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« on: July 20, 2022, 11:27:12 AM »
Ascension to stage $2.6m Caribbean Cup
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ORGANISERS of the Ascension football competition have applied to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association’s normalisation committee (NC) for permission to operate an Ascension Caribbean Cup Tournament.

The competition will comprise six teams; the top three teams from the Ascension Tournament of Trinidad and Tobago 2022 (most likely Defence Force, Police FC and Rangers), as well as the top clubs from Jamaica, Barbados and Grenada. The tournament is scheduled to run over a period of eight days, commencing on Friday October 21, 2022.

The budgeted cost of the tournament is $2.6 million, with the winner earning US$20,000, the second-placed team US$10,000 and US$5,000 going to the third-place finisher.

Terminix La Horquetta Rangers managing director Richard Ferguson has written normalisation committee chairman Robert Hadad seeking permission to stage the tournament.

To this end, Ferguson cited his organisation’s staging of the Ascension tournament.

“Kindly note that we ran a very successful Ascension Tournament for the period Friday 25th March, 2022, to Sunday 31st July, 2022, which was broadcast live on SportsMax, local television, viewed regionally, internationally, and live streamed worldwide via our website,” Ferguson’s communication stated.

Participating teams are not required to pay any registration fees to play in the tournament and organisers will also pay air travel and accommodation for the clubs from Jamaica, Barbados and Grenada.

The tournament will have television production of five match-days and is tabbed to be telecast on Sportsmax, TV6, CNC3 and streamed on the internet.

“This Tournament will not replace, restrict or substitute any sanctioned and existing leagues under the TTFA or any CONCACAF tournament,” Ferguson added.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2022, 05:57:12 AM »
I don't know much about Ferguson. But I think that is a good move by him. It will help TT club football. At least those 3 clubs.  And Rangers in particular.  Anybody know much about him. It appears that he is the Terminex franchise owner in TT. He is putting out his money. We have seen this kind of business before. Suite, Jack, Duprey,  John Williams and then the bottom drops.  Heard that he maybe running for TTFA president when the there is election.

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2022, 11:31:09 AM »
Ferguson awaits TTFA approval for Ascension Caribbean Football Cup
By Nigel Simon (T&T Guardian)


Close to a month since submitting a proposal to T&T Football Association (TTFA) Normalisation Committee chairman Robert Hadad seeking approval for the inaugural $2.6 million-budgeted Ascension Caribbean Football Tournament, which involved teams from Jamaica, Barbados, Grenada and T&T, Richard Ferguson says he is yet to get a response.

Last Friday, Terminix La Horquetta Rangers which is owned by Ferguson, won the 2022 edition of the Ascension Football Tournament’s top prize of $100,000with the 2019 inaugural winners Defence Force got $50,000.00) for finishing second and Police FC got $20,000 for its third place performance.

According to the request, the tournament would be called, “The Ascension Caribbean Cup” and it would comprise six teams, the top three from the Ascension Tournament of T&T 2022 Rangers, Defence Force, and Police as well as the top clubs from Jamaica, Barbados, and Grenada.

The release noted: The tournament will not replace, restrict or substitute any sanctioned and existing leagues under the TTFA or any Concacaf Tournament, and the teams will not be required to pay any registration fees to play in the tournament as the clubs would be invited to participate.

Under the Ascension Caribbean Cup which will have five days of televised matches to be shown on Sportsmax, TV6, and CNC3, the top team will walk away with US$20,000 while the second-placed team will collect US$10,000, and the third-placed finisher, $US5,000.

His letter to the T&TFA dated July 8, 2022, added: “We seek permission to operate an Ascension Caribbean Cup Tournament in T&T which will run over a period of eight days, beginning on Friday, October 21, 2022, and all matches will take place at the Phase II La Horquetta Recreation Ground, La Horquetta, comprising of two groups of three clubs with a semi-final and final.”

Speaking to Guardian Media Sports about the advantages of running the Ascension Football Caribbean Cup, Ferguson boasted that it will be the first time that local professional clubs will be able to compete against other professional Caribbean clubs in over five years since the T&TFA clubs were debarred from competing in the Caribbean Football Union and Concacaf Club competitions for being non-compliant.

He added, “The Ascension Caribbean Cup can also be viewed as forming part of the reward for the top three local clubs of the Ascension Tournament of T&T for their success throughout the 2022 Ascension Tournament.

“With respect to its advantages, Ferguson said the tournament would be broadcasted live on local and regional television as well as being live streamed on the tournament’s website and other streaming platforms on the internet.

“In addition, it would give players the opportunity to showcase their talent and increase their chances of being selected by international clubs and representing their respective countries internationally, as well as improve the overall calibre of football being played locally and regionally, generate income and create employment for support staff associated with the tournament.

“Ultimately, the Ascension Caribbean Cup is geared toward creating a new and exciting competition within the region, but we have Mr Hadad, the chairman of the T&TFA Normalisation Committee regarding approval to run the Ascension Caribbean Cup since Friday, July 8, 2022, and have yet to receive a response from him.”

Admitting that with every passing day the cost of staging the competition increases due to travel airfare and accommodation, Ferguson said they remain hopeful that they will receive a favourable response from the T&TFA as there is no justifiable reason to delay the progress in football that is being made by the Ascension Tournament organisers.

With regards to the successful staging of the 2022 Ascension Tournament which saw the return of crowds to local football in mass numbers, Ferguson said the tournament sought to provide an avenue for local football clubs in T&T to participate in a league and provide them with a platform to showcase their talents after two years of inactivity in local football as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic which began at the start of 2019.

Among the successes of the just concluded competition, Ferguson pointed out that each game was broadcasted live on local and regional television and was live streamed which brought tremendous exposure to the tournament as well as presented a display of the talents and abilities locally, regionally, and internationally.

In terms of financial benefits, Ferguson noted that the tournament illustrates that football in T&T is financially sustainable and viable, as the tournament was successfully run without Government subventions and donations with games being held at Phase II La Horquetta Recreation Ground, the Arima Velodrome, and the St James Police Training Barracks where the organisers charged patrons a reasonable fee to gain access to view the games at these various locations.

“And due to the overwhelming support from patrons over the 18 weeks of the tournament, the organisers were able to remit to the ten participating clubs a total of $250,000 in appearance fees, that is $25,000 for participating in the tournament for which there were no registration fees required.

“A former hockey player in his younger days, but now an avid football supporter and club owner, Ferguson also pointed out that football is the most popular in T&T and the tournament organisers realise football was removed from the communities and usually held in various stadiums which created challenges for supporters to attend, and as such, a decision was made to bring football back to the communities where the support and fan base was expected to grow.

“As a result of this unprecedented move, the tournament received overwhelming support from the community of La Horquetta, Arima, and St James.

“Moreover, supporters from various parts of T&T commuted to the various venues to see their favourite teams play throughout the tournament with the La Horquetta Recreation Grounds seeing patrons in the hundreds every Friday night since the tournament commenced in March.”

Ferguson ended, “The tournament also played its role culturally in exposing the world to the rich and authentic culture of T&T, inclusive of dancers, cheerleaders, rhythm section, and entertainment provided by local artiste after the Friday night games.”
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2022, 06:58:32 PM »
Ferguson reminds me of Arthur Suite.  And the NC is Jack.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2022, 08:06:38 PM »
Ferguson reminds me of Arthur Suite.  And the NC is Jack.

 :beermug: …. and you know who won

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2022, 12:08:08 PM »
Ferguson reminds me of Arthur Suite.  And the NC is Jack.

 :beermug: …. and you know who won

A no-brainer. 

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2022, 02:18:19 AM »
Normalization Committee turn it down.

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2022, 03:38:32 AM »
Normalization Committee turn it down.

“ normal turn of events “.

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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2022, 06:26:38 AM »
Normalization Committee turn it down.

Any reason expressed?
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2022, 03:34:25 PM »
Normalization Committee turn it down.

Any reason expressed?
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2022, 12:21:29 PM »
Ascension Caribbean Cup blanked...TTFA pressing ahead with ‘Elite League’
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THE normalisation committee (NC) of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) has turned down a request from the Ascension Tournament organisers to host an Ascension Caribbean Cup, which would have involved the three top finishers of the recently-concluded Ascension Tournament and three invited Caribbean teams.

In correspondence addressed to Richard Ferguson, managing director of the Ascension (Football) Tournament and dated August 5, acting TTFA general secretary Ammiel Mohammed, communicated the normalisation committee’s decision.

“The TTFA will under no circumstance sanction any tournament or competition organised by third parties that involves clubs/teams affiliated to other FIFA Member Associations. You should also note that any such tournament/competition would require sanctioning from the international football bodies and such will not be issued in view of the situation of the TTFA,” the correspondence stated.

“In view of the aforementioned, and in particular, the fact that the TTFA is preparing for the organisation of the new official club competition structure (i.e. League) in the last quarter of 2022, we regret to inform you that the ‘Ascension Caribbean Cup’ cannot be authorised/sanctioned by the TTFA. We look forward to working with you to develop the new official club competition in earnest.”

Meanwhile, the TTFA reiterated its decision to press on with its own “Elite league” from which TTFA clubs have the opportunity to qualify for Caribbean competition. The TTFA is seeking a $3.5 million Government investment to run the competition, with a top flight comprising ten to 12 teams, over an eight-month period.

No funding is likely to come before Government’s annual budget from which the Ministry of Sport will get its annual subvention.

“As you know, the TTFA is currently working on a new Trinidad and Tobago official league structure/ecosystem that will provide proper and ample opportunity for the TTFA clubs to participate and compete. It will also give TTFA affiliated clubs official access to international tournaments/competition,” the TTFA stated when replying to Ascension organisers.

The TTFA acknowledged receipt of correspondence dated July 9, 2022, seeking permission to stage the “Ascension Caribbean Cup,” in Trinidad and Tobago over a period of eight days commencing on 21 October 2022. However, in receiving permission to stage the local Ascension Tournament earlier this year, the TTFA stated that Ascension organisers agreed that their tournament would not serve as a qualifier for any other tournament.

“On 8 February 2022, and on an exceptional and one-time basis, the TTFA in good faith approved your Ascension Tournament of Trinidad and Tobago.

“In that communication it was unequivocally indicated that such authorisation was exceptional and on a one-off basis.”

“It was also unequivocally and clearly stated that the Ascension Tournament of Trinidad and Tobago would not constitute a qualification tournament for any other national or international tournament, competition, or league, including any type of official or ‘friendly’ tournament or competition.

“You have been fully involved and are aware of these plans and discussions and we appreciate your interest in and support for the new official league structure, which you demonstrated by being one of the first clubs to submit your application for participation.”
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2022, 02:16:29 PM »
But as far as I know, the tournament was an invitational tournament. Ferguson said that this was not going to be a qualifying for any Caribbean/Concacaf tournament i.e Caribbean Cup or Concacaf Champions League. The nc full of shit. I think that they view Ferguson as threat.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2022, 02:16:38 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2022, 10:32:05 AM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2022, 12:52:02 PM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

How is Caribbean Cup football not beneficial to TT football ? We can’t even beat clubs and nations now we go beat C. American and MexiCanUsa clubs and countries. We have to recalibrate. If not we will remain in the doldrums.

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2022, 01:59:05 PM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

How is Caribbean Cup football not beneficial to TT football ? We can’t even beat clubs and nations now we go beat C. American and MexiCanUsa clubs and countries. We have to recalibrate. If not we will remain in the doldrums.
When you say recalibrate I imagine you mean forward thinking well the Caribbean football cup is nothing new that's been going on before I was born Recyling old colonial ideas is not going to bring TT football back those days are gone TT needs to think outside the box if Ferguson wants to bring TT football back the 1st thing he needs to do is to bring a professional coach to TT to build his club into a regional power house.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2022, 05:18:01 PM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

How is Caribbean Cup football not beneficial to TT football ? We can’t even beat clubs and nations now we go beat C. American and MexiCanUsa clubs and countries. We have to recalibrate. If not we will remain in the doldrums.
When you say recalibrate I imagine you mean forward thinking well the Caribbean football cup is nothing new that's been going on before I was born Recyling old colonial ideas is not going to bring TT football back those days are gone TT needs to think outside the box if Ferguson wants to bring TT football back the 1st thing he needs to do is to bring a professional coach to TT to build his club into a regional power house.

What is colonial about the CFU ? The problem with CFU is that it lacks money, thus power. I agree that Ferguson needs to upgrade his coaching staff by a lot.  But club football is in limbo with shenanigans of  the NC. What is wrong in having a Caribbean invitational club football tournament lasting a week until the TTFA Totee league starts later in the year.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2022, 04:17:45 AM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

How is Caribbean Cup football not beneficial to TT football ? We can’t even beat clubs and nations now we go beat C. American and MexiCanUsa clubs and countries. We have to recalibrate. If not we will remain in the doldrums.
When you say recalibrate I imagine you mean forward thinking well the Caribbean football cup is nothing new that's been going on before I was born Recyling old colonial ideas is not going to bring TT football back those days are gone TT needs to think outside the box if Ferguson wants to bring TT football back the 1st thing he needs to do is to bring a professional coach to TT to build his club into a regional power house.

What is colonial about the CFU ? The problem with CFU is that it lacks money, thus power. I agree that Ferguson needs to upgrade his coaching staff by a lot.  But club football is in limbo with shenanigans of  the NC. What is wrong in having a Caribbean invitational club football tournament lasting a week until the TTFA Totee league starts later in the year.
TT football was screwed up before NC and would be screwed after NC that's not there fault the most important thing right now is to restart local club football the Caribbean club football is just a tournament for Ferguson to promote his business in the English Caribbean why can't he invite teams from Hati, DR, Martinque Guadlupe Suriname etc teams that will cut they tail not going back to that old time English Caribbean colonial BS that's a waste of time and money.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2022, 04:31:43 PM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2022, 06:59:46 PM »
Ferguson was 1 of J Warner students they need to keep as far from him as possible and besides that Caribbean cup football has no benefit  to TT football anyway.

How is Caribbean Cup football not beneficial to TT football ? We can’t even beat clubs and nations now we go beat C. American and MexiCanUsa clubs and countries. We have to recalibrate. If not we will remain in the doldrums.
When you say recalibrate I imagine you mean forward thinking well the Caribbean football cup is nothing new that's been going on before I was born Recyling old colonial ideas is not going to bring TT football back those days are gone TT needs to think outside the box if Ferguson wants to bring TT football back the 1st thing he needs to do is to bring a professional coach to TT to build his club into a regional power house.

What is colonial about the CFU ? The problem with CFU is that it lacks money, thus power. I agree that Ferguson needs to upgrade his coaching staff by a lot.  But club football is in limbo with shenanigans of  the NC. What is wrong in having a Caribbean invitational club football tournament lasting a week until the TTFA Totee league starts later in the year.
TT football was screwed up before NC and would be screwed after NC that's not there fault the most important thing right now is to restart local club football the Caribbean club football is just a tournament for Ferguson to promote his business in the English Caribbean why can't he invite teams from Hati, DR, Martinque Guadlupe Suriname etc teams that will cut they tail not going back to that old time English Caribbean colonial BS that's a waste of time and money.

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2022, 12:08:06 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2022, 05:46:09 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2022, 12:09:28 PM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2022, 12:23:47 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

If you so believe in foreign, why don't you get your financiers to fund the acquisition of coaches from abroad. Yes they have been successful, but the TTFA has always have to scrape, beg and borrow to pay them. And I am not a friend of the past TTFA admins. especially under Jack. He had the resources and he f**ked up. And even when he relented for the Germany WC, he f**ked up again after that. You know the history quite well. Why don't you get an organization to assist funding local coaches to expand their knowledge so that they can take the teams to a higher level. We know that is the problem.

Yes, John Williams was a successful business man and club owner. His team WC was exceptionally successful by local standard. Their records speak for themselves. He was a professional when running his club. He put his money for his club. Unfortunately when running TTFA,  he and all had illusions of grandeur and took his eyes of the real interest of the the TTFA. Which was reducing the debt caused by Jack. And the proper running of the country's football. The pro-league was/is a monopoly that is strangling local football. When TTFA get their shit together we will move forward. I am not sure what will happen to Connection seeing that he has passed. I sincerely hope they don't end up like some of the old clubs of the past. Connection and Caroni have been the two clubs that have elevated Central football to national level and international level(Connection). I am yet to hear what the heir of his business will do. They did not even participate in the Ascension league. The focus is on the Normalization Committee.

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2022, 11:51:56 PM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

I feel like you are looking at the problem backwards - if our coaches are bad how can our youth develop? There's no foreign coaches working with the U13 in Laventille, no U14 coaches in Arima. These are the people we should be investing in - they give us the pipeline.

Also, the insane wages these guys get would be significantly better served supporting a domestic league where our talent can get the practice necessary to improve.

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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2022, 06:09:12 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

I feel like you are looking at the problem backwards - if our coaches are bad how can our youth develop? There's no foreign coaches working with the U13 in Laventille, no U14 coaches in Arima. These are the people we should be investing in - they give us the pipeline.

Also, the insane wages these guys get would be significantly better served supporting a domestic league where our talent can get the practice necessary to improve.


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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2022, 09:34:48 PM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

I feel like you are looking at the problem backwards - if our coaches are bad how can our youth develop? There's no foreign coaches working with the U13 in Laventille, no U14 coaches in Arima. These are the people we should be investing in - they give us the pipeline.

Also, the insane wages these guys get would be significantly better served supporting a domestic league where our talent can get the practice necessary to improve.
Those who refuse to keep up with the times would be left back in time!!

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2022, 01:51:40 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

I feel like you are looking at the problem backwards - if our coaches are bad how can our youth develop? There's no foreign coaches working with the U13 in Laventille, no U14 coaches in Arima. These are the people we should be investing in - they give us the pipeline.

Also, the insane wages these guys get would be significantly better served supporting a domestic league where our talent can get the practice necessary to improve.
Those who refuse to keep up with the times would be left back in time!!

Then lets ensure our coaches in our youth pipeline are up-to-date with modern coaching qualifications?

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2022, 08:50:37 AM »
What's the point of yet another expensive foreign coach? Sod them all and invest in local talent. Take the US$100K and maybe pay down the debt, or support youth teams, or pay the decade overdue prize money, or give it to clubs to fund the youth team.
Youve been sold a pipe dream local coach's don't have the tactical knowledge to coach at the international level nor  do they know anything about youth development.

Says who? I'd rather pay the money to train them then. Foreign coaches come and go and barely leave a mark. Did we get our money for Saintfiet? The welsh guy? If we train our own, locally, they will either stay and enhance our game, or leave for a foreign team and that can have more tertiary benefits than the fly-by-night crews. I'm increasingly convinced the patronising and arrogant approach that a lot of coaches treat the island with is nothing but detrimental.
A local coach will save you money but there inability to get results would cost more in the long run  a foreign coach will cost more money but get the results to make TT team competitive on the international stage putting your money on a local coach that is going no were is a waste of time and money.

If I was Saintfiet I would walk off the job to TT football is run by a bunch of clowns D J  Williams was a successful businessman but he was not a professional.

I feel like you are looking at the problem backwards - if our coaches are bad how can our youth develop? There's no foreign coaches working with the U13 in Laventille, no U14 coaches in Arima. These are the people we should be investing in - they give us the pipeline.

Also, the insane wages these guys get would be significantly better served supporting a domestic league where our talent can get the practice necessary to improve.
Those who refuse to keep up with the times would be left back in time!!

Then lets ensure our coaches in our youth pipeline are up-to-date with modern coaching qualifications?

Simply Correct!!!!