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Sports => Football => Topic started by: trinbago on March 02, 2006, 10:27:37 AM
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This is quite a long lay off
Including the 8-10 guaranteed spots on the team we literally have about 30-35 persons vying to make the final 28 that Beenie is going to select.....
We should be trying to sort out the remaing 20-people...leave those guranteed 8-10 out since we are confident in their style and what they bring to the team, and play matches against some international minnows...just to have a better idea of who you want to select...
When you include the 8-10 regulars, how do you sort out the rest of the team ??
Bringing in 6-subs on to play a couple mins does NOT provide a true assesment...
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i dont think so but massa beenhakker says so, so everyone bowing and praising de man like he is a saviour, hes a great coach and were thankful for us coming together but the long lay offs could only affect our team in a negative way, rather than a positive way, late prep has been a pattern we should have broken a long time ago >:(
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I agree. Those guys who not sure starters should play as much friendlies and organized games as possble together. That way we can really separate the men who definitely going to make it.
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I agree. Those guys who not sure starters should play as much friendlies and organized games as possble together. That way we can really separate the men who definitely going to make it.
Name de men and dem and tell meh when dey coming to play game...
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who knows why there is such a long lay-off, buh if beenie wanted to sort through players he woulda do that long time, like d US when they start playing friendlies since January with 2nd n 3rd string players and only now Arena start callin back d US professionals based in Europe... i think beenie tellin we that he only see about 28 players from tnt that good enough to make a WC squad... if he thought about 35 to 40 players are WC quality he woulda have earlier frieldlies for them.
One good thing bout beenie is that his actions speak as loud and louder than words and he seems to be a very consistent coach, not coping and changing tactics and philosophies along the way.
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t i i cant beleive u aint believe in banhakker capacity as a coach
this is d man dat carry we world cup
this is d 1st man to aint start a fit an avaliable latapy in a world cup qualifer
unlike you i am forced to believe that he knows wat he doin in terms of warrior football so jus bak an chill
watch the man bring we glory
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t i i cant beleive u aint believe in banhakker capacity as a coach
this is d man dat carry we world cup
this is d 1st man to aint start a fit an avaliable latapy in a world cup qualifer
unlike you i am forced to believe that he knows wat he doin in terms of warrior football so jus bak an chill
watch the man bring we glory
breds im not a passive person, nor am i docile, i am aggressive and want results, always strive for better, i dont see why we should juss relax for 2 months when we could b preparing and beenhakker taking a vacation, let him do some wuk and work with the locals and maybe even a reserve team, the ttff have beenie sittin around doing nothing for 2 months and man cussin me, no wonder we take so long 2 get on track
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Ah Guess Arenas is ah real chupidy for sorting out he non -regulars then !!!
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IS TEN WEEKS BEFORE WE NEXT GAME RAS? :o
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IS TEN WEEKS BEFORE WE NEXT GAME RAS? :o
2 1/2 f**kin months....
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Fellahs, men making some valid points about the long lay-off and the players on the periphery, but let us not forget that Beenieman is ah wily-old fox, with plenty football knowlegde. He and is assisstants can assess players strengths and weeknesses very effectively.
So they have a clear idea of who can cut it and who cannot, they are doing this at the highest level for a long time and for a living. Also remember that the old trini-coaches way of selecting all the talented players and putting them on a team has failed over and over. Beenie has shown us that a team needs balance (hardworkers and talented players who are collectively willing to play their roles effectively).......Gally was an exception with Strike Squad
Still, we must remember that there is a thing called peeking too early. Beenie and them have been able to scratch out results with 4 and 5 days of preparations and recently with only three days after a long break. Chances are, the time before the world cup will be more than adequate and well timed for success. So have some more faith in Beenie, he is a true professional, his results speak for themselves.
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Take ah clap dey fabien.... well balanced and well thought out post...
These is my sentiments as well....
Also allyuh don't forget that the U-21's have competition coming up at the end of this month into April.... so TNT football not at a standstill.... PFL starting back soon as well.... allyuh dont be so pessimistic....
We on de right track... have faith...
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Fellahs, men making some valid points about the long lay-off and the players on the perrifery, but let us not forget that Beenieman is ah wily-old fox, with plenty football knowlegde. He and is assisstants can assess players strengths and weeknesses very effectively.
So they have a clear idea of who can cut it and who cannot, they are doing this at the highest level for a long time and for a living. Also remember that the old trini-coaches way of selecting all the talented players and putting them on a team has failed over and over. Beenie has shown us that a team needs balance (hardworkers and talented players who are collectively willing to play their roles effectively).......Gally was an exception with Strike Squad
Still, we must remember that there is a thing called peeking too early. Beenie and them have been able to scratch out results with 4 and 5 days of preparations and recently with only three days after a long break. Chances are, the time before the world cup will be more than adequate and well timed for success. So have some more faith in Beenie, he is a true professional, his results speak for themselves.
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how idiots like TI only wanna question de man.
yuh like ah ole naggin wife.
is remind meh who yuh married to.
Beenie will do the best possible job.
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Trinbago are you RELATED to M.r. TriniInfinite
You should be the last one askin me that question........didn't you get or almost get 2-tickets last week...
Anyways the point of my post was:
1. It is a long layoff, what are your thoughts (the board) on it
2. I understand Beenie is a master, but he is doin his own thing right now,..his assistants could be doing what I simply suggested if at all
3. Could we learn something from Arenas..
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i think TI is right,we need more games,the team needs more exposure,we need to do exactly wat america is doin.when de usa cut we arse allyuh does want to talk ah packah shit.
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We are in the same boat as everyone else and the long lay off is not going to put us at a disadvantage, in fact we have more games lined up that a majority of WC particpants. It's like this, if you are available for long training camps, it means that you're not attached to a club and not playing competitive football. The fact of the matter is, PFL is starting soon, MLS soon and the British league is still going. All of the players that Beenhakker is considering are playing in those league with the exception of Yorke, who will be out of season. Looking at players playing with their clubs in a competive environment is just as good as watching them play against weak opposition like Bermuda and local club teams. How many countries worth playing can we get to play outside of a FIFA sanctioned date, not many. We have certain parameters to work within as everyone else and we just have to make the best of it. This is not an U-17 team where the men are not attached to clubs, all the players that will make the final and even those on the fringes would more or less be playing football where they can be assessed in a competitive arena.
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Hear nah, who going and PAY for all them 'by-de-way' friendlies to check out the crumbs who cyah make the team anyway ? TTFF pocket done stretch already.
Allyuh know how much it does cost to hold a game ?...and it don't make no difference whether is a full strength team or A team or B team, is cost per player whether man shitty or not. That cost could run we a cool million dollars based on the TTFF audit statements from past games.
Arenas have real money at his disposal, plus most of the players living and playing right in the US, so is no biggy for them to come together. USA done play 'bout 4 games already. Who we going to bring to play for us, PFL rejects ? When the game come off the stadium empty because man only want to see Latas and Yorke. And what foreign teams willing to come to play try-outs...apart from the caribbean teams who rated around 120 in the rankings.
Jamaica certainly not coming....them getting big games for warm-ups.
Beenie and his cohorts probably still involved with orgainsing training facilities, gyms, dietary supplies, interviews, information services and scouting the oppositions games until May. The man say four weeks before the WC is plenty time for the team to gel, let we trust him on that.
Yuh see the difference a good professional league does make in yuh country. Players are homegrown...Gally had that in '89 (albeit without the pros), USA have most of their players from the MLS, Mexico as well. Hopefully our PFL will reach the standard where we could easily field a competitive team of mostly locals, then friendlies won't be so expensive.
Jayerson yuh sum it up good too bredda.
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yep, we would only get shit teams outside of the fifa dates, beenie knows most of the 23 already wen he says hes not closing the door its for guys like shakes and sam who may come back and hit form. theres not many players in the pro league good enuff to play in a world cup beenie knos the league is week but any players good enuff like whitley will stand out. but i would have liked to see a local squad play a few friendlies in the lead up to the peru game but its wether its worth the hassle/cost. thats some of the squad possibly
Hislop
Jack
Warner
Lawrence
Andrews
Gray
John
Cox
Sancho
Spann
Birchall
Yorke
Whitley
Edwards
Latapy
John
Jones
Samuel
Scotland
Ince maybe
theobald maybe
shakes maybe
neaves maybe
Rahim maybe
Bocoud maybe
Glenn maybe
Sealy maybe
Sam maybe
plus a few others
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Fellahs, men making some valid points about the long lay-off and the players on the periphery, but let us not forget that Beenieman is ah wily-old fox, with plenty football knowlegde. He and is assisstants can assess players strengths and weeknesses very effectively.
So they have a clear idea of who can cut it and who cannot, they are doing this at the highest level for a long time and for a living. Also remember that the old trini-coaches way of selecting all the talented players and putting them on a team has failed over and over. Beenie has shown us that a team needs balance (hardworkers and talented players who are collectively willing to play their roles effectively).......Gally was an exception with Strike Squad
Still, we must remember that there is a thing called peeking too early. Beenie and them have been able to scratch out results with 4 and 5 days of preparations and recently with only three days after a long break. Chances are, the time before the world cup will be more than adequate and well timed for success. So have some more faith in Beenie, he is a true professional, his results speak for themselves.
You making sense.
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Why men doh stop talking foolishness? Who Beenie have to look at again and who didn't have the chance to impress pre-WC? Dwarika, Hardess, Evans Wise? These players particularly Wise and Dwarika have had prolonged stints to show what they can do. Hardess born and livin in T&T. why was he not on the team before? Could it be that Beenie is not suitably impressed by these folks. Additionally, if you are van Basten, you have your pick of quality players who playing in the best leagues in the World - you looking for men in form. The likelihood that you will find a difference maker in the Pro-League that has gone unnoticed at this point is virtually nil and there is the question if you find such a person is whether he can translate that to international football. When you have a lack of class players (which is the case with us) you have to depend on men who tried and tested and COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE. Not man who born and grow in T&T and now hustling to make the side. Look at Latapy. I sure 99.99% of people on this board would have said Latapy have to start for T&T but BEEnie knows that a) Latapy is 37 b) that he is easily marked out of games against high quality opposition and c) even when he was young he was a defensive liability. So he has gone for younger players who play up and down the pitch like Birchall & Whitley. The man is a boss and to hear men say that he closing the door too early is absurd secoind-guessing of a man who has proven his worth at the highest level of the game. What is even more absurd is the has beens, retreads and never-was that people saying should be given a second look.
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TI you right to keep questioning. I agree that Leo knows better than anyone what he doing. But it is up to us to ask questions. We have to, we need to not just show up at the watering hole but we need to be able to take a drink, and by us pressing, we can cause others to become thirsty.
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The one thing Beenie doesn't have is the luxury of having most of his team in the same place. 10 weeks might seem to be a long lay-off but I guess his plan is that the more high level competition the team plays closer to WC the better match prepared they will be. Come May it will be a case of 5 games in 5 weeks and he won't have to worry about clubs and people being available. Then again people might argue against that saying that he might run the risk of injury. I'm sure he has a fair idea of who will comprise the core team and it's a matter of working out little glitches like the left side.
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Long lay off from what??.
In Beenie's mind, he has seen what he thinks is sufficient and will pick a pre-squad of 28, nothing wrong with that.
These players are professionals, they going back to their respective clubs with the impression that they have to perform creditably at club level and maintain their fitness (every player responsible for he own fitness eh) and be ready for when they are called again. Its not like the go be liming outside Smokey and Bunty, they will be training hard and trying to impress at their respective clubs. At least thats the way I feel.
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who knows why there is such a long lay-off, buh if beenie wanted to sort through players he woulda do that long time, like d US when they start playing friendlies since January with 2nd n 3rd string players and only now Arena start callin back d US professionals based in Europe... i think beenie tellin we that he only see about 28 players from tnt that good enough to make a WC squad... if he thought about 35 to 40 players are WC quality he woulda have earlier frieldlies for them.
One good thing bout beenie is that his actions speak as loud and louder than words and he seems to be a very consistent coach, not coping and changing tactics and philosophies along the way.
yuh make a good point dey......I feel by now we should stop questioning beenhackers coaching methods, coaching ability or coaching decisions.....the man has been successfull everywhere he went including coaching T&T and he's done what no other coach has ever done for we and ah sure he eh do it by luck so alyuh sit down relax alyuh self ah let de man do he work ;D
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who knows why there is such a long lay-off, buh if beenie wanted to sort through players he woulda do that long time, like d US when they start playing friendlies since January with 2nd n 3rd string players and only now Arena start callin back d US professionals based in Europe... i think beenie tellin we that he only see about 28 players from tnt that good enough to make a WC squad... if he thought about 35 to 40 players are WC quality he woulda have earlier frieldlies for them.
One good thing bout beenie is that his actions speak as loud and louder than words and he seems to be a very consistent coach, not coping and changing tactics and philosophies along the way.
yuh make a good point dey......I feel by now we should stop questioning beenhackers coaching methods, coaching ability or coaching decisions.....the man has been successfull everywhere he went including coaching T&T and he's done what no other coach has ever done for we and ah sure he eh do it by luck so alyuh sit down relax alyuh self ah let de man do he work ;D
Nah man we is fans... don't stop asking questions.... but let them be well thought out intelligent questions.... man like dey does roll out ah bed and start to type wha ever dey dream last night yes....
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who knows why there is such a long lay-off, buh if beenie wanted to sort through players he woulda do that long time, like d US when they start playing friendlies since January with 2nd n 3rd string players and only now Arena start callin back d US professionals based in Europe... i think beenie tellin we that he only see about 28 players from tnt that good enough to make a WC squad... if he thought about 35 to 40 players are WC quality he woulda have earlier frieldlies for them.
One good thing bout beenie is that his actions speak as loud and louder than words and he seems to be a very consistent coach, not coping and changing tactics and philosophies along the way.
yuh make a good point dey......I feel by now we should stop questioning beenhackers coaching methods, coaching ability or coaching decisions.....the man has been successfull everywhere he went including coaching T&T and he's done what no other coach has ever done for we and ah sure he eh do it by luck so alyuh sit down relax alyuh self ah let de man do he work ;D
Nah man we is fans... don't stop asking questions.... but let them be well thought out intelligent questions.... man like dey does roll out ah bed and start to type wha ever dey dream last night yes....
ent, and it frustrating because it is the same offenders more often than not.
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I agree Beenie is a good coach but really Beenie say he wasn't impressed with Samuels. One game in that ten weeks against a lesser team with the "fringe players" getting a full run can't hurt. I agree that the cost might make it improbable and that we probably not going to get a huge improvement any way. But it is a valid opinion.
The fact that Beenie is drawing a salary and doing no wuk is a very good point also. I wouldn't ah mind if he ran a few sessions with the U-21 teams, even if it not in his job description.
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This is quite a long lay off
Including the 8-10 guaranteed spots on the team we literally have about 30-35 persons vying to make the final 28 that Beenie is going to select.....
We should be trying to sort out the remaing 20-people...leave those guranteed 8-10 out since we are confident in their style and what they bring to the team, and play matches against some international minnows...just to have a better idea of who you want to select...
When you include the 8-10 regulars, how do you sort out the rest of the team ??
Bringing in 6-subs on to play a couple mins does NOT provide a true assesment...
Did you watch the world cup qualifiers last year? If you did and paid attention to the team sheets you would realize that there were about 15 names (not 8-10) that appeared quite regularly in Beenie's 21-man squads and another 5 or so that were in and out the squad at various times. Even if there were 30-35 people vying to make the squad most of these men who haven't played for Beenie yet are very much ON THE FRINGE and have almost zero chance of getting any playing time in Germany. Do you all realize there will be 12 men who going to be riding the bench every game in Germany with only 3 subs allowed per game? We might as well leave the benchwarming to those men who were involved at some point along the journey.
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Men talking out dey ass.
So, exactly what do you call the senior team camp in Florida where local hopefuls played 2 friendlies and had a short camp, recently concluded?
And tell me, what do you call the 3 under 21 games that just played in the US against 2 MLS teams and the Under 17 team from which some unheralded youths got their opportunity to stake a claim for a WC chance?
We organize 6 friendlies and 3 camps between the local hopefuls, under 21s (also including mostly locals) and the full senior team and men still complaining. Besides the US, name another football federation that has that breadth of players so busy in the last 2 to 3 months? You think is a fluke we could have a bunch of fellas who eh play together since November, some of them eh even playing right now..yet the playing a disciplined organized system in the biting cold no less, when our WC rivals such as Sweden and Paraguay and even England look disjointed and rusty. Noone say we cyah ask for more, but take a step back and realize that real positive work is being done fellas. And everybody have the same problem with the friendly calendar being so sparse. I am sure more players will get a look as the MLS and PFL start back. And doh forget how PFL coaches real fight down Beenie before we had qualify when Beenie had try to call them into a local camp...now you blaming Beenie for not looking at enough locals...THis kinda talk is ridiculous...
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Men talking out dey ass.
So, exactly what do you call the senior team camp in Florida where local hopefuls played 2 friendlies and had a short camp, recently concluded?
And tell me, what do you call the 3 under 21 games that just played in the US against 2 MLS teams and the Under 17 team from which some unheralded youths got their opportunity to stake a claim for a WC chance?
We organize 6 friendlies and 3 camps between the local hopefuls, under 21s (also including mostly locals) and the full senior team and men still complaining. Besides the US, name another football federation that has that breadth of players so busy in the last 2 to 3 months? You think is a fluke we could have a bunch of fellas who eh play together since November, some of them eh even playing right now..yet the playing a disciplined organized system in the biting cold no less, when our WC rivals such as Sweden and Paraguay and even England look disjointed and rusty. Noone say we cyah ask for more, but take a step back and realize that real positive work is being done fellas. And everybody have the same problem with the friendly calendar being so sparse. I am sure more players will get a look as the MLS and PFL start back. And doh forget how PFL coaches real fight down Beenie before we had qualify when Beenie had try to call them into a local camp...now you blaming Beenie for not looking at enough locals...THis kinda talk is ridiculous...
You are taking my point out of context read it again !!:
This is quite a long lay off
Including the 8-10 guaranteed spots on the team we literally have about 30-35 persons vying to make the final 28 that Beenie is going to select.....
We should be trying to sort out the remaing 20-people...leave those guranteed 8-10 out since we are confident in their style and what they bring to the team, and play matches against some international minnows...just to have a better idea of who you want to select...
When you include the 8-10 regulars, how do you sort out the rest of the team ??
Bringing in 6-subs on to play a couple mins does NOT provide a true assesment...
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Some guys heads just in the cloud. We still in the honeymoon phase, some of these same guys will change their song.
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When is England next friendly?
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Men talking out dey ass.
So, exactly what do you call the senior team camp in Florida where local hopefuls played 2 friendlies and had a short camp, recently concluded?
And tell me, what do you call the 3 under 21 games that just played in the US against 2 MLS teams and the Under 17 team from which some unheralded youths got their opportunity to stake a claim for a WC chance?
We organize 6 friendlies and 3 camps between the local hopefuls, under 21s (also including mostly locals) and the full senior team and men still complaining. Besides the US, name another football federation that has that breadth of players so busy in the last 2 to 3 months? You think is a fluke we could have a bunch of fellas who eh play together since November, some of them eh even playing right now..yet the playing a disciplined organized system in the biting cold no less, when our WC rivals such as Sweden and Paraguay and even England look disjointed and rusty. Noone say we cyah ask for more, but take a step back and realize that real positive work is being done fellas. And everybody have the same problem with the friendly calendar being so sparse. I am sure more players will get a look as the MLS and PFL start back. And doh forget how PFL coaches real fight down Beenie before we had qualify when Beenie had try to call them into a local camp...now you blaming Beenie for not looking at enough locals...THis kinda talk is ridiculous...
You are taking my point out of context read it again !!:
This is quite a long lay off
Including the 8-10 guaranteed spots on the team we literally have about 30-35 persons vying to make the final 28 that Beenie is going to select.....
We should be trying to sort out the remaing 20-people...leave those guranteed 8-10 out since we are confident in their style and what they bring to the team, and play matches against some international minnows...just to have a better idea of who you want to select...
When you include the 8-10 regulars, how do you sort out the rest of the team ??
Bringing in 6-subs on to play a couple mins does NOT provide a true assesment...
Nah boss...I know exactly what you are saying. I just think you are wrong about how many open slots remian. Beenie knows most of his squad already..there are just a handful of slots still open. That much has been made public. I also recognize that the camps that I have mentioned serve the very same purpose that you have discussed. I believe we can use the past couple of months as proof that the current coaching staff is exploring every avenue to select the best team, even if there seems to be a long layoff between now and the next friendly. I really am disagreeing with the notion that Beenie will be taking a long vacation and not try to sort out the fringe and even new players in the interim....I AM NOT disagreeing that it would be great to play more friendlies and give the fringe players better opportunities to prove themselves.
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Ah like allyuh passion, ah don't always agree..but ah like it.
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England next game is May 30
http://fifa.com/en/mens/fixtures/index/0,2525,0-ENG-ALL,00.html
Sweden next game is May 25
http://fifa.com/en/mens/fixtures/index/0,2525,0-SWE-ALL,00.html
Paraguay next game is March 29 then May 24
http://fifa.com/en/mens/fixtures/index/0,2525,0-PAR-ALL,00.html
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Why waste time and money to bother with men who not good and cyar make the side and who not adding nuttin to the team.
The starting 11 pick and we should just fine tune that.
Beenie done have the one or two players earmarked to replace the starters in case thing happen.
All the men alyuh want to see get try out etc, either A) Not playing ball because PFL not in season.
B) have no PFL club
C) not starting or cyar make the bench for they club team
D) Still in college in the States
E) Have no club and hunting for wuk.
Alyuh trying to groom and justify a jackarse by trying to put on a saddle and blinkers on him to go and run in a horse race.
It doe wuk so.
Realise this is the big dance, it is WC ball and the men who can cut it have already been seen. The ones who on the squad already are the ones who qualify we or who are the better ones in the TT setup.
Also for all those who want friendly to see subs and organize men.......What these men bringing to the side? Who they displacing, What experience they bringing to the team.
Lemme answer the question for yuh.........none of them ent doing ONE Shit for this TT side.
Save the hard luck and who get a raw deal and who get diss yadda yadda.
If the men was good they would have gotten scouted, they woulda get a trial abroad and they woulda be on the national team already. It is because they cyar cut it at a INTERNATIONAL level they ent get call and they not ready.
The side done pick alyuh relax alyuh self.
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Why waste time and money to bother with men who not good and cyar make the side and who not adding nuttin to the team.
The starting 11 pick and we should just fine tune that.
Beenie done have the one or two players earmarked to replace the starters in case thing happen.
All the men alyuh want to see get try out etc, either A) Not playing ball because PFL not in season.
B) have no PFL club
C) not starting or cyar make the bench for they club team
D) Still in college in the States
E) Have no club and hunting for wuk.
Alyuh trying to groom and justify a jackarse and trying to put on a saddle and blinkers on him to go and run in a horse race.
It doe wuk so.
Realise this is the big dance, it is WC ball and the men who can cut it have already been seen. The ones who on the squad already are the ones who qualify we or who are the better ones in the TT setup.
Also for all those who want friendly to see subs and organize men.......What these men bringing to the side? Who they displacing, What experience they bringing to the team.
Lemme answer the question for yuh.........none of them ent doing ONE Shit for this TT side.
Save the hard luck and who get a raw deal and who get diss yadda yadda.
If the men was good they would have gotten scouted, they woulda get a trial abroad and they woulda be on the national team already. It is because they cyar cut it at a INTERNATIONAL level they ent get call and they not ready.
The side done pick alyuh relax alyuh self.
Hear! Hear! :beermug:
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Good one dey Touches :applause: :applause: :applause:
I getting feeling that is jes men on the board jus real passionate about they beloved warriors and probably wish they could get to see them play EVERY weekend and beat people too. Man jes cyah contain dey anxiety for the next game...to wait two months boy...that is pressure !
Some men probably know they talking shit yuh know, but is jes to see the national colours run out on the field go make them feel happy. Mind you, if the second string and try-outs team getting licks in dey arse...it go be a next story. Yuh go hear the same men saying TTFF wasting time and money on them games...that money coulda go the real team.
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A few points...
1) We cannot compare our preparation to the US because it is a different situation. The US have more talent (well more technically equipped players than us) for Arena to look at..hence the need for more friendlies....TI just want more friendlies so Hardest get a sweat.
2) The MLS is out of season so the players are available to play friendlies outside of the FIFA date. Our first choice players are not available.
3) If we follow USA approach, we can use local players (i.e. PFL and other unattached players) to play friendlies against the likes of St Kitts, Barbados, etc...I doubt that will do Beenie any good because he has seen all the players he wanted to see...Not the players I want him to see, TI wants him to see, Savannah Boy wants him to see, etc...
4) Although I may disagree with some of Leo's decisions...let me take a good look at 3 things...1) my resume as a successful international coach...hmmn..never coached ah damn team in my life. 2) the success of any forumites as an international caoch....hmmn..no success..however, if i am wrong, please correct me....3) Leo's resume....hmmn..very impressive. My point is Leo Beenhakker has a lot of experience that none of us have, I agree that we don't have to accept his every move as 100% correct but at the end of the day, I believe 100% that he is doing his very best to achieve success at the World Cup.
5) Carlos Alberto Parreira was severely criticised before the 1994 World Cup for 2 reasons..the team's style of play and his player selection (well Brazilian fans are worse than us and they always criticise..if allyuh think TI and his Hardest infatuation is bad...compared to Brazilians..he is nothing). After the winning the WC..he was still criticized. My point is no coach can please everybody even winning is sometimes not enough.
P.S.sorry about the long post..I am becoming like Alberta Trini.... ;D
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Two points I would like to clarify that was either misunderstood by some or I was not eloquent enough when I wrote it:
1. Filho: According to you our disagreeement is " I really am disagreeing with the notion that Beenie will be taking a long vacation and not try to sort out the fringe and even new players in the interim"
I clearly stated " I understand Beenie is a master, but he is doin his own thing right now,..his assistants could be doing what I simply suggested if at all"
2. Touches: Nobdoy talkin about bringin in new players...yuh confusing me with TI....The fact of the matter is we are lookin at about a 30-35 (that aleady was playing with us since the November games) man squad that we will narrow to 28 and then 23. .....me ah talkin bout people in the PFl....and doh beat around the bush ..call the man name out...Yuh talkin bout Hardest....I doh give a rats ass bout hardest..and groomin nobody.
Secondly when yuh make ah irresponsible statement like "What these men bringing to the side? Who they displacing, What experience they bringing to the team. Lemme answer the question for yuh.........none of them ent doing ONE Shit for this TT side."
When yuh have men who comin to practise when this qualifying now start and dey was still riding the bench you think it is responsible to make stements like that...with that attitude yuh lucky if yuh get the bench warmers to show up....Latas wasn't there, Yorke wasn't there in the begining....so choose your words carefully
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Right now our stock high. When you stock high you does sell. Some of them men might not make this side but they most likely going to make the side in the future. Let them get an opportunity to prove they worth. After the cup when Latas and Yorke retire from international football nobody will want to play us.
Spann and Whitley could do with all the games they could get right now without men to take way their attention. Dwight steal the show against ISL. A game in Trinidad should have money making potential even if Dwight and them ain't sweat. Caps come into play later on also. Let Neaves get a run. i would like to see Shakes run a full 90.
I mentioned before a loss will not help this WC cause but it might help future causes. Beenie probably won't be here after the cup. Now is a good time to let the young warriors start under a quality coach.
Honestly I don't think it will happen but I like the fact that we have differing opinions and can discuss them openly and freely.