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Re: Child's play for Maturana.
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2008, 04:22:25 PM »
Take yuh campaign to clean up de internet somewhere else.  Leave me tuh f**k alone.


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Re: Child's play for Maturana.
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2008, 04:24:36 PM »
I doh have a problem with you cussing. I have a problem with you drawing false conclusions and trying to spread it as gospel truth. You more intelligent than that.

Wim may or may not have been a ****ing goat, as you so eloquently put it, but you can't base that on the fact that we c side beat a el salvador c side 1-0 at home off a free kick.

Ah notice you doh seem to have nothing to say about the fact that since Wim gone, TTFF suddenly seem to have a conscience and lifting blacklist, allowing the man to pick the players he want, and organising friendly to boot.

We all know you have an axe to grind, but you choose the wrong millstone, dread.

I doh even know why you studying TT...two things consistent wid he "God doh exist" and "it was Wim fault", lol

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Re: Child's play for Maturana.
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2008, 04:26:31 PM »

When last we had a coach that is brave enough to go to the "office" with a fully local line up (barring the foward line).  This man is securing our future and in the process making us very competitive.


Who did Benhakker leave for us? Where are the players who developed under Beenie? Can they take us forward?  Theobald? Spann? Glenn? where are they?

Where is the young defender who went to the world cup and is now ready to lead our team? Where is the young midfielder? Where is the winger?

It ent have none!!

So i support Maturana, do your thing.......i rather we lose 4-0 in Jamaica with this team who obviously seems to be learning.


Its harsh to throw away players who represented the RWB, but we have to understand that Spann Theobald and others were part of a generation that was not properly developed and never hit their true potential. By 2010 how Spann and them go compete for spots against Leston Paul, Adams, Daniel,  Hyland, and fellas who getting more and better experience at a younger age than they ever get?

If Cornell Glen had the kind of exposure Adams and Jamal Gay now getting he would be in the EPL or La Liga years ago and his injuries would be looked after by his club team, not left to rot by TTFF. Andre I totally agree with you.

It real sad to watch fellas like Spann and Glen struggling and not getting the accolades and contracts they deserve but that horse already bolt from the gate. If they could come thru then great.....but please don't subject a whole nother generation to the same ol neglect and apathy.

Maturana doing the hard thing but the right thing.

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Re: Child's play for Maturana.
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2008, 04:28:09 PM »
AS, I agree with you on the Maturana issue, we cool with that and I happy we are fielding some youths for the future... :beermug:

My only issue, which I don't agree on is that you think Lasana is trying to make confusing with his "objective eye opener" report.

Big Up!

Lasana is doing his job...asking the tough critical questions that's on the mind of a lot of people.  If is just praise and puffery people want to read then they should wait fuh de Shaun Fuentes version.

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Re: Child’s play for Colombian professor.
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2008, 05:02:46 PM »
Tallman, Guys,
                    All yuh must remember that before the Commusnist empire break up, Olympic football was very important. It was the second biggest international competition. Most countries with the exception of the Brits, take Olympic football seriously. If you win an Olympic medal in football, that is a great accomplishment. But Fifa dont' want Olympic football to supersede any of their tournaments. They always changing the age limit, etc, etc. They don't want the big name stars to play in that. More money for IOC, less money for Fifa.

Tallman, the last time, I remember  El Salv. beat TT in TT was 1967 for Olympic qualifier. I might be wrong. But you is the stas man. I remember going to the Oval in 75 to see TT play B'dos midweek. 15000 plus fans in the stands.

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Re: Child’s play for Colombian professor.
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2008, 08:34:14 PM »
Interesting to note that El Salvador's press is lamenting their inability to beat us @ home in 40 years of trying. Tallman, I'll leave the specifics to you. I don't know how many times we've played them @ home.

From lasana's article:
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Four starters from the Anguilla rout were absent on Wednesday while the scorers of 11 from the dozen goals were not in the starting team, which might half explain El Salvador's toothless performance. But it does not negate the attempt at patient, thoughtful play from the hosts.

As best as I can tell, El Salvador lacked three (3) players - in the touring party - Ronald Cerritos and Dennis Alas ...the USL players ... Alas scored against us during last year's Gold Cup ... and Eliseo Quintanilla (plays in Costa Rica for Alajuense).

Cerritos accounted for 3 of the goals v Anguilla. Quintanilla scored 1 item. Of the other 8 goals El Salvador scored versus Anguilla, 5 were scored by Rudis Corrales (who played this week; not sure whether he started); 2 by Shawn Hasani Martin (the naturalised Nicaraguan who opened the scoring v Anguilla; also on tour to T&T) and the remaining goal by Emerson Umana (also on tour of T&T).

It seems Lasana's nuance lies in who started and who didn't. Half explanation or not.

I was about to tell you to check your research again, but ah fella on bigsoccer put mih right. On first glance i was wondering where Lasana get he information from seein that the only name that correspond with the FIFA.com list from the qualifier was the keeper Ramon Gomez, but I only had the surnames to work with.

I clean forget that is latino we dealing with and they does have about 15 different surname.

so in truth and in fact of the following men

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Squad against T&T
1.Juan Gomez (capt), 8.William Castillo (17.William Alegria 67th), 19.Carlos Alfaro, 5.Ramon Aguirre, 16.Oscar Campos, 13.Emerson Corleto (20.Andres Mejia 59th), 9.Salvador Perez (14.Rudis Rivera 82nd), 3.Marvin Leiva, 4.Jose Mendoza (12.Alfredo Manuel 70th), 7.Ramon Peredez, 2.Luis Campos.
Subs that did not play: – 22.Miguel Moreno, 6.Alexander Rosales, 18.Luis Anaya.

Squad against Anguilla
Juan GOMEZ (GK), Luis HERNANDEZ, Marvin GONZALEZ Shawn MARTIN Osael ROMERO, Eliseo QUINTANILLA, Ronald CERRITOS, Manuel SALAZAR, Rudis CORRALES, Alfredo PACHECO (C) Oscar JIMENEZ
Subs:Ramon SANCHEZ, Emerson UMANA William TORRES

these is de same people
Juan Gomez, 
Oscar Campos/Jimenez,
Emerson Corleto/Umana,
Marvin Leiva/Gonzalez
Luis Campos/Hernandez,
Ramon Paredes/Sanchez,
William Alegria/Torres,
Rudis Corrales/Rivera
Alfredo Manuel/Pacheco

Salvador Coreas/Perez, Jose Torres/Mendoza, Ramon Flores/Aguirre - all bench against El Salvador and start against us.
Andres Mejia and Carlos Alfaro play us and was no way around for Anguilla

Miguel Montes/Moreno ent see a cobo sweat in either game (backup keeper?)

Some body say Osael Romero play as well against us but I cyah find him...unless HE is "William Castillo"
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Re: Child’s play for Colombian professor.
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2008, 05:29:56 PM »
Tallman, Guys,
 All yuh must remember that before the Commusnist empire break up, Olympic football was very important. It was the second biggest international competition. Most countries with the exception of the Brits, take Olympic football seriously. If you win an Olympic medal in football, that is a great accomplishment. But Fifa dont' want Olympic football to supersede any of their tournaments. They always changing the age limit, etc, etc. They don't want the big name stars to play in that. More money for IOC, less money for Fifa.

Tallman, the last time, I remember El Salv. beat TT in TT was 1967 for Olympic qualifier. I might be wrong. But you is the stas man. I remember going to the Oval in 75 to see TT play B'dos midweek. 15000 plus fans in the stands.

Interesting observation.

Add to that the movement to incorprorate professionals at the Olympics. It's a transition that the sporting world seems to have negotiated fairly well.

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Re: Child’s play for Colombian professor.
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2008, 06:26:03 PM »
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We are not called  'Tricky Trini' for nothing

Let  me  reframe this outcome and this so called 'friendly'  If the TTFF are astute, they would have had all the game film of this to study JA strategies. In this game, JA showed all what they have at full strentgh....... what did TNT show? I don't think that the team that we had on the field today would be the same that  TNT would face when we play JA again.

Leh we play more friendlies with a 'scout' team and when we ready for real qualifying matches......lawd look we should know lots about the opposition tendencies.

So strategicially  what did we gain you say ? a whole lot if the TTFF play their cards right. Then again is the TTFF.

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Re: Child's play for Maturana.
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2008, 08:19:57 PM »
What kind of article is this?

Is this motivating? Is it demotivating? Is it one that just states the facts?

Reading this article gives the impression that there is some kind ulterior motive!

Lisana, while acknowledging that the team improves, still appearing to want to shed some doubt or start some confusion.

He is indirectly criticizing the use of the young players..........a sure sign that you really cant please anybody these days!!

ah love it!!

I dunno, but I kinda beg to differ...I think he is saying..unless these young warriors are going to be on the team on a regular basis, where they can continue to gain the necessary experience and confidence, it doh really make sense just trowing dem in dey on a one off basis..

Child's play for Maturana.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express)


Maturana is experienced enough to know it is the Warriors' results in 2008 and 2009, not 2012 and 2013, that will decide his future job prospects. The benefit of the odd cap is debatable too.

Gay and left back Akeem Adams joined the likes of Dwight Yorke, Clint Marcelle and Brian Williams on a list of schoolboys who represented their country at senior international level. That inventory also includes, for the record, Marvin Gordon and Addae Rique.

In short, unless Gay is going to be a regular traveller with the seniors-as Stern John was, 12 years ago-then how much would he benefit from the occasional cap as opposed to putting his head down and trying to make his name with the under-20s ?


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well since in football confidence is 9/10 of de law I suspect that it is not a waste throwing in de youngsters because they would be a level above their under-20 counterparts on the field and provide experience to their teamates.
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