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Sports => Football => Topic started by: YoursTruly on October 08, 2009, 05:25:16 PM
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Mr Muhammad wished to make it clear that just like the other overseas-based players who were invited, were sent their notifications and travel schedule and received such, Mr Samuel was also a recipient but unfortunately turned up for his flight on the wrong day, contrary to the date printed on his scheduled.
Kind Regards
Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
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This doesn't explain when Jlloyd got the specific details of his flight.
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This doesn't explain when Jlloyd got the specific details of his flight.
EXACTLY!!
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Eh?? ah need to read this again, cuz mih first impression is that Jlloyd cyar read and understand the Queen's English.... :-\ :-\
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LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS. Dat is d best they could come up wit after d story break.
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Mr Muhammad wished to make it clear that just like the other overseas-based players who were invited, were sent their notifications and travel schedule and received such, Mr Samuel was also a recipient but unfortunately turned up for his flight on the wrong day, contrary to the date printed on his scheduled.
Kind Regards
Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
Didn't Jlloyd say that he went in the evening, but the flight was in the Morning? ???
TTFF manager takes Jlloyd for a joy ride.
By: Inshan "Flex" Mohammed.
Samuel meanwhile, who remains 100% committed to Trinidad and Tobago was originally called up by head coach Russell Latapy for both games and only got an email on Sunday afternoon with his flight details for Sunday morning from TTFF manager David Muhammad. Allow me to repeat this, Samuel's flight details were received Sunday afternoon for a Sunday (the same day) morning flight departure.
Big Up!
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Didn't Jlloyd say that he went in the evening, but the flight was in the Morning? ???
Big Up!
The flight was Sunday morning, he got a text Sunday evening - hours late - with the details according to his side of the story.
This says the flight was Sunday evening.
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Didn't Jlloyd say that he went in the evening, but the flight was in the Morning? ???
Big Up!
My understanding was that he got a text sunday evening advising him that the flight was sunday morning.
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Mr Muhammad wished to make it clear that just like the other overseas-based players who were invited, were sent their notifications and travel schedule and received such, Mr Samuel was also a recipient but unfortunately turned up for his flight on the wrong day, contrary to the date printed on his scheduled.
Kind Regards
Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
Didn't Jlloyd say that he went in the evening, but the flight was in the Morning? ???
TTFF manager takes Jlloyd for a joy ride.
By: Inshan "Flex" Mohammed.
Samuel meanwhile, who remains 100% committed to Trinidad and Tobago was originally called up by head coach Russell Latapy for both games and only got an email on Sunday afternoon with his flight details for Sunday morning from TTFF manager David Muhammad. Allow me to repeat this, Samuel's flight details were received Sunday afternoon for a Sunday (the same day) morning flight departure.
Big Up!
Muhammed d prophet turnin in he grave
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But the letter above from Senor Muhummad says that the details he send to Jlloyd around September 26th says the flight was Sunday evening.
How then could he, Muhammad, have sent an email on Sunday evening saying the flight on Sunday morning, when the initial email HE Muhammad sent says Sunday evening. So even he eh know the time Jlloyd was supposed to leave then??
But what the hell is this....whole week UDECOTT trying to take mih for a fool, now this clown....what really going on here??... :-\ >:(
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all ah we gehin tie up
"Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th"
TTFF sent the Time that the flight would arrive in TnT not the time that the flight would leave London :devil: :devil:
HARD LUCK there JLS :-[
ah trini woulda figured that out easy easy :D :D
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But the letter above from Senor Muhummad says that the details he send to Jlloyd around September 26th says the flight was Sunday evening.
How then could he, Muhammad, have sent an email on Sunday evening saying the flight on Sunday morning, when the initial email HE Muhammad sent says Sunday evening. So even he eh know the time Jlloyd was supposed to leave then??
But what the hell is this....whole week UDECOTT trying to take mih for a fool, now this clown....what really going on here??... :-\ >:(
UDECOTT is pale 2 dis clown
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But the letter above from Senor Muhummad says that the details he send to Jlloyd around September 26th says the flight was Sunday evening.
How then could he, Muhammad, have sent an email on Sunday evening saying the flight on Sunday morning, when the initial email HE Muhammad sent says Sunday evening. So even he eh know the time Jlloyd was supposed to leave then??
But what the hell is this....whole week UDECOTT trying to take mih for a fool, now this clown....what really going on here??... :-\ >:(
Read it again sugar.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th
I read that as they supposed to arrive in T&T on Sunday evening.
Seeing that they comin from de UK.....it stands to reason that the flight would leave the UK in the morning.
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BURY DEM
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all ah we gehin tie up
"Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th"
TTFF sent the Time that the flight would arrive in TnT not the time that the flight would leave London :devil: :devil:
HARD LUCK there JLS :-[
ah trini woulda figured that out easy easy :D :D
Thxs I now overstand.
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Alright Palos, but explain this part to me....
I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
Due a date change??...when did the date change occur??
Andre Samuel also just said that David Muhummad NEVER spoke to Jlloyd between Friday and Tuesday....so explain this....
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Palos boy....bottom line is somebody screw up...for all yuh know perhaps Simpaul's (them again), screwed up and David is taking the licks....
Anywho, I should be packing mih bags to go Tobago tomorrow but all yuh have mih here in bachanal... ;D
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all ah we gehin tie up
"Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th"
TTFF sent the Time that the flight would arrive in TnT not the time that the flight would leave London :devil: :devil:
HARD LUCK there JLS :-[
ah trini woulda figured that out easy easy :D :D
But West, how Jlloyd was supposed to know the time the flight leaving??....that is what would be important to him, the departure time.....not the time it arriving in Trinidad....steups....
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Alright Palos, but explain this part to me....
I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
Due a date change??...when did the date change occur??
Andre Samuel also just said that David Muhummad NEVER spoke to Jlloyd between Friday and Tuesday....so explain this....
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Pack yuh bags 4get dis chaos.
Palos boy....bottom line is somebody screw up...for all yuh know perhaps Simpaul's (them again), screwed up and David is taking the licks....
Anywho, I should be packing mih bags to go Tobago tomorrow but all yuh have mih here in bachanal... ;D
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sorry
was being facetious
No where in that email/letter/text/BB/Pin/facebook/twitter/message is the departure time given........TTFF ent easy atall atall.....................lawd
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So, he got the letter. He knows he has a flight some time on October 5. Now what?
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
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He never got his details till Sunday Evening. I guess he did not think that I would be listening to this thousands of miles away
Be real and admit that you messed up and lets move on.
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So, he got the letter. He knows he has a flight some time on October 5. Now what?
No, according to the letter above the flight was on Sunday October 4th....but he didn't get the letter, now what?....Let's for argument's sake go along with what Muhummad is suggesting in that he sent out invitations to all the players but for some strange reason, Jlloyd was the only player who did not get his flight details.
Is there not some system of follow up?
For example, when the email is sent, an acknowledgement is required. If acknowledgement is not received, another email is sent and/or a phone call is placed.....
Yuh right Coop's something not adding up....
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He never got his details till Sunday Evening. I guess he did not think that I would be listening to this thousands of miles away
Be real and admit that you messed up and lets move on.
is the TTFF, being "Spetial Advithed" by Austin "Jack" Warner
ya should be used to this bacchanal by now :devil:
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
But he cousin livin in TNT. So Shaun take a BIG STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSS.
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He never got his details till Sunday Evening. I guess he did not think that I would be listening to this thousands of miles away
Be real and admit that you messed up and lets move on.
They official writer feels we eh know nothing because we live thousand of miles away.
This forum is a panel for all and its a powerful tool despite what Shaun thinks of us here.
I say, he is a red eye fella. Jealously is a bad thing.
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So, he got the letter. He knows he has a flight some time on October 5. Now what?
No, according to the letter above the flight was on Sunday October 4th....but he didn't get the letter, now what?....Let's for argument's sake go along with what Muhummad is suggesting in that he sent out invitations to all the players but for some strange reason, Jlloyd was the only player who did not get his flight details.
Is there not some system of follow up?
For example, when the email is sent, an acknowledgement is required. If acknowledgement is not received, another email is sent and/or a phone call is placed.....
Yuh right Coop's something not adding up....
BrownSugar for Soca Warriors Team Manager
TTFF ent easy atall atall
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He never got his details till Sunday Evening. I guess he did not think that I would be listening to this thousands of miles away
Be real and admit that you messed up and lets move on.
Mrs samuels , did Jlloyd find out about all the mele, or he still don't know yet about all the fuss going on around his name ?
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Sam, that was the first thing that struck me when I saw this info from Yours truly.....as if the fans being in the US is some kinda barrier to finding out the truth....steups!!!...
Well forget us for a moment, Andre Baptiste in the US??....he is the first one I hear talk about this Jlloyd matter.....so Andre far removed too then....dobuble steuppsss....
These people does real take we for fools yes.....
THE ENTIRE TTFF SET UP IS A FRIGGIN WASTE!!!!......bunch ah incompetent fools!!!.....
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
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typical coward response
matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
After I read that I knew I was in for some bullshit reading
THOSE FANS LIVING IN USA are 100 times more organized than your f**king federation you pieces of shit
You think the TTFF have stats and data like SW.net home page?
you think they even know the US College based players that playing ball away?
you think the TTFF have passion and the long term vision to make our football successful?
you think the TTFF have more educated personell than the leading forumites(the eman's the Flex's the Tallman's) on this forum ?
We are Trinidad and Tobago Football ... not some f**king federation with a bunch of shithongs
I joining pops now yes..Revolution time
It coming soon c**ts..enjoy the remaining months...
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
uuuuummmmm Coop's.....oh never mind..... :-\
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
oh boy
here we go
totally uncalled for
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typical coward response
matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
After I read that I knew I was in for some bullshit reading
THOSE FANS LIVING IN USA are 100 times more organized than your f**king federation you pieces of shit
You think the TTFF have stats and data like SW.net home page?
you think they even know the US College based players that playing ball away?
We are Trinidad and Tobago Football ... not some f**king federation with a bunch of shithongs
I joining pops now yes..Revolution time
It coming soon c**ts..enjoy the remaining months...
AND what says he to when he SPELLS players name WRONG
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
steups! coops yuh outta timin dey.
TTFF lucky me eh jloyd, or any other T&T player mammy, because i was comin wid some serious fire an brimstone fuh dey ass
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
Coops u are bein stupid if u send email 2 10 peeps esp on an impt matter u will check 2 c if he get d message. As 4 he mudder jlOYD WANTED D STORY CLOSE i GUESS U WOULD HAVE RATHER WE NEVA KNEW WHAT HAPPENED.
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
This Coop is a damn jackass. His head is stuck up the TTFF (JaCK) ass. Look how he waste no time coming to defend the incompetent regime.
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So even after all this when Samuel showed up Monday at the airport how come no ticket still ? after all mistakes were cleared up, he was told he was flying on Monday but no ticket was there.
And why did LP apologise if the story wasn't true ?
Come on Shaun, that was a poor response. If David mess up, just say so and move on.
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So even after all this when Samuel showed up Monday at the airport how come no ticket still ? after all mistakes were cleared up, he was told he was flying on Monday but no ticket was there.
And why did LP apologise if the story wasn't true ?
Come on Shaun, that was a poor response. If David mess up, just say so and move on.
L who d views express are does of L who and not of d TTFF. Admit dey wrong dey go quicker say d world flat than admit a wrong.
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What I can't understand is why the Manager does not call these players, how much will this cost ?
These guys are pros and should not be contacted by email for arrangements for playing for their country.
Texting, email, is impersonal and to me almost disrepectfull.
As manager he should call the men and speak to them personally show them that they are wanted.
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Coop you are as ignorant as some of the people in Administration. To call my child a baby? First of all I told Jlloyd about the letter that I was sending. I told Jlloyd about the interview that was being done today.
He is a cool laid back guy that do not like bacchanal as you would call it. I am the one that he called to vent on what happened.
I was the one that took it upon myself to take it further. So to call my child a baby" You are so right" He is my baby, and I will stick up and protect him and his sister until I die. Its call LOVE. And guess what Coop. Our family is bonded and thrive by that four letter word 'LOVE".So please do not try to hate nor disrespect my child,because there is plenty more pepper in my pot.
I may have left Trinidad when I was a teenager, but believe me the veins still run like a Trini.
RESPECT
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Coop you are as ignorant as some of the people in Administration. To call my child a baby? First of all I told Jlloyd about the letter that I was sending. I told Jlloyd about the interview that was being done today.
He is a cool laid back guy that do not like bacchanal as you would call it. I am the one that he called to vent on what happened.
I was the one that took it upon myself to take it further. So to call my child a baby" You are so right" He is my baby, and I will stick up and protect him and his sister until I die. Its call LOVE. And guess what Coop. Our family is bonded and thrive by that four letter word 'LOVE".So please do not try to hate nor disrespect my child,because there is plenty more pepper in my pot.
I may have left Trinidad when I was a teenager, but believe me the veins still run like a Trini.
RESPECT
Big up mammy big up
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
So dis "YoursTruly" is Fuentes?
I peep dat "run by fans living in the US" talk... like dat have one f**k to do with anything.
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
So dis "YoursTruly" is Fuentes?
I peep dat "run by fans living in the US" talk... like dat have one f**k to do with anything.
nah YT is our insider from the Media.. not the TTFF Media ie Fuentes
YT gets the info first and posts it
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
So dis "YoursTruly" is Fuentes?
I peep dat "run by fans living in the US" talk... like dat have one f**k to do with anything.
nah YT is our insider from the Media.. not the TTFF Media ie Fuentes
YT gets the info first and posts it
When I C dis release in d main stream media then I go blieve dat YT is mainstream and not TTFF media. Anyways bois and gyuls take a :applause: because is all yuh TTFF had 2 respond 2 not AB and I95. We are a sleepin giant dat need 2 wake up
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Look nothing wrong with emailing...the proper protocol would have been to have an open account with a travel agency..tell them that you need a ticket for so and so and have them respond to you with an e-ticket confirmation number....de manager would then have submitted the ticket confirmation number preferably a week in advance since things do come up in the email to Samuel....
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Look nothing wrong with emailing...the proper protocol would have been to have an open account with a travel agency..tell them that you need a ticket for so and so and have them respond to you with an e-ticket confirmation number....de manager would then have submitted the ticket confirmation number preferably a week in advance since things do come up in the email to Samuel....
The manager's responsibility is to 'manage'... he's in charge of communication and logistics. ASSUMPTION should never be a part of his thought process. You don't email, text, BB or leave voicemail and assume that the message is received without following up. Anyone who has had so much as a cup of coffee in the business world... heck in any 'professional' environment learns this. College interns know this... and the facking manager of the TTFF's national team (cyah call it we own) don't know this?
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What I can't understand is why the Manager does not call these players, how much will this cost ?
These guys are pros and should not be contacted by email for arrangements for playing for their country.
Texting, email, is impersonal and to me almost disrepectfull.
As manager he should call the men and speak to them personally show them that they are wanted.
F^%ING ENT!!!!!!
in dis day and age???
we rel motherC&%t jokey yes, and men trying to defend dese friggin imps!?!?!
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Look nothing wrong with emailing...the proper protocol would have been to have an open account with a travel agency..tell them that you need a ticket for so and so and have them respond to you with an e-ticket confirmation number....de manager would then have submitted the ticket confirmation number preferably a week in advance since things do come up in the email to Samuel....
wait nuh
is BrownSugar, Fishs and now you running for Manager of the Soccer Warriors or wha ;D
but as the saying goes
All of allya suggestions are too easy, so TTFF ent doin that :devil:
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Look nothing wrong with emailing...the proper protocol would have been to have an open account with a travel agency..tell them that you need a ticket for so and so and have them respond to you with an e-ticket confirmation number....de manager would then have submitted the ticket confirmation number preferably a week in advance since things do come up in the email to Samuel....
The manager's responsibility is to 'manage'... he's in charge of communication and logistics. ASSUMPTION should never be a part of his thought process. You don't email, text, BB or leave voicemail and assume that the message is received without following up. Anyone who has had so much as a cup of coffee in the business world... heck in any 'professional' environment learns this. College interns know this... and the facking manager of the TTFF's national team (cyah call it we own) don't know this?
Has this man not been reassigned to another post yet? He cannot be allowed to continue as TTFF's national team manager as his incompetence is negatively affecting the potential performance of the team on the field! :waiting:
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Has this man not been reassigned to another post yet? He cannot be allowed to continue as TTFF's national team manager as his incompetence is negatively affecting the potential performance of the team on the field! :waiting:
Look, I not here to call fuh anybody job... not criticising you for yuh opinion... just stating my position. My thing is everybody makes mistakes... man up and accept responsibility instead of trying to justify de fackery wid more fackery. Dis doh have to be the end of his career as Manager, he just needs to acknowledge what happen and pledge to himself to do better from here out.
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Has this man not been reassigned to another post yet? He cannot be allowed to continue as TTFF's national team manager as his incompetence is negatively affecting the potential performance of the team on the field! :waiting:
Look, I not here to call fuh anybody job... not criticising you for yuh opinion... just stating my position. My thing is everybody makes mistakes... man up and accept responsibility instead of trying to justify de fackery wid more fackery. Dis doh have to be the end of his career as Manager, he just needs to acknowledge what happen and pledge to himself to do better from here out.
I didn't say sack him, I said reassign him to another post!
The man is ballsing up on his post much too regular and it is negatively affecting the team that we can put out on the field to REP the red, white & black!
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I didn't say sack him, I said reassign him to another post!
The man is ballsing up on his post much too regular and it is negatively affecting the team that we can put out on the field to REP the red, white & black!
I agree he messing up... but more than affecting the team, it affecting we reputation, this is the kinda jokey business that does make dem English managers roll dey eyes whenever is one ah dem players involved with the TTFF.
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Oh lawwd...moms ruff up Coops yes lol.... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dis board is the best!!
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Look nothing wrong with emailing...the proper protocol would have been to have an open account with a travel agency..tell them that you need a ticket for so and so and have them respond to you with an e-ticket confirmation number....de manager would then have submitted the ticket confirmation number preferably a week in advance since things do come up in the email to Samuel....
The manager's responsibility is to 'manage'... he's in charge of communication and logistics. ASSUMPTION should never be a part of his thought process. You don't email, text, BB or leave voicemail and assume that the message is received without following up. Anyone who has had so much as a cup of coffee in the business world... heck in any 'professional' environment learns this. College interns know this... and the facking manager of the TTFF's national team (cyah call it we own) don't know this?
Has this man not been reassigned to another post yet? He cannot be allowed to continue as TTFF's national team manager as his incompetence is negatively affecting the potential performance of the team on the field! :waiting:
Yeah he s now d TTFF President
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well look thing...Coop's jump een and get ah cyber buff ;D
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Just for clarification sake, I am an active member of the TT media. I have no job with the TTFF but I simply post info on the website when I get them, so the news will reach a wider audience earlier than it does on most occasions. Stay blessed everyone!!
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Just for clarification sake, I am an active member of the TT media. I have no job with the TTFF but I simply post info on the website when I get them, so the news will reach a wider audience earlier than it does on most occasions. Stay blessed everyone!!
So I guess I will read this in the Express/Guardian or Newsday and if I contact meh peeps in d electronic media dey would have gotten it?
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BURY DEM
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If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
i thought it was free to hear it straight from the source?
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Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
OK, I have read this over and over and trying to make sense of it and ah still confuse.
First of all no where in that letter state what the flight itinerary was, it just say they are expected to fly in the country at some time in the evening. Plus he then say the ticket was for Oct 5th and simpauls could not find it cus it was changed, never said from when to when that change was made. so how Jlloyd suppose to know the exact time his flight would be?
That email was just the ivitation to rep the country, that was no flight details letting Jlloyd know when the flight was, he was expecting that to come at a later date, did not get it, so he decide he will just pack and get ready and go to the airport (thinking it was sun evening) guess he misunderstood the initial email ( i may have to at 1st)...but when he got there, no ticket was available yet again...so what you expect the poor boy to do...not say forget it and go back to the team that paying his bills? Steupsss
Big Up!
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:rotfl: ah take a day off and drama. This has to be the greatest. ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/cYkqMT6HKD0
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Just for clarification sake, I am an active member of the TT media. I have no job with the TTFF but I simply post info on the website when I get them, so the news will reach a wider audience earlier than it does on most occasions. Stay blessed everyone!!
Arrite cool... Small Mag vouch fuh yuh too.
I now coming and say that after all dat praise I heap on yuh in de SSFL thread tuh come and find out you is Jack lapdog Fido Fuentes :-\
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Mr Muhammad wished to make it clear that just like the other overseas-based players who were invited, were sent their notifications and travel schedule and received such, Mr Samuel was also a recipient but unfortunately turned up for his flight on the wrong day, contrary to the date printed on his scheduled.
Kind Regards
Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
I am going to give Mr. Muhamed some leeway here. If he did email JLS and he unlike others didn't receive it. It may not be entirely his fault. I doubt the man mad enough to email five and blank JL.
Some points to consider:
(i) Shouldn't the playersa confirm receipt of the letter and their intent to come.
If JL didn't respond why didn't someone check? They just assumed he was coming based on no reply from an email?? :-0
(ii) If they thought he was coming on Oct. 4 and he thought Oct. 5. HOW did that happen???
(iii)Even if the TTFF wishes to save money on phone calls, simple confirmations or lack of can keep them apprised of what's happening.
If this is the kind of communication that occurs with our best defender, how the hell do they communicate with players in lesser leagues??
VB
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:rotfl: ah take a day off and drama. This has to be the greatest. ;D
A day off u cyah even blink these dayzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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What I cyar understand with these managers,although yuh could email,text, etc,it is your RESPONSIBILITY to make sure the players not only get the message but clearly understands it.Is calling someone on the phone so outdated?
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What I cyar understand with these managers,although yuh could email,text, etc,it is your RESPONSIBILITY to make sure the players not only get the message but clearly understands it.Is calling someone on the phone so outdated?
All yuh 4get that these fellas call d media 2 announce d team and then email d list. D technology avialable but is pre-historic peeps usin it.
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Dey could skype the men and them but that may be too difficult for them...
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Dey could skype the men and them but that may be too difficult for them...
2 technical let dem invest in some magic jack. After all dey should b familiar wit a jack
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I think we have to add- Trinidad is one of the most comical places on the planet. Brown Sugar please note that I did not say Tobago. Chalkie was right- To live in Trinidad one has to have a sense of Humour..The truth shall set us free and what you do in the dark will come to light.
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remember we did ask who this David muhammad fella was ? ...allyuh see is Simpaul travel service that does do the tickets and ting ? ... Give unto Jack the things that are jack's ...hotel to keep teams, travel service to move teams, money from FIFA for the team, restaurant to feed teams ...sports company to promote events ...agency to sell package with World cup tickets tickets Ah wonder which agency get de contract for de under 20 team ???....it have anything left for anybody ??
..and allyuh want to know why jack eh resigning ??
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If this is the kind of communication that occurs with our best defender, how the hell do they communicate with players in lesser leagues??
VB
maybe using this...see below
Dey could skype the men and them but that may be too difficult for them...
2 technical let dem invest in some magic jack. After all dey should b familiar wit a jack
Steeuuups
some ah dem still tryin to figure this out
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/lizsun/Blog/communication.jpg)
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well look thing...Coop's jump een and get ah cyber buff ;D
Coop's is a continues to make JackAss type statement's on here .....good to see the spanking he just get...now he should go in the corner and shut his Ass for at least ah couple months.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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i will get some flack for this post but i want to highlight a few things..
Firstly, (if its in fact true) I don't see anything wrong in emailing flight itineraries. That is standard travel agency procedure. For example, Orbitz doesn't call you to find out if you got your flight itinerary in email, the most you might get is a follow up reminder email a couple days before. If the TTFF sends you a preliminary email informing you of your selection and your scheduled travel dates, then you don't see an itinerary up to two days before then the onus is on you to then get in contact and ask a question.. Any of a number of things could happen; travel agency cock up, email to junk etc..
with that said, let me be clear that I'm not faulting Jlloyd, because from what im getting, he did make concerted efforts to contact the TTFF to find out beforehand but to no avail.
Secondly....
Moms.. ah know yuh love yuh son and ah know yuh looking out for his best interest. My moms would probably do the same. But even though I glad for the zeppo, I personally disagree with you bringing the dirty laundry out in the open; or if you were going to do it then i think you shouldve done it anonymously.
There will be fallout... For one, his future relationship with the TTFF will be tense.. Now I know this may not be high up on the list of priorities, but i'm more concerned with this being taken up by the UK press and highlighted in a negative light, and the subsequent impact it could have. It wouldn't surprise me if the back page of the News of the World come out with a splash "Samuel's mom in row with federation" or some shit like that then the snowball effect comes in.. forums.. blogs.. fan chants at games.. stick from his teammates etc.. Is seemingly minor things like that could throw off ah man game.
You may have been well intentioned, but your son is a big man. My position is you shoulda let him handle it in his own manner.
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Bakes nothing is wrong with an email if it is part of an established procedure but the problem here is the procedure. Tickets shouldn't be sent a day before or a day of a game since games are planned months in advance and each email should be followed up with a simple phone call...yuh get yuh ticket???..yes ????no??? but again it should not be a couple days before a game....
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Dinho, thanks for your input. I Appreciate it wholeheartedly.
Firstly: I do not think its anyone's business if I decided to vent my grievances on the negative things that I see going on.
Secondly: I do not have to hide behind close doors if I have to voice my opinion
Thirdly: Who are you to tell me to keep out of my child's business and let him fight his battles himself? Battles? I never new that Jlloyd was fighting a battle. Last time I checked, I was the one that was appalled by the treatment.
Fourthly: I know that he is a big man, so no need to remind me. Does that mean that whatever age your kids are and you see that someone is about to hang them to cover their backs, you are going to wait till it happen? I THINK NOT!!
Last and not least: Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Do do I regret all this. No.. And all this crap that it might meet English newspaper, then GREAT
And the comment about his friends will laugh at him....Please do me a favor and get with the programme. This is not kinder garden..
People will say what they want and when they want it. Its the way of bloody life!!
YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY
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TTFF attempting to spin dis ting an cah even do dat right. I cyah totally blame Mohammed cause fuh all we kno he could be in over he head and lack the necessary managerial accumen to know what to do. But with tthat said Muhhamed is ah shit manager. Even if information is emailed (which in today's age has become an acceptable medium of communication proffesionaly), there is always a deadline for a response. If no response to original email, most will follow up with a phone call and possibly resend the email message with the pertinent information. Don't know whether he did this or not but I would like to believe he would email both the players and their agents as a fail safe to avoid exactly what occured. By October 1, there should have been a response recieved from all invitees whether personal or via their agents. If on October 1 Muhhamed tried to reach him via telephone and failed then cycled through from more email to text to BB message, I could have easily accepted that. But there is no way that the player should be communicating with him the day of unless is a wake up call. Matter of fact, if I were the manager I would have been making wake up calls just to make sure every man jack up and organized to fly, that way if ah man miss de flight I could honestly say I did the best I could. TTFF is a reflection of the laxed approach TnT society has on a whole. Nothing ever seems important enough for some of us to put in additional effort. Somebody before posted if he was bred here he woulda know de scenes and I fully believe that to be true.
Moms doh engage in dem ole talk wit people on here. In the end it go make you look overly protective and give one or two assholes ammunition to make similar statements to dat contishness Coops said. I know yuh upset bout de scenes but I believe most of us already recognize TTFF is an incopetent and corrupt piece ah shit organization. I think many also recognize that JLloyd must be committed to representing the Warriors to have come when he did and as well to be upset about the situation that has unfolded. If he didn't care he wouldn't have vented to you or anyone else so I for one appreciate his dedication and contribution thus far and hope to see him in the futere.
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Say what you like, but don't get personal and tell me what I must and must not do when it comes to my child.
Case CLOSED!
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i will get some flack for this post but i want to highlight a few things..
Firstly, (if its in fact true) I don't see anything wrong in emailing flight itineraries. That is standard travel agency procedure. For example, Orbitz doesn't call you to find out if you got your flight itinerary in email, the most you might get is a follow up reminder email a couple days before. If the TTFF sends you a preliminary email informing you of your selection and your scheduled travel dates, then you don't see an itinerary up to two days before then the onus is on you to then get in contact and ask a question.. Any of a number of things could happen; travel agency cock up, email to junk etc..
with that said, let me be clear that I'm not faulting Jlloyd, because from what im getting, he did make concerted efforts to contact the TTFF to find out beforehand but to no avail.
Secondly....
Moms.. ah know yuh love yuh son and ah know yuh looking out for his best interest. My moms would probably do the same. But even though I glad for the zeppo, I personally disagree with you bringing the dirty laundry out in the open; or if you were going to do it then i think you shouldve done it anonymously.
There will be fallout... For one, his future relationship with the TTFF will be tense.. Now I know this may not be high up on the list of priorities, but i'm more concerned with this being taken up by the UK press and highlighted in a negative light, and the subsequent impact it could have. It wouldn't surprise me if the back page of the News of the World come out with a splash "Samuel's mom in row with federation" or some shit like that then the snowball effect comes in.. forums.. blogs.. fan chants at games.. stick from his teammates etc.. Is seemingly minor things like that could throw off ah man game.
You may have been well intentioned, but your son is a big man. My position is you shoulda let him handle it in his own manner.
This is high-grade bullshit. First off Orbitz is your travel agent, not your manager... they rightly don't call to follow up because it's not their duty to, they make flight arrangements, end of story. David Mohammed is no travel agent, he's the team manager. Team MANAGE-r is responsible for coordinating travel and logistics, as well as other minutiae such as accommodations, meals, per diems etc. You MANAGE... and yes, that means holding hands if necessary and making sure everyone understands where they are to be, when they're supposed to be there. Yes Jlloyd is a professional, but there is mutual responsibility... and in this case one person is tasked with a specific job and he failed to execute it properly. Imagine a Premier League player oversleeping and missing a flight... who's ass you think will be held over the fire (in addition to the player)? The team manager will be taken to task for not calling that player and making sure he's at the rendezvous point ahead of travel time. This is what sport team managers do... it is standard for the profession, but that in itself tells the story... none of these TTFF clowns see what they do as a profession so they treat it accordingly.
This other nonsense about "dirty laundry" is just that... NONSENSE. The woman right to come clear her son name because clearly the perception given out there by the TTFF is that Jlloyd half-assed and missed his flight and treating the national shirt with contempt. If his mother feels that he's too demure to clear his name then it's every bit her right to do so herself... especially since she made it clear that she contacted LP and got no response.
If there is fallout then so be it... TTFF blacklist man for a lot less, if it comes to that then Jlloyd is none the worse for the experience he goes back to living his life w/o having to deal with this jokey banana republic outfit.
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MEP agreed... nothing wrong with the email, my criticism is about the lack of follow-up. Sending an email is not communication, the other person receiving it and responding is. Until that happens then Mohammed hasn't done his job.
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Say what you like, but don't get personal and tell me what I must and must not do when it comes to my child.
Case CLOSED!
Damn right.
Ah glad he ketch heself and delete that nonsense response he'd put up. You have every right to seek your son's interest and it's nobody's business how and why you choose to do so. This is family, not friend or fan business.
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Here Here. Thanks Bake n Shark :applause:
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i will get some flack for this post but i want to highlight a few things..
Firstly, (if its in fact true) I don't see anything wrong in emailing flight itineraries. That is standard travel agency procedure. For example, Orbitz doesn't call you to find out if you got your flight itinerary in email, the most you might get is a follow up reminder email a couple days before. If the TTFF sends you a preliminary email informing you of your selection and your scheduled travel dates, then you don't see an itinerary up to two days before then the onus is on you to then get in contact and ask a question.. Any of a number of things could happen; travel agency cock up, email to junk etc..
with that said, let me be clear that I'm not faulting Jlloyd, because from what im getting, he did make concerted efforts to contact the TTFF to find out beforehand but to no avail.
Secondly....
Moms.. ah know yuh love yuh son and ah know yuh looking out for his best interest. My moms would probably do the same. But even though I glad for the zeppo, I personally disagree with you bringing the dirty laundry out in the open; or if you were going to do it then i think you shouldve done it anonymously.
There will be fallout... For one, his future relationship with the TTFF will be tense.. Now I know this may not be high up on the list of priorities, but i'm more concerned with this being taken up by the UK press and highlighted in a negative light, and the subsequent impact it could have. It wouldn't surprise me if the back page of the News of the World come out with a splash "Samuel's mom in row with federation" or some shit like that then the snowball effect comes in.. forums.. blogs.. fan chants at games.. stick from his teammates etc.. Is seemingly minor things like that could throw off ah man game.
You may have been well intentioned, but your son is a big man. My position is you shoulda let him handle it in his own manner.
This is high-grade bullshit. First off Orbitz is your travel agent, not your manager... they rightly don't call to follow up because it's not their duty to, they make flight arrangements, end of story. David Mohammed is no travel agent, he's the team manager. Team MANAGE-r is responsible for coordinating travel and logistics, as well as other minutiae such as accommodations, meals, per diems etc. You MANAGE... and yes, that means holding hands if necessary and making sure everyone understands where they are to be, when they're supposed to be there. Yes Jlloyd is a professional, but there is mutual responsibility... and in this case one person is tasked with a specific job and he failed to execute it properly. Imagine a Premier League player oversleeping and missing a flight... who's ass you think will be held over the fire (in addition to the player)? The team manager will be taken to task for not calling that player and making sure he's at the rendezvous point ahead of travel time. This is what sport team managers do... it is standard for the profession, but that in itself tells the story... none of these TTFF clowns see what they do as a profession so they treat it accordingly.
This other nonsense about "dirty laundry" is just that... NONSENSE. The woman right to come clear her son name because clearly the perception given out there by the TTFF is that Jlloyd half-assed and missed his flight and treating the national shirt with contempt. If his mother feels that he's too demure to clear his name then it's every bit her right to do so herself... especially since she made it clear that she contacted LP and got no response.
If there is fallout then so be it... TTFF blacklist man for a lot less, if it comes to that then Jlloyd is none the worse for the experience he goes back to living his life w/o having to deal with this jokey banana republic outfit.
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MEP agreed... nothing wrong with the email, my criticism is about the lack of follow-up. Sending an email is not communication, the other person receiving it and responding is. Until that happens then Mohammed hasn't done his job.
Regarding the email communication and manager's responsibility, one single line in the email would have necessitated no further correspondence:
Please confirm receipt of this email and itinerary in writing and inform of your availability.
Had that been a part of the correspondence then there would be no further need for him to call or remind the player that he had a flight that day. You must be crazy if you think that a manager would be taken to task for a player oversleeping and missing his flight further to all the arrangements being put in place.
I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that Muhammad didn't do his job properly and his lack of communication is shocking (but not surprising).. I just don't agree with the notion that he must call every man jack to remind them they have a flight in the morning.
as for the other part about dirty laundry, feel free to disagree but i stand firm. there are better channels to address that.
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Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Which I'm positive has happened to others before without insight from behind the scenes.
(Ah know is Track and Field but) people still cussing Kerron Clement even after Ato tell them is the NAAA that mess up.
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Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Which I'm positive has happened to others before without insight from behind the scenes.
(Ah know is Track and Field but) people still cussing Kerron Clement even after Ato tell them is the NAAA that mess up.
Yeah wit de level ignorance on dis forum, I cah disagree atall!
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Regarding the email communication and manager's responsibility, one single line in the email would have necessitated no further correspondence:
Please confirm receipt of this email and itinerary in writing and inform of your availability.
Had that been a part of the correspondence then there would be no further need for him to call or remind the player that he had a flight that day. You must be crazy if you think that a manager would be taken to task for a player oversleeping and missing his flight further to all the arrangements being put in place.
I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that Muhammad didn't do his job properly and his lack of communication is shocking (but not surprising).. I just don't agree with the notion that he must call every man jack to remind them they have a flight in the morning.
as for the other part about dirty laundry, feel free to disagree but i stand firm. there are better channels to address that.
That line about confirming receipt and availability still assumes that the intended recipient received the email... hearing no response Muhammad shouldn't be in the business of assuming receipt. The TTFF not that broke that they couldn't place a 2-minute call to player or agent to follow-up. That is where the screw up was.
Secondly... I could tell you FOR FACT, that that type of micromanagement is what takes place with professional team managers. I'm sure the job is rewarding but can also be a cross between herding cats and supervising a playground... but that's part and parcel with the title. If Muhammad is not up to the task (and anecdotal evidence abounds) then it's time for them to replace him. Personally I would prefer that they put in place some training and protocol so that stuff like the Noriega hotel screw up, the cutting man by text message etc. doesn't happen again... and not fire him. But if he needs to go then he needs to go.
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Cool Beans, Kerron Clement... Aaron Maund... just to name a few.
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In all fairness Omar, Jlloyd's mom was not really airing any dirty laundry. The whisperings and rumors were flying around the msg board before she said anything. I think another poster was relaying 2nd hand info from Andre Baptist about this before mysoccerson posted anything. From what I remember, her first post was actually intended to set the story straight based on the information that she had in her possession (due to inaccuracies in what was already being said on the forum). Can't fault her for that.
As far as the situation goes, it would appear that there were some unfortunate miscommunications. I think management should be held responsible for (not) ensuring that all intended email recipients, were set to travel (knew of itinerary, and had tickets/info/visas etc)...like 2 days in advance to prevent any last minute scramble. I don't know what the protocol is as far as the degree of hand holding in the process but clearly somewhere along the way expectations were not aligned. It seems like Samuel was also frustrated by other things that would have made this mix up the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm not sure if Muhammad (sp?) is fully responsible for the ticket mix up based on the facts at hand...but what seems clear based on other anecdotes coming out of this story, is that the degree of professionalism that is displayed by mgmt in all the different departments leaves alot to be desired, and as such there is a strained relationship between the players who expect more, and mgmt...and when this is the case, simple mistakes become alot more than just simple mistakes and the end result is what we're seeing here...players getting fed up, mgmt trying to cover their ass, inside squabbles becoming public, relationships (players, admin, fans, press) strained, and the overall sense of cohesion and unity within our program (including the fans) being jeopardized....the most feared end result is a compromised end product on the field of play...
In such a situation, managment needs to step up and be that bigger person, forget defending its position in the micro-situations, issue an apology for its part in any mix-up and communicate a commitment to fixing the overall macro picture, and the strained relationships, in order to get it's ship smooth sailing again- that's the job of management- f*ck the excuses, let down your defenses, swallow up your pride, manage your sh*t, and make things right...Anyone involved in any professional mix up has been there...Right or wrong- that's the price you pay for being in a management position.. and I've yet to get any indication that anything of that sort is being done...all that has been communicated by management is a petty defensive position in an isolated incident, at a time when it seems clear that this is just an unfortunately publicized blunder, the reaction to which, clearly reflects a much larger problem that exists as far as administration goes.
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Regarding the email communication and manager's responsibility, one single line in the email would have necessitated no further correspondence:
Please confirm receipt of this email and itinerary in writing and inform of your availability.
Had that been a part of the correspondence then there would be no further need for him to call or remind the player that he had a flight that day. You must be crazy if you think that a manager would be taken to task for a player oversleeping and missing his flight further to all the arrangements being put in place.
I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that Muhammad didn't do his job properly and his lack of communication is shocking (but not surprising).. I just don't agree with the notion that he must call every man jack to remind them they have a flight in the morning.
as for the other part about dirty laundry, feel free to disagree but i stand firm. there are better channels to address that.
That line about confirming receipt and availability still assumes that the intended recipient received the email... hearing no response Muhammad shouldn't be in the business of assuming receipt. The TTFF not that broke that they couldn't place a 2-minute call to player or agent to follow-up. That is where the screw up was.
Secondly... I could tell you FOR FACT, that that type of micromanagement is what takes place with professional team managers. I'm sure the job is rewarding but can also be a cross between herding cats supervising a playground... but that's part and parcel with the title. If Muhammad is not up to the task (and anecdotal evidence abounds) then it's time for them to replace him. Personally I would prefer that they put in place some training and protocol so that stuff like the Noriega hotel screw up, the cutting man by text message etc. doesn't happen again... and not fire him. But if he needs to go then he needs to go.
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Cool Beans, Kerron Clement... Aaron Maund... just to name a few.
Its not assuming anything. My point is, if that line were included (i shouldve also added confirm by x date) and Muhammad got no response, then that would necessitate an immediate follow up call.. Is these little things in the song and dance of email correspondence in the business world that determine where responsibilities lie and how future correspondence should proceed.
Secondly, whatever facts you have for professional management and the responsibilities that go hand in hand are not hard and fast rules across the board and also differ across different sports (unless you talking about football) i.e. international team management is much less hands-on and and much less micro-managed than club team management.. I am sure that the bulk of this man's role is event management, and everything else is secondary.
Nonetheless, like i said i fully on-board with the all the sentiments regarding Muhammad and his ineptitude in this capacity.. this is just the latest in a long string.
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i will get some flack for this post but i want to highlight a few things..
Firstly, (if its in fact true) I don't see anything wrong in emailing flight itineraries. That is standard travel agency procedure. For example, Orbitz doesn't call you to find out if you got your flight itinerary in email, the most you might get is a follow up reminder email a couple days before. If the TTFF sends you a preliminary email informing you of your selection and your scheduled travel dates, then you don't see an itinerary up to two days before then the onus is on you to then get in contact and ask a question.. Any of a number of things could happen; travel agency cock up, email to junk etc..
with that said, let me be clear that I'm not faulting Jlloyd, because from what im getting, he did make concerted efforts to contact the TTFF to find out beforehand but to no avail.
Secondly....
Moms.. ah know yuh love yuh son and ah know yuh looking out for his best interest. My moms would probably do the same. But even though I glad for the zeppo, I personally disagree with you bringing the dirty laundry out in the open; or if you were going to do it then i think you shouldve done it anonymously.
There will be fallout... For one, his future relationship with the TTFF will be tense.. Now I know this may not be high up on the list of priorities, but i'm more concerned with this being taken up by the UK press and highlighted in a negative light, and the subsequent impact it could have. It wouldn't surprise me if the back page of the News of the World come out with a splash "Samuel's mom in row with federation" or some shit like that then the snowball effect comes in.. forums.. blogs.. fan chants at games.. stick from his teammates etc.. Is seemingly minor things like that could throw off ah man game.
You may have been well intentioned, but your son is a big man. My position is you shoulda let him handle it in his own manner.
This is high-grade bullshit. First off Orbitz is your travel agent, not your manager... they rightly don't call to follow up because it's not their duty to, they make flight arrangements, end of story. David Mohammed is no travel agent, he's the team manager. Team MANAGE-r is responsible for coordinating travel and logistics, as well as other minutiae such as accommodations, meals, per diems etc. You MANAGE... and yes, that means holding hands if necessary and making sure everyone understands where they are to be, when they're supposed to be there. Yes Jlloyd is a professional, but there is mutual responsibility... and in this case one person is tasked with a specific job and he failed to execute it properly. Imagine a Premier League player oversleeping and missing a flight... who's ass you think will be held over the fire (in addition to the player)? The team manager will be taken to task for not calling that player and making sure he's at the rendezvous point ahead of travel time. This is what sport team managers do... it is standard for the profession, but that in itself tells the story... none of these TTFF clowns see what they do as a profession so they treat it accordingly.
This other nonsense about "dirty laundry" is just that... NONSENSE. The woman right to come clear her son name because clearly the perception given out there by the TTFF is that Jlloyd half-assed and missed his flight and treating the national shirt with contempt. If his mother feels that he's too demure to clear his name then it's every bit her right to do so herself... especially since she made it clear that she contacted LP and got no response.
If there is fallout then so be it... TTFF blacklist man for a lot less, if it comes to that then Jlloyd is none the worse for the experience he goes back to living his life w/o having to deal with this jokey banana republic outfit.
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MEP agreed... nothing wrong with the email, my criticism is about the lack of follow-up. Sending an email is not communication, the other person receiving it and responding is. Until that happens then Mohammed hasn't done his job.
Regarding the email communication and manager's responsibility, one single line in the email would have necessitated no further correspondence:
Please confirm receipt of this email and itinerary in writing and inform of your availability.
Had that been a part of the correspondence then there would be no further need for him to call or remind the player that he had a flight that day. You must be crazy if you think that a manager would be taken to task for a player oversleeping and missing his flight further to all the arrangements being put in place.
I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that Muhammad didn't do his job properly and his lack of communication is shocking (but not surprising).. I just don't agree with the notion that he must call every man jack to remind them they have a flight in the morning.
as for the other part about dirty laundry, feel free to disagree but i stand firm. there are better channels to address that.
Dinho that line still don't make anything different. You could put all the RSVP you want, the onus is o the manager to call and get the word from the horses' mouth. If he call and their is no response, then he informs the Coach and the federation TD that the players is not responding to text, email, or phone calls. Even if he have to jump on a plane (if they really need the player or concerned as to the non response) and go see what's up with the player. The federation is the one t oensure the player has everything they need, you feel is just so Brazil and Germany does beat people.
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Ah leave the board for a few days and is real bacchanal yes... :rotfl:
every body and they mum posting :devil:
Sorry Mrs Samuel... yuh know how Trinidadian administration is at every level
All we need now is fuh Jack to come and reveal which poster he is :beermug:
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Dinho, thanks for your input. I Appreciate it wholeheartedly.
Firstly: I do not think its anyone's business if I decided to vent my grievances on the negative things that I see going on.
Secondly: I do not have to hide behind close doors if I have to voice my opinion
Thirdly: Who are you to tell me to keep out of my child's business and let him fight his battles himself? Battles? I never new that Jlloyd was fighting a battle. Last time I checked, I was the one that was appalled by the treatment.
Fourthly: I know that he is a big man, so no need to remind me. Does that mean that whatever age your kids are and you see that someone is about to hang them to cover their backs, you are going to wait till it happen? I THINK NOT!!
Last and not least: Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Do do I regret all this. No.. And all this crap that it might meet English newspaper, then GREAT
And the comment about his friends will laugh at him....Please do me a favor and get with the programme. This is not kinder garden..
People will say what they want and when they want it. Its the way of bloody life!!
YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY
I likin u more evry day. Nice goin moms. If d other players family do what u dis tings might just change
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Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Which I'm positive has happened to others before without insight from behind the scenes.
(Ah know is Track and Field but) people still cussing Kerron Clement even after Ato tell them is the NAAA that mess up.
We just luv 2 cuss peeps who doh represent we they must just take d nonesense as part of representin TNT. Y 4 heaven's sake I will neva understand.
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Dinho, thanks for your input. I Appreciate it wholeheartedly.
Firstly: I do not think its anyone's business if I decided to vent my grievances on the negative things that I see going on.
Secondly: I do not have to hide behind close doors if I have to voice my opinion
Thirdly: Who are you to tell me to keep out of my child's business and let him fight his battles himself? Battles? I never new that Jlloyd was fighting a battle. Last time I checked, I was the one that was appalled by the treatment.
Fourthly: I know that he is a big man, so no need to remind me. Does that mean that whatever age your kids are and you see that someone is about to hang them to cover their backs, you are going to wait till it happen? I THINK NOT!!
Last and not least: Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Do do I regret all this. No.. And all this crap that it might meet English newspaper, then GREAT
And the comment about his friends will laugh at him....Please do me a favor and get with the programme. This is not kinder garden..
People will say what they want and when they want it. Its the way of bloody life!!
YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY
Well said !!!!!!!!
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Statement from David Muhammad
The invitation letter that I just e-mailed to was sent to the 6 UK based players that were originally invited since September 26th (15 days prior to the first match). It clearly states that players were to fly in on Sunday, Oct. 4th. Bobby Zamora was the only player who said he had to change the date to Oct.5th as he had a match on Oct.4th. Jlloyd for some reason felt that he was to fly on Oct.5th and went to the airport also despite what the letter said. I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th but was not located due to a the date change and original ticket number.
His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29th, but unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly. - David Muhammad.
Below is the letter of invitation sent all the overseas-based players on September 26,2009
Greetings,
I pray this brief invitation letter reaches you in the best of health and spirit.
You are among 6 UK based professionals being invited to play for the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men's National Football Team for the final 2 FIFA World Cup Qualifying matches on October 10th and 14th against Costa Rica (away) and Mexico (home) respectively.
Our UK based players are expected to fly in to Trinidad on the evening of Sunday, October 4th and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on Wednesday, October 7th. We return to Trinidad to Sunday, October 11th to prepare for the final game against Mexico on October 14th. All overseas based players shall return to their separate leagues on Thursday, October 15th. Release letters have been sent and should have already been received by your clubs.
If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to e-mail, text or contact me on the number below,
Regards,
David Muhammad
T&T National Team Manager
OK, I have read this over and over and trying to make sense of it and ah still confuse.
First of all no where in that letter state what the flight itinerary was, it just say they are expected to fly in the country at some time in the evening. Plus he then say the ticket was for Oct 5th and simpauls could not find it cus it was changed, never said from when to when that change was made. so how Jlloyd suppose to know the exact time his flight would be?
That email was just the ivitation to rep the country, that was no flight details letting Jlloyd know when the flight was, he was expecting that to come at a later date, did not get it, so he decide he will just pack and get ready and go to the airport (thinking it was sun evening) guess he misunderstood the initial email ( i may have to at 1st)...but when he got there, no ticket was available yet again...so what you expect the poor boy to do...not say forget it and go back to the team that paying his bills? Steupsss
Big Up!
DeSoWa:
Your analysis is exactly correct. When you making flight arrangements for someone, you don't tell tell them when they are arriving at the end of the trip (except for incidental information), you impress on them when their departure time is. What does Jlloyd care about when he gets into TT? He needs to know when he has to get to the airport to depart. The info released by TTFF is at best confusing with all kinds of details about the US players that is no use top Mr. Samuel. Again, a clear demonstration of the inefficient way we have of doing things in Trinidad. It would have been nice to see how he fit in with Julius James and Primus as the future of the defensive team!
The only good or positive thing I observe in this story is the ongoing desire of Jlloyd to play for TT. We shall see!
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Ah leave the board for a few days and is real bacchanal yes... :rotfl:
All we need now is fuh Jack to come and reveal which poster he is :beermug:
Dat not necessary he croonies doin a hell of a job.
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Coop's
Dinho
... anyone else? ;D
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dey buy computers for the under 20 boys.. they could at least buy Magic-jack for the seniors, instead ah texting....
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Coop's
Dinho
... anyone else? ;D
please eh fellah..
i just trying to bring a lil objectivity to the table. who want to disagree and cheerlead could feel free, its really of no consequence.
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Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Which I'm positive has happened to others before without insight from behind the scenes.
(Ah know is Track and Field but) people still cussing Kerron Clement even after Ato tell them is the NAAA that mess up.
We just luv 2 cuss peeps who doh represent we they must just take d nonesense as part of representin TNT. Y 4 heaven's sake I will neva understand.
False pride.
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Dinho, thanks for your input. I Appreciate it wholeheartedly.
Firstly: I do not think its anyone's business if I decided to vent my grievances on the negative things that I see going on.
Secondly: I do not have to hide behind close doors if I have to voice my opinion
Thirdly: Who are you to tell me to keep out of my child's business and let him fight his battles himself? Battles? I never new that Jlloyd was fighting a battle. Last time I checked, I was the one that was appalled by the treatment.
Fourthly: I know that he is a big man, so no need to remind me. Does that mean that whatever age your kids are and you see that someone is about to hang them to cover their backs, you are going to wait till it happen? I THINK NOT!!
Last and not least: Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Do do I regret all this. No.. And all this crap that it might meet English newspaper, then GREAT
And the comment about his friends will laugh at him....Please do me a favor and get with the programme. This is not kinder garden..
People will say what they want and when they want it. Its the way of bloody life!!
YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY
Mysoccerson ... it is good that you are on the site.... I would have done the same for my kids ..... and even more!!!!!
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Coop you are as ignorant as some of the people in Administration. To call my child a baby? First of all I told Jlloyd about the letter that I was sending. I told Jlloyd about the interview that was being done today.
He is a cool laid back guy that do not like bacchanal as you would call it. I am the one that he called to vent on what happened.
I was the one that took it upon myself to take it further. So to call my child a baby" You are so right" He is my baby, and I will stick up and protect him and his sister until I die. Its call LOVE. And guess what Coop. Our family is bonded and thrive by that four letter word 'LOVE".So please do not try to hate nor disrespect my child,because there is plenty more pepper in my pot.
I may have left Trinidad when I was a teenager, but believe me the veins still run like a Trini.
RESPECT
"Our family is bonded and thrive by that four letter word 'LOVE"
This is exactly what's missing from TnT's society today and could well be the root of many of the social problems we face as a people. Not enough love and support to go around. Forget the issue at hand.. I applaud you for showing so much genuine support for your child.
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
Yeah Sam i noticed that little USA jab too.
As for the actually rebuttal, it read like complete nonsense. 'I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th ' But yet you said Samuel was supposed to be on a flight on the 4th? Muhammed also offers no explanation for the magical changing of Samuel's ticket number.
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
Yeah Sam i noticed that little USA jab too.
As for the actually rebuttal, it read like complete nonsense. 'I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th ' But yet you said Samuel was supposed to be on a flight on the 4th? Muhammed also offers no explanation for the magical changing of Samuel's ticket number.
Dat jab eh land zero pts. Then he was TKO after d press release. It have more holes than swiss cheese.
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
Jah and Eman go share d IT duties. Dat SWTTFF lookin good. We done have d administrator sorted out.
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
Westcoast for team manager. That will flood out yuh inbox with flight itinerary reminders lol..
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The below is a statement from National Senior Team manager David Muhammad on the matter highlighted in a story written and published on the fans forum Socawarriors.net which is a website ran by fans living in the USA.
Seems Shaun trying to say de fans wrote de letter (which we didn't) and they living in de US and in smart way they dont know what going on because they living thousands of miles away.
I say, he is trying to be sarcastic, seems like a riff between Flex and Shaun is broiling...
And David Muhammad is a dummy.
If they mess up, no big deal, just say so, everyone makes mistakes. A simple phone call is still the BEST way...
I am sure Jlloyd will call up the other five invited players and make arrangments to meet them in de airport if he had known in time.
Yeah Sam i noticed that little USA jab too.
As for the actually rebuttal, it read like complete nonsense. 'I was informed by Simpaul's Travel agency that Samuel's ticket was paid for in full and available on Oct.5th ' But yet you said Samuel was supposed to be on a flight on the 4th? Muhammed also offers no explanation for the magical changing of Samuel's ticket number.
Dat jab eh land zero pts. Then he was TKO after d press release. It have more holes than swiss cheese.
lol
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
Westcoast for team manager. That will flood out yuh inbox with flight itinerary reminders lol..
:rotfl:
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
Westcoast for team manager. That will flood out yuh inbox with flight itinerary reminders lol..
I think he would have to fight with Weary for dat wuk :devil: ;D
Big Up!
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SOME BODY PLEASE APPOINT THIS WOMAN AS THE SPECIAL ADVISOR/ADMINISTRATOR.... PLEASE! :beermug:
Y yuh dislike d lady or is anew TTFF yuh talkin bout 4 she 2 b advisor and administrator.
New TTFF aka SWTTFF give SMALL MAG the MARKETING DIRECTOR job, TOUCHES the media officer wuk... Tallman the Scouting Job, Put BM on the disciplinary committee. Since FLEX running this board fuh next to nutten all these years, he go wuk Treasury. Capo do help we with the entertainment... Jah Gol we go find sumethin fuh he.
Westcoast for team manager. That will flood out yuh inbox with flight itinerary reminders lol..
I think he would have to fight with Weary for dat wuk :devil: ;D
Big Up!
Nah he can have it.
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The real issue here have something to do with TT menatality.
This manager obviously feel he is more important to the team than the players.
I still maintain that a simple phone call to all the players telling them of their selection is the right thing to do.
sending an email is BS.
Men decide to play for their country adopted or otherwise and yuh insult them by sending an email ?
This manager lazy and on ride.
I remember the last manager in Germany sweating because the day before the Sweden game his wife did not turn up yet with the pigeon peas so that the players could get pelau before the big game, that was manager who did everything the palyers.
All TTFF had to do was go to digicel or tstt and ask them for phones and the companies woulda be asking them how much they want.
Not even the inept WIBC treat palyers this way, they always call the players.
Jlloyd and no other player deserve this shyte.
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The real issue here have something to do with TT menatality.
This manager obviously feel he is more important to the team than the players.
I still maintain that a simple phone call to all the players telling them of their selection is the right thing to do.
sending an email is BS.
Men decide to play for their country adopted or otherwise and yuh insult them by sending an email ?
This manager lazy and on ride.
I remember the last manager in Germany sweating because the day before the Sweden game his wife did not turn up yet with the pigeon peas so that the players could get pelau before the big game, that was manager who did everything the palyers.
All TTFF had to do was go to digicel or tstt and ask them for phones and the companies woulda be asking them how much they want.
Not even the inept WIBC treat palyers this way, they always call the players.
Jlloyd and no other player deserve this shyte.
For the PR is CEOLE TONGUE vs ENGLISH TONGUE vs American tongue... and do leh we go with turkish tongue... dialect does get in the way so we BBing and emailing dem they invited and flight info. :beermug:
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The real issue here have something to do with TT menatality.
This manager obviously feel he is more important to the team than the players.
I still maintain that a simple phone call to all the players telling them of their selection is the right thing to do.
sending an email is BS.
Men decide to play for their country adopted or otherwise and yuh insult them by sending an email ?
This manager lazy and on ride.
I remember the last manager in Germany sweating because the day before the Sweden game his wife did not turn up yet with the pigeon peas so that the players could get pelau before the big game, that was manager who did everything the palyers.
All TTFF had to do was go to digicel or tstt and ask them for phones and the companies woulda be asking them how much they want.
Not even the inept WIBC treat palyers this way, they always call the players.
Jlloyd and no other player deserve this shyte.
you know. is like they dont even have a secretary at the front desk to do this or what!!!
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nobody find it interesting (but expected) that travel arranged by simpaul's travel agency....owned by Jack Warner and co.
...and the warners' exploitation of T&T football for their financial gain continues.
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nobody find it interesting (but expected) that travel arranged by simpaul's travel agency....owned by Jack Warner and co.
...and the warners' exploitation of T&T football for their financial gain continues.
If it was not Simpaul's we woulda b shock and Shabazz chattin he nonesense dat we need jack. He use d wrong pronoun. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NEEDDDDDDDDDD JACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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After we exit form Egypt some ah the simpaul execs took in the Chelski vs Liver =fool game... no big deal, but they was in stretch Hummer and drinking champaign... Daryll say he daddy eh pay for de luxuries... each man pay fuh it with they own credit card.... No big deal.... but it in de back ah meh head how they did the "Ticket or Leave It" and make so much money by exploiting de people...
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After we exit form Egypt some ah the simpaul execs took in the Chelski vs Liver =fool game... no big deal, but they was in stretch Hummer and drinking champaign... Daryll say he daddy eh pay for de luxuries... each man pay fuh it with they own credit card.... No big deal.... but it in de back ah meh head how they did the "Ticket or Leave It" and make so much money by exploiting de people...
Ah call dat What ah thing money :rotfl: :beermug:
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After we exit form Egypt some ah the simpaul execs took in the Chelski vs Liver =fool game... no big deal, but they was in stretch Hummer and drinking champaign... Daryll say he daddy eh pay for de luxuries... each man pay fuh it with they own credit card.... No big deal.... but it in de back ah meh head how they did the "Ticket or Leave It" and make so much money by exploiting de people...
Ah call dat What ah thing money :rotfl: :beermug:
De effed up part when we confront Daryll that jack pay fuh it... he say no he go show we de credit card statement... ah man reply "who yuh does get direct deposit from?"
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After we exit form Egypt some ah the simpaul execs took in the Chelski vs Liver =fool game... no big deal, but they was in stretch Hummer and drinking champaign... Daryll say he daddy eh pay for de luxuries... each man pay fuh it with they own credit card.... No big deal.... but it in de back ah meh head how they did the "Ticket or Leave It" and make so much money by exploiting de people...
and the raping continues.
what a shame.
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Thank you TnT :beermug:
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Thank you TnT :beermug:
Imagine that this man has the ballz to try to run for a position in Government....what a ting it go be if he ever get that type of power and access to funds ....but I can't say it will neva happen because Trini's seem to be so blind to this deceitful bastard and his Group.... it's mind blowing....What ah Frickin shame and embarrassment this man is to our Country!!!!
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Imagine that this man has the ballz to try to run for a position in Government....what a ting it go be if he ever get that type of power and access to funds ....but I can't say it will neva happen because Trini's seem to be so blind to this deceitful bastard and his Group.... it's mind blowing....What ah Frickin shame and embarrassment this man is to our Country!!!!
What is even more mind boggling is that he WILL get votes. We are our own worst enemies
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Dis Facebook ting eh....lawd!
lol
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What's funny to me is,didn't all the UK based players get the same letter,how some came and Jloyd alone did not get there,something just not adding up here.
So when he eh respond d prophet could not re-sent d email. LOUDEST OF STEUPSSSSSSS
Yes he should off because is a baby he dealing with,you eh see is his mother has to answer everything for him.
Is good to see I was right about you. Yuh is ah damn idiot and have no respect.
You on yuh agenda everyday.
Yuh think Jlloyd mother shouldn't stand up for she son. If more mothers was that protective of they kids ah bet the murder rate in T&T would be ah lot lower. Ah parent defending she son so yuh come with street thug mentality "ah boy yuh mammy come to defend yuh ha ha" so what the average person on the street respond to that by doing? Jlloyd have ah football career to protect and Jlloyd mother career is family first. How yuh could find ah problem with that ???
No wonder yuh never apologize the last time fuh making ah fool ah yuhself. Do we ah favour keep that kinda attitude to yuhself.
Not cool. Not cool atal
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Imagine that this man has the ballz to try to run for a position in Government....what a ting it go be if he ever get that type of power and access to funds ....but I can't say it will neva happen because Trini's seem to be so blind to this deceitful bastard and his Group.... it's mind blowing....What ah Frickin shame and embarrassment this man is to our Country!!!!
What is even more mind boggling is that he WILL get votes. We are our own worst enemies
He get votes in a UNC safe seat u hear d story bout d crapaud well chag west literally got a crapaud
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Dinho, thanks for your input. I Appreciate it wholeheartedly.
Firstly: I do not think its anyone's business if I decided to vent my grievances on the negative things that I see going on.
Secondly: I do not have to hide behind close doors if I have to voice my opinion
Thirdly: Who are you to tell me to keep out of my child's business and let him fight his battles himself? Battles? I never new that Jlloyd was fighting a battle. Last time I checked, I was the one that was appalled by the treatment.
Fourthly: I know that he is a big man, so no need to remind me. Does that mean that whatever age your kids are and you see that someone is about to hang them to cover their backs, you are going to wait till it happen? I THINK NOT!!
Last and not least: Here is what I see that would have happen.. Jlloyd never turn up for the game because of a right groin strain. This forum would have taken him to the cleaners, and judge him differently.
Do do I regret all this. No.. And all this crap that it might meet English newspaper, then GREAT
And the comment about his friends will laugh at him....Please do me a favor and get with the programme. This is not kinder garden..
People will say what they want and when they want it. Its the way of bloody life!!
YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY
Well said Moms :applause: :applause:
this is a fan website and if Teams are on here to discredit players (as you mentioned that some would think that JLS was shirking his responsibilities)...well they are dumb no armen...and those affected should get up, stand up.....again....well done
and in closing, moms, you just have to learn to IGNORE some posters on here