Eh trini not doing that, the only thing the will shurley do together is look foward to christmas ,carnival .
Zulu, I agree with you on this one, Trinis is fun loving people
Deeks, My opinion is that the outsiders doing de killing in TT.
How exactly do you define outsider? Just for my education....
Eh trini not doing that, the only thing the will shurley do together is look foward to christmas ,carnival .
Zulu, I agree with you on this one, Trinis is fun loving people
Deeks, My opinion is that the outsiders doing de killing in TT.
interesting... what is your definition of 'outsider'
Well according to Websters Dictionary 'a person who does not belong to a particular group'
Am I not allowed to state my opinion?
So ah guess yuhs an insider? and yes your allowed to have an opinion no matter how idiotic and nonsensical it may be.
for the record let me you on something, if you're not ah native trinidadian my friend (carib/ arawak) then you're an outsider! since most of the black ppl living in this former british colony came from grenada , st vincent, guyana , guadelope.
in the 1800s when the colony had less than 10,000 ppl it was seemingly not enough man power to maintain the colony so the crown went ahead and imported thousands of slaves from guyana , st vencent, grenada, and guadelope, so the next time you call ppl outsiders , you might just be talking bout yuh self since it's near to impossible to find ah true trini from the first batch of imported labor.
if in doubt , go read ah book called the history of trinidad and tobago by DR Eric Eustace Williams.
another thing ! i had and still have real bad cousins living in laventille and their great grand mother was ah pure native trinidadian (carib). so there goes your theory.
most of the crime in T&T is committed by youths ranging in age 14 -30, so yuh go tell me is lil boys from the smaller islands doing all that crime right ?
this is the kinda dotish talk dat does drive me nuts, it still have ppl like you in T&T? i thought that was ah outdated mentality that died with the old uneducate folks who predicated this kinda foolishness.
ppl came from all over the world and the caribbean to create this melting pot we call trinidad and if yuh check most of our hero's , they probably have roots elsewhere.
come on guy be ah little more sophisticated in yuh analysis nah dread, it's the same backward way of thinking the yanks have towards us caribbeans here in the USA and it's ah very disheartening feeling to say the least, so let us put dat ignorant outdated way of thinking to bed once and for all.
remeber when you point a finger three more if pointing back @ you. positive
Listen leh meh correck yuh on ah FEW fax and dem.
Spain was not directly involve in de transatlantic slaving ting, and especially since Trinidad was not a place of big farms, plantations and mines, there was no need for many slaves as well as de fact dat most ah de spanish and dem here was poor so dey could not aford many slaves..PERIOD! So there were some slaves in Trinidad but mostly the mix was free african and spanish mix, african and amerindian mix and de spanish and dem deyself.
There were indeed around
10,000 enslaved people on de island around 1797. The majority were "Creoles'" people born in de french west indian colonies, or Grenada Dem talk patois (broken french) and were catholics.
when the Brits took over in 1797, dey immediatley (being de largest slave traders) started to import slaves FROM AFRICA! not de otehr colonies in de caribbean as you saying. in five years de slave population reached 20,000 right up to emancipation, the brits kept bringing slaves to trinidad from Africa and dat made trinidad for de first time a colony that had plantations and became a plantation economy.
around 3800 come from africa between 1784 and 1792 and
Dat resulted in Trinidad having a higher proportion of African born people than even barbados which ahd a 200 year slave history.
So by 1813 de african population was outnumbering de Creoles and made up around 60% of de population in Trinidad.
After 1807, when England abolish the trans atlantic slave shipments is then they start to flourish. dis is where yuh correck just cool. slaves in trinidad were more costly than in Barbados and Jamaica and grenada because there were so few, thousands were brought to Trinidad between 1807 and 1834, some come legally, but de majority came as "domestic workers'" but as soon as they reach Trinidad they sell dem as fild laboureres.
people does always say that Trinidad slaves were treated better than slaves in other islands, dat is ka-ka talk, low bith rates and high mortality rates attest tuh de brutality of dat system
Manumission was rare in Trinidad and slavery was heriditary! dey used to list slaves alongside equipment and livestock...pure chattel. Slavery was so hard on de slaves in trinidad that even with de importations, de number sdeclined between 1807 and 1834
Imagine if yuh father was free and yuh mother was ah slave when you born, you was a slave.
And in trinidad there were some free blacks who used to own dey own slaves too.
Thank God for haiti oui, if dem didnt revolt and start t kill de slave owners, slavery possibly would have tarried a bit longer, white people was afraid of obeahman and getting poison so dey was very careful.
Imagine in 1802 we had 20,000 slaves in trinidad and by de time dey emancipate slaves in 1838, there were only 20,000 people to set free, that despite de amount dey import from africa up to 1807 and den from the other caribbean islands after that!!!!
One thing about slavery in T&T it lasted for about 50years alone, compared to Barbados and jamaica and even tobago.
Another ting de first set of slaves in T&T were creoles from de french west indies and grenada dem was afro french, catholic and dem used to speak patois.