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What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« on: March 28, 2009, 08:32:22 AM »
Reading one of vbs posts jogged my memory of hearing about suite and what he brought to the local game, so often i heard it from people close to me growing up, but no one has ever went into to detail about why suite was so successful?

So i pose a question to the elders, what made suite so successful with ASL? What did he do to generate the support and bring on the crowds to games, the state of the pro league is shameful, so what exactly did suite do which was far more successful in capturing the local football fraternity?

Also what happened to him?
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 08:34:53 AM »
Jackula wasn't involved.....

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 08:36:53 AM »
Jackula wasn't involved.....

come nah man, what did suite do that the pro league not doing?

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 09:34:13 AM »
Football culture was alive and kicking, that is why he was successfull.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 09:45:56 AM »
Jackula wasn't involved.....

come nah man, what did suite do that the pro league not doing?

Fans & crowd. Football is not football without supporters. Have you ever watched a Champions League game where the crowd was banned and it was behind close doors? It never feels the same. You could never watch the whole game.
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 10:01:44 AM »
Suite had mucho dineros and he brought that to football.It was a well advertised league.Fixtures didn't change and it was played at night in PSA.Just imagine 10,000 people to see ASL vs Tesca.Each team had at least one marquee player,most teams had quite a few.
Any well advertise league in Trinidad eg Super10 basketball under Fackoory has been well supported.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 11:21:35 AM »
Suite had mucho dineros and he brought that to football.It was a well advertised league.Fixtures didn't change and it was played at night in PSA.Just imagine 10,000 people to see ASL vs Tesca.Each team had at least one marquee player,most teams had quite a few.
Any well advertise league in Trinidad eg Super10 basketball under Fackoory has been well supported.
       You are correct in your reports here but there are a few things that affected Suite,that league was not a sanctioned league by the Federation,i also think at the time when the league folded they was loosing money,when you look at the prize money,payments to ASL players,hosting teams that came to play here,although the crowds looked huge after a time it could not support the franchise.
        Yes ASL may have been successful from a Football point of view but not sure from a financial point of view,what made ASL so successfull was the best players/teams in the country played in the league,the best Coaches/officials were involved,games were played mainly in POS,cost was reasonable to go to a game.
         I must say advertisement and all the modern day stuff is fine but if we don't lift the level of Football at home,bring it back to days of the past nothing will bring back the crowds,there will always be arguemen ts and debates about who better or who was better than who,the game is suffering while all this nonsense talk is taking place and it's not getting us any where.
         I don't profess to have the answers but there is no one solution for what we have to do to improve Football in our country,it's the reason we are so inconsistent,always trying/experimenting with ideas/views,we don't have a structure that affords us the luxury of having our best players at all levels consistently when ever we want to and it's where our main problem lies,it's hard to point fingers at any one because for anything to work everything have to come together.         

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 12:44:35 PM »
It has been said over and over that timing is everything and that is what made Arthur Suite's intervention into the football arena memorable. The vision he had for football in T&T is having it's living reality today. Football was not at the level it could have been so he introduced a league which brought players with skill, purpose and a lot more added to the forefront. It was a community thing with all converging on the PSA grounds to see the best  at the time. The standard and quality of football and football players just went from 2 to 8. It happened overnight it would seem.
There are names that still hang around from that era like Spann, La Forest and others that are bound to be mentioned when we talk about football development in T&T. It was not then, and will never be a dying sport. Arthur capitalized on a non-functioning TTFF league and brought a life to the game that was important and very well perhaps unprecedented. Hence the reason why it was not sanctioned by FIFA.
Jack Warner's birth into the control of football emerged then and we are reaping the rewards today. What he did by preventing the league from prospering cannot be forgotten. Incidentally he, Jack, is the only man with the kind of vision for football in T&T today. How ironic that is, even though it is to fill his pockets.
Arthur Suite could have achieved much more but what he did to stabilize football and bring attention to players with real class who could have been exposed to the world stage cannot be forgotten. It was a really lively and extensively attractive time for football then.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 11:50:02 AM »
There are those here like Deeks or Coops who could probably contribute more to this thread than I, however, the start of my football peongness was greatly stimulated by A. Suite's endeavours.

As a yute in the early 80s, I had vaguely heard of the PSL and Suite and some problems with the TTFA.

In early 1982, Suite brought down Arsenal to play ASL at the QPO.

I was in awe, as I saw ASL gallery with beat and win 3-2. With John Granville almost (getting a hand to it) saving an Arsenal penalty.

In the next year and a half, Suite brought down teams like Flamenco, the World Club Champs, Paulista Corinthians Captained By the Brazil Capt., Socrates. Man U, Tottenham Hotspurs, Swedish Champs, FC Gothenburgh and the Republic of Ireland. With the exception of Ireland, they lost these games. However, in most games, they played some scintillating football.

Men like Ron La Forest, Granville, Lobo Joseph, B. Williams and Maurice Alibey became local super stars.

In those days Liverpool RULED British football. Can you believe men (who were real ballers) started to wonder if one day they would become good enough to play for ASL. Nobody was fantasizing about Eng. clubs no more. We had our own local heroes.

When Suite formed the break away league back around 2004, Jack immediately had him and anybody with him labelled "persona non grata(sp)"

However, EVERYBODY was talking about this league. The best from the communities were being put up against other communities.

I can't remember after all these years, who was there and who wasn't. As a school boy, no way the folks was letting me out at night to go PSA :-). People were talking not just about the games, but simple things like Referees being paid on time.

Jack shamelessly had the country playing with a B team as the best played in Suite's league.

By bringing down the best in the world and pitting them against the locals, he stimulated interest in the local game. We literally got spoilt with the nice teams coming down.  ;D

I will never forget the thrill of watching Flamenco play live at the National Stadium, first time it ever sold out. And watching ASL hold their own. Watching Zico, Juhnior and Eder LIVE. Lord, what a thrill.

Community football was so good that teams like Barataria Ball Players, St. Francois Nationals, Pt Fortin, Tacarigua UNited etc good give ASL a good run. Of course DF as well :-)

Arthur Suite brought an interest to local football that no one has ever been able to match. And he had money to boot. Jack cah handle a man like dat. He need incompetent fools around him, to continue to look like TT's football Godfather.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 12:25:06 PM »
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 12:39:29 PM »
educate me plz.

who is arthur suite? a big business man?

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 01:04:01 PM »
He ran a company called Aviation Services Ltd. (ASL).

They provided the airport with "some kind of service."  ;D

Doh exactly know what...maybe cleaning plane or something :-)

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 01:40:22 PM »
i remember them and the ASL side.

as i was small i didn't know bout the business side.

what happen to suite?

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 01:59:38 PM »
Thanks VB
"Jack cah handle a man like dat. He need incompetent fools around him,"

Jackula wasn't involved.....
I feel is because Suite was NOT a FIFA man..................and ONLY that ;)
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 02:05:16 PM »
The main reason was that Jack Warner was NOT involved.  You had teams representing areas and you had fan support.  Something Jack warner did his best to destroy, he decimated teams like Maple, Malvern, Falcons,  and Sporting Club etc.  When players stood up to him he declared them persona non grata.  He was not involved, so he was not making money...Those days English football was starting to have lots of black players who weremaking headlines and we saw the games on colour tv big time!

I remember in 1982 Hotspurs came down and played against ASL.  Spurs had ben knocking big ball then FA cup winners had men like Ardiles, hoddle and Ricky villa, dem men were big time players and world cup heroes.

Jack also did away with the North vs South classic which greatly fueled fan support.  Tunapuna EC School Association ( TESCA) garnered huge fan support.  

All kinda teams used to come to T&T for winter camps and play against local teams.  As VB said nobody wanted to play in England, is ASL man was fighting to play in ASL, we national team was made up B teamers, as Jackula had banned all ah dem for playing in de ASL.

Yes Suite had real money de man did own plenty planes and he ahd offices all over de place.

SIDE BAR*******As for T&T football we easily dispatch de US 5-1 in Pan American games before I think it was 1971.

In 1973 the US did not even qualify for the qualifers for the WC  we all know Haiti went as CONCACAF rep.
The US went from obscure to qualifying for nearly every youth world cup while we squandered an entire generation of players due to mimanagement by the then TTFA!


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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2009, 02:20:45 PM »
Excerpted from

The Story of T&T Football
By Valentino Singh


Between 1974 and 1987, some 121 foreign teams visited Trinidad.

Among them were several English club teams, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspurs, Arsenal, Southampton, Everton, the Brazilian Under 20s, Nautico, the Italian Under 21 team, Sweden, Cuba, Bradford City, Hearts of Scotland.

Some of these teams, ironically, were brought to the country by an organisation which the TTFA outlawed in 1981.

The body was called the Trinidad and Tobago Premier Soccer League (TTPSL) and it was the brainchild of businessman Arthur Suite.

Suite who owned the Aviation Services Limited (ASL) introduced ‘the professional footballer’ to Trinidad and Tobago, forming the ASL Sports Club which became the first organisation to pay its players, despite the fact they were campaigning in the lower division of the north zone. Suite recruited the best players in the country including the national captain Leroy Spann, Ron La Forest, Noel Sammy LLewelyn, Vaughn Alexander, Earl Carter, John Granville and Trevor Fredericks. And although the team started in the north zone, it took just two years to win promotion into the National League in 1980.

Inspired by good crowd support, Suite launched his league in March 1981, offering some $160,000 in prize money.

He also revealed that eight of the country’s top teams - Challengers, Essex, San Fernando Strikers, Essex, HAS Cocorite United, CCI Falcons, Ebonites, and his team ASL Sports would play in its first season.

The TTPSL then applied to the TTFA for associate membership which was promptly denied.

Warner suggested that the organisation was turning back the clock by centralizing the sport in Port of Spain. He stated that the League’s constitution was unacceptable and argued that under FIFA rules, it was a proprietary league and could not be entertained. He immediately banned all players, officials and others associated with the league from any relatiohsip with the governing body.

Suite called on Warner to say what part of his constitution was in breech but his letter was ignored. Nevertheless the league opened with a Disney parade on June 5, 1981, complete with Mickey Mouse characters.

It came at a time when a new breed of player was emerging and the top players were no longer contented to play without financial rewards.

When the season ended, the ASL team won both the league and the knock out title in matches that were all contested in front of good crowds at the PSA Centre.

The teams which stayed in the TTFA’s National League were Defence Force, Memphis, Tesoro Palo Seco, Police, Tarouca Utd, Maple, Malvern, Point Fortin Civic Centre, TESCA, Peterborough, Benefica, Telcos, Fulham, Jabloteh, Forest Reserve Police and Tesoro.

Defence Force won both the league and FA Trophy. Although ending with the same 47 points as Palo Seco in the league, their goal difference was much superior. It was less difficult for them in the FA Trophy final where they slammed Memphis 5-0.

Despite losing some of the major players, Trinidad and Tobago won the Caribbean Football Union’s Nation’s Cup in Puerto Rico.

The team was: Michael Maurice, Shurland Richards, Reynold George, Wayne Joseph, Joel Rahim, Colin Skeene, Curtis Murrell, C. Riley, Garfield De Silva, Patrick Geoffroy, Terry Williams, Cleveland Mendes, Oscar Waldron, Nevick Denoon, Frank Haynes, Alvin Anderson., Keith Eddy, Veron Skinner, Garnet Craig, Bert Neptune and Michael Didier.

Eddy and Skinner scored in 2-0 wins against St Vincent and the Grenadines and Guadeloupe and Cleveland Mendes got a double, and Skinner, Craig, Haynes and Joseph all scored in a 6-0 rout against Puerto Rico.

The following year, the TTPSL amended its constitution to come in line with the requirements of FIFA and were granted affiliate status by the TTFA.

Now called the Carib Professional league, it had grown from eight to twelve teams.

They were BWIA ASL Sports , Strikers, Malvern, Memphis, Ebonites, Police, Modniks, Falcons, ECM Motown, Challengers, Essex and Cocorite United.

The TTFA competition which was called the Stag National Football league comprised 16 teams as follows: Jabloteh, Forest Reserve Estate Police, Maple, Defence Force, Palo Seco, Point Fortin Civic Centre, Leeds United , Tacarigua Utd, Caroni, Fulham, Peterborough, Concordians, Barataria Ball Players, Texaco, Benefica and Telcos.

Immediately, there was a dramatic swing in the sport as several foreign teams, on the invitation of Suite visited and played against ASL Sports and the national team.

The United States visited for the first time and drew 1-1 with their host before beating a Trinidad
and Tobago team 2-1.

Suriname beat the National team 3-2 but lost 1-0 to ASL Sports. English team Arsenal won against ASL Sports 3-2 but beat a representative team from the league 2-0 while Ireland won their only game against ASL 3-1. Manchester United also won two games 2-1 and 4-1 while Bermuda battled a Trinidad and Tobago team 2-2 in the opening match of the season.

Two Brazilian powerhouses, Flamengo - the team of superstars Zico and Junior and Corinthians also played a game each. Flamengo beat ASL 3-1 and their countrymen went on a goal spree in an 8-2 rout.

ASL won the league but Memphis won both the Premier Cup and the People’s KO trophy. The Defence Force also repeated their success of the previous year by winning the Stag sponsored NFL.

Perhaps, the most bizarre aspect of the season was when the national team aborted plans to go to the CAC Games in Cuba in August.

Having prepared for the tournament, the players were at the airport and all set to board the plane when one of the players, Brian Williams was declared medically unfit by a doctor. The Association reacted angrily and withdrew the team.

Before the year ended, there was good news for football when Suite and the TTFA settled their differences and agreed on one major league for the 1983 season. It was noticeable during the year that there was a lot of negotiations between officials of the PSL and the TTFA.

And on December 8, 1983, an agreement was reached for one body - the Trinidad and Tobago Football league (TTFL) to replace the two rival leagues.

The new league included the top five teams from both PSL and NSL and were joined by the National Under 21 team for the season.

They were : BWIA ASL Sports Club, ECM Sports, Malvern, HAS Cocorite, KFC Memphis (PSL) and Defence Force, Tac arigua United, Forest Reserve Estate Police , Leeds United and Tesoro Palo Seco (NFL).

The TTFA’s constitution was changed to permit Suite to become first vice-president of the association.

The agreement gave ASL Properties Limited a franchise to run the Trinidad and Tobago Football League (TTFL) on a day to day basis while the TTFA continued to run football in the lower divisions.

ASL won both the league and FA Trophy but the year proved to be disastrous as far as club football was concerned. Excessive rain disrupted the fixtures and attendences at matches were poor.

By the year end, Suite announced the League was folding.

The most significant development during the year, however, was the elevation of Warner to the FIFA executive. At the beginning of the year, Warner was appointed to the FIFA executive after Andre Kamperveen, the CFU representative was killed in Suriname during an uprising in that country. Warner 39, was the youngest person to be placed on the FIFA body as the average age was 55. He attended his first meeting of the governing body for football on May 19, 1983 in Switzerland and one month later was elected president of the Caribbean Football Union, to replace Kamperveen.

But any smiles that came to his face as a result of his promotions, were wiped off his face by the end of the season in December when a group calling itself the ‘Interim Committee’ headed by St Elmo Gopaul called for an extra ordinary general meeting of the TAFA to debate a motion of no-confidence in the body.

Letters were sent to the President, the Minister of Sport and following an avalanche of letters which were published in the newspapers, the TTFA agreed to the meeting.

On February 12, 1984, at a seven-hour meeting in Central, Trinidad rejected the motion 70-43 with two abstentions.

In spite of the folding of the joint league and the motion of no confidence in the Association’s Suite’s ASL was among the 12 teams in the National Football league for the 1984 season which opened with a match between an India team and Trinidad and Tobago at the National Stadium. The Indians won the game 3-1 with Nevick Denoon scoring for the home team but the season was a major flop with spectators staying away.

ASL again won the league with 57 points after 22 matches. Their nearest rivals were Defence Force who had 46 points.

The two teams were among qualifiers for the ‘Big Four’ series later in the year, a series that was expected to attract crowd support and therefore income for the Association. But Suite told the TTFA that the club was not be taking part. However, after the Association found a replacement, Suite changed his mind and decided to play. But the TTFA refused to the change its position and ASL was not allowed in the series. Suite promptly announced that ASL would not be taking part in the TTFA competition the following season. That set the stage for more confrontation between ASL and the TTFA.

On January 14, 1985, Suite launched the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF). He had in his corner some of the top names in local football. These included former national player and coach Alvin Corneal, Edgar Vidale, Ken Butcher, Ken Bartolo and Suite’s brother Cecil.

The Association responded by declaring the organisers persona non grata with its president Peter O' Connor stating: “They can do it but they will not be part of international football.’

The TTFF was a direct rival to the Association and attempted to compete with it by playing a zonal competition instead of the national league.

ASL won the north zone but there was none of the interest of the past years. Defence Force, as was expected dominated the TTFA’s National league and then survived a torrid 1-1 draw with Trintoc in the FA Trophy final before winning a penalty shootout after 20 shots on goal.

Earlier, the season opened with Manchester United and Southampton playing to a 1-1 draw at the National Stadium - a game that attracted 18,000 fans. Another English team Bradford City also visited. They won and lost but more importantly, they saw a young man by the name of Russell Latapy and invited him for trials.

Latapy, at 14 years, was voted the country’s footballer of the year in 1983 after dominating the Coca Cola Youth series in which he was voted “MVP.’ His trial with Bradford City would set the stage for a career that would see him earning the sobriquet of ‘The Little Magician,’ a tribute to his excellence at midfield. Eventually, he played with Porto in Portugal before moving to Hibernian in Scotland and then to Rangers. His trial with Bradford City set the stage for hundreds of others to follow and by the time 2000 reached, Trinidad and Tobago had nearly 50 players with professional contracts in Europe.

These included Tobago-born Dwight Yorke who started with Aston Villa before earning a lucrative $12.5 million pound transfer to the top English team Manchester United. Players like Shaka Hislop (West Ham), Stern John (Nott Forest), Anthony Rougier, Marvin Andrews (Livingston) were among those who followed Latapy into professional careers.

But the 1985 confrontation between the two bodies led to difficult times for the sport. The game had already suffered from the PSL conflict, losing public confidence which ultimately had a negative effect on the revenues of the association.

With two organisation competing in a diminishing market, none could do well.
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Tottenham Hotspurs to visit Trinidad
Date Published: 1983-04-05
Source: Jamaica Gleaner

PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad, April 2 (CANA)

Tottenham Hotspurs, one of England's most renowned football clubs, may play two matches in Trinidad in May, according to a report in the TRINIDAD GUARDIAN.

The GUARDIAN said that negotiations are now underway to have the 'Spurs' here for the formal opening of the 1983 Trinidad and Tobago Football League's (TTFL) season, Mucurapo.

Arthur Suite, chairman of the TTFL and one of the country's leading soccer promoters and two directors of ASL Properties Limited, have left for London to finalise arrangements for the visit of the 'Spurs'.

If plans materialise, Tottenham will play both matches against ASL Sports, Tnnidad and Tobago's only fully professional football club.

Tottenham won the English FA Cup in 1981 and 1982. They boast of having Argentine World Cup stars Osvaldo Ardiles and Ricardo Villa in their team, as well as exciting players like Steve Archibald, Glenn Hoddle, Ray Clemence and Garth Crooks.



Sports body disapproves of competitions in Trinidad
Date Published: 1984-12-06
Source: Jamaica Gleaner

PORT OF SPAIN

Several clubs have voiced strong dissatisfaction at the manner in which football in Trinidad-Tobago is being administered and a rival body is most likely to be formed.

Meanwhile, the Aviation Sports Limited Club (ASL) has withdrawn from future Trinidad and Tobago Association competitions.

This assertion came recently from Arthur Suite, president of Aviation Sports Limited Club, the professionally structured champion football team of Trinidad-Tobago. Suite's statement came as he announced to a large gathering of players and officials of football clubs that ASL had decided to withdraw from the Trinidad-Tobago Football Association's competitions.

Suite, whose ASL broke for two years with the Association (1982-1983), before returning to the fold last season, accused the regime of mismanagement, failure to advise ASL of intention to reduce or liquidate debt in the amount of over TTD 100,000 owed to ASL by TTFA and of operating in a 'dictatorial way' towards certain clubs affiliated to the association.

The meeting, which was held at Jean Pierre sports complex by a group of concerned clubs, was also attended by some persons including former national players. Up to midday today, no comment on ASL's withdrawal, nor allegations made by Suite, had come from TTFA officials.



Resignation calls rejected
Author: Burnell Jones
Date Published: 1985-01-09
Source: Jamaica Gleaner

Port of Spain, Jan. 7

Calls by some of the leading clubs in Trinidad-Tobago football on administrators of the ruling body Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) to resign their posts have been dismissed as 'nonsense' by the mean who control the sport in this republic and today, the formation of a "Football Federation" was announced.

The 'Federation' will administer football in north, east, south and central Trinidad and, so the announcement states, will be headed by officials of the nation's leading teams who have all broken ties with the association. They include Arthur Suite, head of ASL sports, the champion squad which sports a number of outstanding national players; Aubrey Peters, manager of ECM, who won this year's FA trophy, Eddie Hart of Tacarigua United, the star-studded East Trinidad team; Edgar Vidale, former national coach and Rolf Bartholo, of Maple, one of the oldest clubs in the country.

Last night, a federation official told Gleaner that "they (the TTFA administrators) failed to do the honest thing by resigning after throwing football into disgrace; so we have formed this body, which will, we are sure, attract the many other clubs who have been dissatisfied with the way the (TTFA) officials are carrying out their duties."

TTFA have issued a "warning" to teams which may be affiliated to the rebel federation: "The federation will not be recognised by the world's ruling football body, FIFA".



Notes From Trinidad
Author: Burnell Jones
Date Published: 1985-02-02
Source: Jamaica Gleaner

[excerpt]

A sixth club has cut ties with the ruling football body here to join the "rebel federation". This news made added "talking juice" to the people of Arima last night, as the folks of the eastern borough, home town of Larry Gomes, were "celebrating" the success of their cricketing idol in winning the Sportsman of the Year Award for 1985.

The team, Memphis, which is being sponsored by a fried chicken food establishment, is among the top crowd-pulling sides in the country and is being paraded as "the pride of Arima" in reports by football writers here.

In Memphis lads finalised plans for the defection following a meeting held by ASL leader, Arthur Suite, whose ASL sports team began the "Exodus" following long-standing rifts with the parent body.

The announcement of Memphis' defection has come some days after the TTFA declared that the Federation is not being recognised by football administrators here, in the region, and at FIFA level. Other clubs which have quit the Association, apart from ASL, are ECM, Cocorite, Maple and Tacarigua United.

Essex, another TTFA club team, is expected to join the "rebel" ranks when they hold a meeting at their St. James clubhouse in near-west Port of Spain, tomorrow night.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2009, 04:21:08 PM »
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By Valentino Singh



Suriname beat the National team 3-2 but lost 1-0 to ASL Sports. English team Arsenal won against ASL Sports 3-2 but beat a representative team from the league 2-0 while Ireland won their only game against ASL 3-1. Manchester United also won two games 2-1 and 4-1 while Bermuda battled a Trinidad and Tobago team 2-2 in the opening match of the season.

Two Brazilian powerhouses, Flamengo - the team of superstars Zico and Junior and Corinthians also played a game each. Flamengo beat ASL 3-1 and their countrymen went on a goal spree in an 8-2 rout.



By the year end, Suite announced the League was folding.




Earlier, the season opened with Manchester United and Southampton playing to a 1-1 draw at the National Stadium - a game that attracted 18,000 fans. Another English team Bradford City also visited. They won and lost but more importantly, they saw a young man by the name of Russell Latapy and invited him for trials.




Manchester didn't win two games vs. ASL. The first one was rained out at the QPO, probably with MU leading 2-1, the REf. called off the game and it was replayed possibly at the Nat. Stadium with MU winning 4-1.

The Indians were incredibly lucky in that game. And lost two more games to TT on tour.

I think the Corinthians game was 7-2 but could be wrong. However, the two goals by ASL were superb. Garnet Craig with a bullet from about 50 metres out and Lobo with one of the greatest headers I have ever seen.

The Man U - Southampton game was a 1-0 affair. The goal was scored by the only black player on the field for Saints. A set o' white locals showed up at the game, screaming down the place.

I remember being at that game and having to sit on the steps becz the covered area at the Stad. was sold out.
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2009, 04:30:59 PM »
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The Story of T&T Football
By Valentino Singh



Suriname beat the National team 3-2 but lost 1-0 to ASL Sports. English team Arsenal won against ASL Sports 3-2 but beat a representative team from the league 2-0 while Ireland won their only game against ASL 3-1. Manchester United also won two games 2-1 and 4-1 while Bermuda battled a Trinidad and Tobago team 2-2 in the opening match of the season.

Two Brazilian powerhouses, Flamengo - the team of superstars Zico and Junior and Corinthians also played a game each. Flamengo beat ASL 3-1 and their countrymen went on a goal spree in an 8-2 rout.



By the year end, Suite announced the League was folding.




Earlier, the season opened with Manchester United and Southampton playing to a 1-1 draw at the National Stadium - a game that attracted 18,000 fans. Another English team Bradford City also visited. They won and lost but more importantly, they saw a young man by the name of Russell Latapy and invited him for trials.




Manchester didn't win two games vs. ASL. The first one was rained out at the QPO, probably with MU leading 2-1, the REf. called off the game and it was replayed possibly at the Nat. Stadium with MU winning 4-1.

The Indians were incredibly lucky in that game. And lost two more games to TT on tour.

I think the Corinthians game was 7-2 but could be wrong. However, the two goals by ASL were superb. Garnet Craig with a bullet from about 50 metres out and Lobo with one of the greatest headers I have ever seen.

The Man U - Southampton game was a 1-0 affair. The goal was scored by the only black player on the field for Saints. A set o' white locals showed up at the game, screaming down the place.

I remember being at that game and having to sit on the steps becz the covered area at the Stad. was sold out.
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U have a serious memory horse.  Was it a diving header right?  But somehow thought it was vs Flamengo or maybe Flamengo was a Scissors? 

I not too sure any of Suite's leagues was making profits at anytime.  i was a lil young so maybe i am wrong.  Good football in them times. 

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2009, 04:50:34 PM »
allyuh know Arthur Suite marry Connie Chung ???
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2009, 04:54:30 PM »
allyuh know Arthur Suite marry Connie Chung ???
Suite is ah minister also, as she married to Maury ;D

ah kno there is more to this right BM
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2009, 04:57:32 PM »
Excerpted from

The Story of T&T Football
By Valentino Singh



Suriname beat the National team 3-2 but lost 1-0 to ASL Sports. English team Arsenal won against ASL Sports 3-2 but beat a representative team from the league 2-0 while Ireland won their only game against ASL 3-1. Manchester United also won two games 2-1 and 4-1 while Bermuda battled a Trinidad and Tobago team 2-2 in the opening match of the season.

Two Brazilian powerhouses, Flamengo - the team of superstars Zico and Junior and Corinthians also played a game each. Flamengo beat ASL 3-1 and their countrymen went on a goal spree in an 8-2 rout.



By the year end, Suite announced the League was folding.




Earlier, the season opened with Manchester United and Southampton playing to a 1-1 draw at the National Stadium - a game that attracted 18,000 fans. Another English team Bradford City also visited. They won and lost but more importantly, they saw a young man by the name of Russell Latapy and invited him for trials.




Manchester didn't win two games vs. ASL. The first one was rained out at the QPO, probably with MU leading 2-1, the REf. called off the game and it was replayed possibly at the Nat. Stadium with MU winning 4-1.

The Indians were incredibly lucky in that game. And lost two more games to TT on tour.

I think the Corinthians game was 7-2 but could be wrong. However, the two goals by ASL were superb. Garnet Craig with a bullet from about 50 metres out and Lobo with one of the greatest headers I have ever seen.

The Man U - Southampton game was a 1-0 affair. The goal was scored by the only black player on the field for Saints. A set o' white locals showed up at the game, screaming down the place.

I remember being at that game and having to sit on the steps becz the covered area at the Stad. was sold out.
:-)

U have a serious memory horse.  Was it a diving header right?  But somehow thought it was vs Flamengo or maybe Flamengo was a Scissors? 

I not too sure any of Suite's leagues was making profits at anytime.  i was a lil young so maybe i am wrong.  Good football in them times. 

Yes,

Lobo also scored vs. Flam. can't remember if it was a scissors.

That was a Rasta with good skills :-) Never saw a sub excite people so. Probably the only regular Club Sub, who used to get pick for the national team :-))
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2009, 06:11:07 PM »
you'll  bringing back some sweet memories of some good football.I was one of the several players who got ban.Playing for Essex with Banfield,Elie,Sammy Llowellyn and Najjar.Tansley Thompson was there too but all dem men were in the twilight of their careers and I was a young man fresh out of QRC.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2009, 02:53:28 AM »
Royal,

what year did you play for QRC?

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2009, 05:33:02 AM »
Royal,

what year did you play for QRC?

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 09:11:39 PM »
Here's a line-up sheet from a game vs Crystal Palace in 1984



Andy Haynes, Michael Chance, Vanghan Alexander, Bertram Haynes, Marlon Charles, Hyrom Best, Garth Pollonais, Peter Lewis, Stuart Charles, Leroy Spann, Marlon Waterman, Clayton Morris, Curtis Celestine, Renewick Jones, Christopher Pugh, Earl Lovell

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 09:35:45 PM »
That ASL squad had at least 11 men who play for the national team.

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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2010, 09:38:28 PM »
Hugely educational thread  :salute: Thanks.
VB's contribution was extremely moving too.
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Re: What made Arthur Suite's ASL so Successful?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2010, 09:48:14 PM »
Here's a line-up sheet from a game vs Crystal Palace in 1984



Andy Haynes, Michael Chance, Vanghan Alexander, Bertram Haynes, Marlon Charles, Hyrom Best, Garth Pollonais, Peter Lewis, Stuart Charles, Leroy Spann, Marlon Waterman, Clayton Morris, Curtis Celestine, Renewick Jones, Christopher Pugh, Earl Lovell


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