govt. Even us as fans, as we settle for mediocrity.

For a small nation like ours with no big resources, we will always rely heavily on the talent of the players to lead the way.
When we qualified for Germany, we had players with Champions League experience. Multiple players playing at highest level across multiple leagues. And battle hardened in CONCACAF.

Now our star players are solid MLS players. Battle hardened in CFU!

Another cycle will come...
look here, i'm done, you all believe what you want. you all have this notion that we are a big team in CFU when nothing could be farther from the truth. we have always struggled with caribbean opposition of lately. grenda threw us out of the gold cup twice, bermuda beat us at the marvin lee stadium in world dup qualifying, guyana kicked us out of the world cup, antigua BEAT US IN THE CARIBBEAN CUP AND WE HAD TO DEPEND ON HAITI TO BEAT THEM SO WE COULD GO TO THE GOLD CUP.

st vincent was beating us in st vincent even going up twice until levi came on in his debut scoring a brace to save our chances, guyana kicked us out of the world cup in 2011 with players like kenwin jones and carlos edwards, so how are we this big magnanimous team, where is this delusional notion coming from? we're not even 2 goals better than these teams, not me say so, the stats does. you all needs to wake up.

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« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2021, 03:00:40 PM »
Who is this great Bahamian coach to come up with this amazing never seen before strategy to nullify TT, laden with players ? How Bahamas big development of players through their high level leagues and academies and probably as equal player pool as ours ? The Bahamian govt must be put tons of dollars into their program, while we only putting money into all kinda wonderful coaches ? Itís quite possible that if we had all these coaches a couple years ago, and our admin copied that Bahamian model, they would have the guys up to par by now.
How long we will continue to pay top regional dollar and the Beach, Futsal, women and men Ntl coaches will get us up to speed ? Are they an investment in development?

Please ! Terry Fenwick as the National team coach has shown no coaching strategy, tactic nor any convincing result. If the players fail, play tata, show resilience, out play opponents, loose or win, even demonstrate individual ability, itís all on the coach. He put them there, regardless of kudos or blame. This coach was out-foxed by a coach, Nesley Jean. He never play for nobody. His experience was Bahamas U17. He came up with a strategy that an ex- English player with WC pedigree, players with mostly world 2 nd tier Professional and previous National experience to prevent us from beating them. Is it because he learned from the 15 goals scored on them before ? Look Fenwick contract should have gone with Wallace as every Wallace contracts went. National players should now all resign after tonightís game and at  present handle yíall current work. Locals, train with your local coaches and enjoy your skill, until local football can get back to normal. Do not be part of THIS NC National teams fiasco, it would serve only to embarrass you, while clubs take the opponents that your coach have no idea of defusing.

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« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2021, 03:15:50 PM »
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
so when will we fire the players and the whole football fraternity in trinidad and tobago, because as long as i can remember we have been firing a coach every 2 years, some not even lasting a six months on certain occasions, so when will we realize that somethings wrong? and clearly if it keeps happening then shouldn't we try looking  elsewhere  other than coaching. BTW we have nothing left to play for, so why not let fenwick ride out his contract, fire him for what?

No serious and self- respecting entity would let TF continue in an official capacity. But maybe that's the issue.

T&T football and its disagreeable fraternity will get their Me Too/ BLM/ civil rights/ bush bath moment. It will come. Everyone including the Fifth Columnists has had their say ... morning follows night.
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« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2021, 03:29:59 PM »
If we were not able to beat bahamas we didnt deserve to go forward. Our football has simply not been good for a while. While i believe TF must go alot of these current players are lacking in quality. We are lucky to have not lost the game. Plain talk bad manners!

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« Reply #82 on: June 07, 2021, 03:39:54 PM »


One of these things is not like the others.

Bahamas collected maybe about 15 in their 3 previous games.

We couldnt score ONE when it mattered most. Thats just damning.
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« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2021, 03:43:34 PM »
There's not likely to be any form of improvement for GC qualifiers.
So maybe we should write that off too.
If he gets fired he most likely would need to be paid off unless he failed to meet some metrics.

So then what to do. Let him continue and salt  for the next few years until the next cycle of tournaments begin?
Bring in somebody else who going and be hamstrung by this whole mess that is TT football?

What really are our options here?
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« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2021, 06:42:53 PM »
Expect more beatings in the Gold Cup! Same game approach = Same shit football = Same sorry structure = Same results
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« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2021, 10:32:28 PM »

Expect more beatings in the Gold Cup! Same game approach = Same hit football = Same sorry structure = Same results

No reactions to the video?

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« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2021, 08:42:39 AM »
This video tells it all

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYtGKn-kjU&feature=emb_title
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« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2021, 11:34:24 AM »
Ah boy !  Mr terry ( elbow ) fenwick l, you have anything to add or say ?  This  video speak volumes ! Mr fenwick you're dishonest  and certainly have anger issues , sorry but you're not a good example for national duty as a coach ! Too much baggage sorry ! Chuck it you got to go .

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« Reply #88 on: June 12, 2021, 05:16:37 AM »

Fenwick got fired together with his assistants

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