FIFA Ranking Thread.

[Pompey]

I always thought the rankings are based on the amount of cash FIFA can extract from the national football association rather than the success of the football team.

Lemme guess.  If it were an "honest" ranking, England would be #1? 

We've got no money left, we gave it all to Sven

[jub02]

I think Brasil are still 1..italy should be way down. England should maybe stay around 9 i think truthfully..even tho wen they play the right Formation COugh SVEN .. lol they are seriously better.like the argentina v england game friendly that was a good match for both sides so then they wud both be near the top but now they will be down as they both out.

Really i think france deserve a top spot at some point. But everyone should be higher than USA

[Carib-Briton]

TNT will move like 10 spots at the most I think

Ten spots on A draw on two loses? Hell Nooooooooooo

[UK_Soca_warrior]

Realistically TnT may move 5 points at most, and thats being generous enough. We dont deserve to move much more to be honest. Since the start of the new year,

1 win - 2-0 Iceland
5 defeats - 3 WC friendlies and 2 WC matches
2 draws - 1-1 Peru  0-0 Sweden
(Cant count friendlies against club sides)

Thats bad!!!

If we want to be making big moves, we need to be quarter/semi/finalist for the Gold Cup on a regular basis, and win lots of Class A games. E.g Japan this summer, Ghana later. We have to win win win against World Teams!

[palos]

I always thought the rankings are based on the amount of cash FIFA can extract from the national football association rather than the success of the football team.

Lemme guess.  If it were an "honest" ranking, England would be #1? 

We've got no money left, we gave it all to Sven

LOL...Nice one...

[Blue]

TNT will move like 10 spots at the most I think

Ten spots on A draw on two loses? Hell Nooooooooooo

I think we'll actually go down in the rankings.

Our last 7 results read: Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 5.

Including defeats against Wales and Slovenia who are ranked well below us

[jub02]

but u made it to the world cup..and they didnt.

[UK_Soca_warrior]

but u made it to the world cup..and they didnt.

But that should have little bearing on anything. At the end of the day, we didnt win the world cup, get to the last 4, quarters, or even last 16's. We didnt win a game or score a goal.

Where did we finish out of 32 teams?? Nobody knows, because they dont rank teams based on fairy tale WC performances.

We have to do our homework, and win win win and progress in the Gold Cup to the latter stages on a regular basis. Thats the only true and fair way for us to progress up the rankings.

[ttcom]

FIFA has announced that the ranking system will be updated again following the 2006 World Cup. The evaluation period will be cut from eight to four years and the rankings will be based on a simplified method of calculation.[2] The new calculation principles will be released to the public in Berlin during the final week of the 2006 World Cup, with the new rankings to be released on 12 July 2006.

[FF]

FIFA has announced that the ranking system will be updated again following the 2006 World Cup. The evaluation period will be cut from eight to four years and the rankings will be based on a simplified method of calculation.[2] The new calculation principles will be released to the public in Berlin during the final week of the 2006 World Cup, with the new rankings to be released on 12 July 2006.

And as I have said before... we going and get some hard jamming!!

Because... all we good results from 1998-2001 getting thrown out... especially that undefeated year in 1999! This period was our largest point gains ever in de rankings....

Now that they going de last 4 years.... taking into account other teams falling as well..... I think we will end up sixty something in de rankings maybe fifty-something!! Possibly much lower!

[Midknight]

Where did we finish out of 32 teams?? Nobody knows, because they dont rank teams based on fairy tale WC performances.

Actually oficially we finished 27th in front of Serbia, Costa Rica, Togo, Japan and Saudi Arabia (in no particular order) ...

[Midknight]

FIFA has announced that the ranking system will be updated again following the 2006 World Cup. The evaluation period will be cut from eight to four years and the rankings will be based on a simplified method of calculation.[2] The new calculation principles will be released to the public in Berlin during the final week of the 2006 World Cup, with the new rankings to be released on 12 July 2006.

And as I have said before... we going and get some hard jamming!!

Because... all we good results from 1998-2001 getting thrown out... especially that undefeated year in 1999! This period was our largest point gains ever in de rankings....

Now that they going de last 4 years.... taking into account other teams falling as well..... I think we will end up sixty something in de rankings maybe fifty-something!! Possibly much lower!

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[b]15-Jun-2006  NUREMBERG (Germany)  England vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]10-Jun-2006  DORTMUND (Germany)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Sweden 0:0  [/b]
[b]28-Feb-2006  LONDON (England)  Iceland vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:1)  [/b]
[b]16-Nov-2005  MANAMA (Bahrain)  Bahrain vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]12-Oct-2005  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 2:1 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]8-Oct-2005  PANAMA CITY (Panama)  Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]3-Sep-2005  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 3:2 (0:1)  [/b]
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[b]10-Jul-2005  MIAMI (USA)  Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:2 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]6-Jul-2005  MIAMI (USA)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Honduras 1:1 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]4-Jun-2005  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Panama 2:0 (1:0)  [/b]
[b]30-Mar-2005  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Costa Rica 0:0  [/b] 
[b]10-Oct-2004  MARABELLA (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 5:1 (2:1)  [/b]
[b]4-Sep-2004  BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)  St. Kitts and Nevis vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]18-Aug-2004  KINGSTOWN (St. Vincent and the Grenadines)  St. Vincent / Grenadines vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:0)  [/b]

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[b]14-Jul-2004  SEOUL (Korea Republic)  Korea Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]20-Jun-2004  MARABELLA (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominican Republic 4:0 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]13-Jun-2004  SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic)  Dominican Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]23-May-2004  WEST BROMWICH (England)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Iraq 2:0 (1:0)  [/b]
[b]31-Mar-2004  CAIRO (Egypt)  Egypt vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]19-Nov-2003  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba 2:1 (2:0)  [/b] [b]2-Aug-2003  BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)  St. Kitts and Nevis vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 (0:2)  [/b]

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[b]3-Jul-2003  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Venezuela 2:2 (0:1)  [/b]
[b]14-Jun-2003  PORT ELIZABETH (South Africa)  South Africa vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]10-Jun-2003  GABORONE (Botswana)  Botswana vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:0  [/b]
[b]31-May-2003  NAIROBI (Kenya)  Kenya vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]28-Mar-2003  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Western Samoa vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]26-Mar-2003  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Antigua and Barbuda 2:0 (1:0)  [/b]
[b]15-Nov-2002  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. St. Kitts and Nevis 2:0 (1:0)  [/b]


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[b]25-Jul-2002  BASSETERRE (St. Kitts and Nevis)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Barbados 0:0 [/b]
[b]20-Jan-2002  MIAMI (USA)  Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]11-Jan-2002  ST. GEORGE'S (Grenada)  Grenada vs. Trinidad and Tobago 2:3 (1:1)  [/b]
[b]11-Nov-2001  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. USA 0:0  [/b]
[b]7-Oct-2001  SAN PEDRO SULA (Honduras)  Honduras vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]5-Sep-2001  MEXICO CITY (Mexico)  Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 (2:0) [/b]
[b]3-Aug-2001  SHANGHAI (China PR)  Kuwait vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:1 a.e.t (1:1, 0:0) 4:3 PSO  [/b]

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[b]17-May-2001  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 2:1 (0:1)  [/b]
[b]15-May-2001  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Barbados 5:0  [/b]
[b]25-Apr-2001  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:1 (1:0)  [/b]
[b]24-Mar-2001  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 3:1  [/b]
[b]15-Nov-2000  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Panama vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:1)  [/b]
[b]3-Sep-2000  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Canada 4:0 (2:0)  [/b]
[b]16-Aug-2000  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Panama 6:0 (3:0)  [/b]

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[b]23-Jul-2000  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Mexico 1:0 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]16-Jul-2000  EDMONTON (Canada)  Canada vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:2 (0:1)  [/b]
[b]16-Apr-2000  SAN CRISTOBAL (Dominican Republic)  Dominican Republic vs. Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]2-Apr-2000  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominican Republic 3:0 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]20-Feb-2000  SAN DIEGO (USA)  Costa Rica vs. Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 a.e.t (1:1, 0:1) [/b] 
[b]15-Feb-2000  LOS ANGELES (USA)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala 4:2 (2:1) [/b] 
[b]8-Sep-1999  MIAMI (USA)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Colombia 4:3  [/b]

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[b]11-Jun-1999  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 6:1  [/b]
[b]5-Jun-1999  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Grenada 7:0  [/b] [b]3-Jun-1999  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 1:0  [/b]
[b]6-May-1999  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. South Africa 2:0 (0:0)[/b] 
[b]28-Mar-1999  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Jamaica 2:0 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]29-Jul-1998  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti 4:1 (0:0)  [/b]
[b]26-Jul-1998  PORT OF SPAIN (Trinidad and Tobago)  Trinidad and Tobago vs. Dominica 8:0 (0:0)  [/b]


Before the old calculation took into count the best 7 results in a year (from the month of evalutation) weighting each year progressively up to 8 years.

Now it'll  only take into account 4 years. Before this qualifying cycle started and after the 2000 semifinals, we had some serious shit results, so those who expecting us to leap in the rankings better take they time...

[Bally]

Italy to be big mover in new rankings system
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Associated Press
Posted: 7 hours ago     
 
 
 
 BERLIN (AP) - Italy should be the big mover when FIFA releases its revised ranking system after the World Cup final.

FIFA WORLD RANKING
Top 20 May 2006 
 
Rank  Country  Points  +/- 
1  Brazil  827  -- 
2  Czech Rep.  772  -- 
3  Netherlands  768  -- 
4  Mexico  758  +2 
5  USA  756  -1 
5  Spain  756  -- 
7  Portugal  750  +1 
8  France  749  -1 
9  Argentina  746  -1 
10  England  741  -- 
11  Nigeria  736  +1 
11  Denmark  736  -- 
13  Italy  728  +1 
14  Turkey  726  -1 
15  Cameroon  722  -- 
16  Sweden  709  -- 
17  Egypt  708  +1 
18  Japan  705  -1 
19  Germany  696  -- 
20  Greece  694  -1 
 
Ranking criteria 
 
 
 

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Brazil, already well clear using the old format, is expected to remain atop the FIFA rankings when the new formula is released next Wednesday.

Italy plays France in Sunday's World Cup final.

Marius Schneider, FIFA's head of information services, told The Associated Press on Thursday that Italy could move into the top three depending on the final outcome. He expected Brazil to remain No. 1 regardless.

If the new method for calculating rankings was applied before the World Cup, Brazil would have led Czech Republic, Argentina, England and Spain, with France sixth and Italy 10th.

"Italy and Germany will move well," he said. "The teams that lose the most will be the ones like Cameroon and Nigeria, that would have been in the Top 10 under the new system but didn't qualify for the World Cup.

"The United States, which had good results at the 2002 World Cup, will lose those points and drop back."

Under the new system, results will be counted over a four-year period, with weight given to the strength of opponents and the caliber of the tournament.

The existing system, introduced in August 1993, calculates results across eight years and factors in the number of goals scored and conceded. It has long been criticized for being too complicated.

From now, every result will count, with three points given for a win, one point for a draw and nothing for a loss. Various factors like tournament level and standard of regional competitions also are accounted for.

Points from all matches will lose half their value after 12 months, meaning if Italy gained the maximum points for winning the World Cup, it would lose 50 percent of those by July 2007.

The system is designed to give maximum weight to the most recent matches.

"It's a change, we can certainly expect there to be some surprises, but don't expect a massive revolution," Schneider said. "The teams that will benefit most are the ones that win important matches against higher-ranked teams."

FIFA president Sepp Blatter said the new system was more simple.

"We have acknowledged the need for a substantial revision. I am convinced our experts have come up with a satisfactory solution for a new way of calculating rankings," Blatter said in a statement. "It is difficult to meet everybody's expectations, but we are confident that the new system will provide an accurate measure of the strength of each member association."


 

[royal]

Changes will be made after this summer's World Cup in Germany
Fifa has announced an overhaul of its world ranking system after complaints that it was too complicated.
The main change is that a national team's ranking will be based on results from the last four years, not eight.

Goals scored and home advantage will no longer have any bearing on placings and other aspects, including importance and strength of matches, have been revised.

The changes will come into effect after the World Cup ends on Sunday, with the first new rankings revealed on 12 July.

Fifa president Sepp Blatter said: "I am convinced that our experts have come up with a satisfactory solution for a new way of calculating the ranking.

"We have acknowledged the need for a substantial revision. We are aware that it is difficult to meet everybody's expectations but are confident that the new system will provide an accurate measure of the strength of each of our member associations."


bbc
 

[Organic]

well it coulnda get any more bloddy complicated now could it

[andre samuel]

Ghana will be the biggest movers!

[jose]

well its about time cuase i eh understand how de ass usa is no 5 in the world

[Pompey]

well its about time cuase i eh understand how de ass usa is no 5 in the world

no matter how easy or complicated the system is, if it shows USA as 5th, then anyone with a pair of eyes can see the system is wrong!

[samo]

Quote from: jose on Today at 07:13:22 AM
well its about time cuase i eh understand how de ass usa is no 5 in the world

no matter how easy or complicated the system is, if it shows USA as 5th, then anyone with a pair of eyes can see the system is wrong!

Frigging Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see the system is crap.

 

[Observer]

 

[jub02]

i been sayin it suck for ages but i still see people on here comparing teams to ther rankings .

[jonny]

Down from 47 to 64 in the New FIFA World Ranking.


http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Jul-2006,00.html

[voodoofoo]

Dat list still is complete rubbish and will ever be...

[rocwell]

http://fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,118178,00.html?articleid=118178

Italy leap to second place
(FIFA.com) 12 Jul 2006

Four-time world champions Italy's latest triumph is also reflected in the latest FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking. The Azzurri have leaped 11 places to second and are now at the head of the chasing pack behind Brazil, who stay on top.

The positions of the teams at the top of the ranking mirror their performances at the 2006 FIFA World Cup™. Besides minor changes to other countries' positions in the Top Ten, there was also one other prime mover, the host nation Germany (9th, up 10), who thanks to convincing displays in front of their home fans find themselves back among the world's best teams for the first time in more than two years. Thanks to their performances at the World Cup, three other big gainers are Switzerland (13th, up 22), the Ukraine (15th, up 30) and Ghana (25th, up 23).

The new FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking takes a different look at African football and places teams such as Nigeria and Cameroon, who only narrowly failed to qualify for the World Cup, just outside the Top Ten. As expected, the teams from North America and Asia whom fortune did not favour at the World Cup (Mexico, USA, Iran, Japan and Korea Republic) have slipped down the ranking.

A new method has been used to calculate this eagerly awaited first World Ranking since the 2006 FIFA World Cup™, which not only introduces major changes in points allocation and the assessment of the opposition's strength, but also makes such factors as the importance of the match and regional strength easier to understand. This new formula and the big points hauls gained from World Cup matches has led to a complete shake up in the ranking. Besides the effect of the World Cup matches, the change in the evaluation period has also led to a major shift. Now only the last four years (48 months) count, with each year weighted differently.

- The next FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking will be published on 16 August 2006.

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Rank    Team Pts: Jul 06 +/-Rank May 06 +/-Pts: May 06
1       Brazil        1630    0      803
2       Italy    1550    11    822
3       Argentina    1472    6    726
4       France    1462    4    713
5       England    1434    5    693
6       Netherlands    1322    -3    554
7       Spain    1309    -2    553
8       Portugal    1301    -1    551
9       Germany    1229    10    533
10      Czech Republic 1223    -8    451
11      Nigeria    1149    0      413
12      Cameroon    1109    3    387
13      Switzerland    1028    22    380
14      Uruguay    985    8      296
15      Ukraine    961    30    352
16      USA    933    -11    177
17      Denmark    927    -6      191
18      Mexico    924    -14    166
19      Paraguay    915    14      262
20      Côte d'Ivoire 909    12      240
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38 Honduras 695 4      83
45 Costa Rica 636 -19    -47
53 Guatemala 587 9      22
54 Canada 567 29      52
59 Panama 522 22      -1
64 T&T 487 -17    -117
78 Jamaica 409 -32    -198

[Cowen]

This doesn't make any sense

[Sam]

Panana, Guatemala, Honduras and CANADA over us..... what a blasted joke....

If we reach over 75 does this mean our players cannot sign a UK contract.

[saga pinto]

Another example of how corruption have no end and I fear that when-ever you see this type of disparity,most die hard and new fans are simply disgusted,not to say the least turned off.

[Pompey]

Panana, Guatemala, Honduras and CANADA over us..... what a blasted joke....

If we reach over 75 does this mean our players cannot sign a UK contract.

I don't think these rankings are even worth worrying about, they are so far off the mark.

I'm not sure if TnT nationals need a work permit for the UK do they? if so, then they use an avaerage ranking over a period of time, rather than the ranking that applies at the time of the application. Any rejections are usually overturned by appeal anyway.

[saga pinto]

I just tell my wife we drop from 47th to 64th and she say how's that possible is it because we did'nt score any goals or win any games..........

[Brownsugar]

SSSttteeeuppps....ah know something was wrong with this blasted thing when ah see team like de USA ranking 5th and ting....

And what de hell Canada do in de last month to rank above we.....Chupss I say, Chupsss...