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St. Anthony's Freekick
« on: September 06, 2008, 11:18:15 AM »
St. Anthony's College scored what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal (which was allowed) by Qian Grovsnor. There are some who are insisting that the goal should not have been allowed because he "passed" the ball to himself.
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?

http://schoolsoccernet.com/Multimedia/VideoManagement/VideoPlayer/TabId/113/VideoId/57/St-Anthonys-Goal-Qian-Grovsnor.aspx

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 11:24:32 AM »
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 11:25:56 AM »
that is no goal!

how the ref let that stand?
         

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 11:26:42 AM »
Nice Goal ;D

BUT as I read the rule he cant touch the ball a second time until it has been touched by another player
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 11:29:27 AM »
Dais grovie son..or his nephew?
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 11:31:38 AM »
ref must have thought the other fella took a touch.

to me it looked like the guy passed the ball to himself which is not legit. Should not be a goal from what I could see.

what next. man go try to walk the ball in the goal from de penalty spot?

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 11:31:58 AM »
that is no goal!

how the ref let that stand?

Well this is what I am trying to clarify. For a DIRECT freekick isn't the ball active after it is touched (shoot, pass)? Which means that the same play can touch the ball again if necessary?

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 11:35:18 AM »
that is no goal!

how the ref let that stand?

Well this is what I am trying to clarify. For a DIRECT freekick isn't the ball active after it is touched (shoot, pass)? Which means that the same play can touch the ball again if necessary?

for a direct free kick or indirect free kick the player cannot touch the ball again after passing it off. That constitutes a pass to himself.

That free kick looked like it was an indirect, because if in fact it was a direct free kick and the other player touched it to grovesnor it would be illegal as well..

so if that was really a DIRECT free kick it wrong on many counts.
         

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 11:44:23 AM »
St. Anthony's College scored what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal (which was allowed) by Qian Grovsnor. There are some who are insisting that the goal should not have been allowed because he "passed" the ball to himself.
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?

http://schoolsoccernet.com/Multimedia/VideoManagement/VideoPlayer/TabId/113/VideoId/57/St-Anthonys-Goal-Qian-Grovsnor.aspx

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 11:46:08 AM »

That free kick looked like it was an indirect, because if in fact it was a direct free kick and the other player touched it to grovesnor it would be illegal as well..


huh? Explain that.
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 11:53:19 AM »

That free kick looked like it was an indirect, because if in fact it was a direct free kick and the other player touched it to grovesnor it would be illegal as well..


huh? Explain that.

just re-read what i type and think i make a mistake..

was referring to the rule that you can take a direct shot from an indirect free kick, and then was applying the rule in reverse to a direct free kick.

my bad.
         

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 11:59:32 AM »
Absolutely NO GOAL!

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2008, 12:00:24 PM »

That free kick looked like it was an indirect, because if in fact it was a direct free kick and the other player touched it to grovesnor it would be illegal as well..


huh? Explain that.

just re-read what i type and think i make a mistake..

was referring to the rule that you can take a direct shot from an indirect free kick, and then was applying the rule in reverse to a direct free kick.

my bad.

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008, 12:04:09 PM »
That goal isn't good.....A player can't pass to himself for indirect or direct freekicks.

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 12:30:46 PM »
Dais grovie son..or his nephew?

He look like Grovie, fro an all  :devil:
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2008, 12:37:08 PM »
ref must have thought the other fella took a touch.

to me it looked like the guy passed the ball to himself which is not legit. Should not be a goal from what I could see.

what next. man go try to walk the ball in the goal from de penalty spot?

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I can't believe the ref allowed that to stand.

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2008, 01:39:04 PM »
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?
The goal should not have been given. As a matter of fact, St. Mary's should have been awarded an indirect free-kick.

Free Kick Outside the Penalty Area
• all opponents must be at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball until it is in play
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves
• the free kick is taken from the place where the infringement occurred or from the position of the ball when the infringement occurred (according to the infringement)

Free kick taken by a player other than the goalkeeper
If, after the ball is in play, the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)


If, after the ball is in play, the kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another player:
• a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)

• a penalty kick is awarded if the infringement occurred inside the kicker’s penalty area
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2008, 04:32:08 PM »
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?
The goal should not have been given. As a matter of fact, St. Mary's should have been awarded an indirect free-kick.

Free Kick Outside the Penalty Area
• all opponents must be at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball until it is in play
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves
• the free kick is taken from the place where the infringement occurred or from the position of the ball when the infringement occurred (according to the infringement)

Free kick taken by a player other than the goalkeeper
If, after the ball is in play, the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)


If, after the ball is in play, the kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another player:
• a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)

• a penalty kick is awarded if the infringement occurred inside the kicker’s penalty area
in an indirect freekick..doesn't the ball have to move a full rotation?..not just touched or stood up on?
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2008, 05:12:03 PM »
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?
The goal should not have been given. As a matter of fact, St. Mary's should have been awarded an indirect free-kick.

Free Kick Outside the Penalty Area
• all opponents must be at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball until it is in play
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves
• the free kick is taken from the place where the infringement occurred or from the position of the ball when the infringement occurred (according to the infringement)

Free kick taken by a player other than the goalkeeper
If, after the ball is in play, the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)


If, after the ball is in play, the kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another player:
• a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)

• a penalty kick is awarded if the infringement occurred inside the kicker’s penalty area
in an indirect freekick..doesn't the ball have to move a full rotation?..not just touched or stood up on?
       The ball does not have to move a full rotation any more,that rule was updated some years now.

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 10:35:04 AM »
Dais grovie son..or his nephew?

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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2008, 11:45:48 AM »
It would have been good to see where the referee was standing.
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Re: St. Anthony's Freekick
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2008, 11:54:58 AM »
This was a direct freekick...so to the best of my knowledge the referee was perfectly correct in allowing the goal....just to be clear what is the exact ruling pertaining to this specific situation?
The goal should not have been given. As a matter of fact, St. Mary's should have been awarded an indirect free-kick.

Free Kick Outside the Penalty Area
• all opponents must be at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball until it is in play
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves
• the free kick is taken from the place where the infringement occurred or from the position of the ball when the infringement occurred (according to the infringement)

Free kick taken by a player other than the goalkeeper
If, after the ball is in play, the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)


If, after the ball is in play, the kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another player:
• a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick)

• a penalty kick is awarded if the infringement occurred inside the kicker’s penalty area
in an indirect freekick..doesn't the ball have to move a full rotation?..not just touched or stood up on?
       The ball does not have to move a full rotation any more,that rule was updated some years now.

The 'second touch' terminology was recently updated to read 'touch again'. It also applies on corner kick, goal kick, throw in.

 

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