Alright for all the late comers and those who still not understanding the points thing.
This is the Ultimate TT/Guat 4th place breakdown..........all permutations calculated.
Reproduced with kind permission by Zeekltk, from Big Soccer
Here are the scenerios for October:
Guatemala wins both (14) - T&T are out (max 13)
Guatemala wins one, draws one (12) - T&T has to win out (13)
Guatemala wins one, loses one (11) - T&T has to win out (13)
Guatemala draws both (10) - T&T has to win one and draw one (min 11)
Guatemala draws one, loses one (9) - T&T has to win just one game (min 10)
Guatemala loses both ( 8 ) - T&T has to draw twice or win once (min 9/10)
Or
Trinidad & Tobago wins both (13) - Guatemala has to win out (14)
Trinidad & Tobago wins one, draws one (11) - Guatemala needs to win one (min 11)
Trinidad & Tobago wins one, loses one (10) - Guatemala needs to draw both or win one (min 10/11)
Trinidad & Tobago draws both (9) - Guatemala needs only a draw (min 9)
Trinidad & Tobago draws one, loses one ( 8 ) - Guatemala advanced no matter what
Trinidad & Tobago loses both (7) - Guatemala advances no matter what
We going and get 6 points......Guatemala doe have a Chance!
Source
Big Soccer, by Zeekltk