Ok guys, this is what.
Heather MacKenzie of MLF sports, the agent who is responsible for getting many of our players contracts to play abroad asked me politely to tell you guys to tone it down a bit when players are going on trials as clubs have been reading your reviews and it could affect the players getting contracts.... (IE Kerwyn Jemmott). - who didn't get an offer because of the things written on the forum which was part of the problem.
As you all might know our forum is very popular and you wouldn't believe who reads the forum an a regular basis.
She said she loves the forum and reads it everyday and she is "not" against freedom of speech or anything but just wanted you guys to say "good stuff" if you really care about the players getting any contracts.
She said she is not blaming anyone in particular, she just wanted us to cooperate with her a little.
In the Jamal Gay thread people asking if he's connected with Joe Public (not speculations) and so on and it seems the clubs in now a little suspicious. I agree with what she says and I am pleading with you guys too tone it down at least until the player officially signs and this goes for every player from here on, not just Jamal.
She said "I know the blogging is important but the clubs and foreign press read these threads as well. I hope you see I am trying to do right by the players and appreciate all the support. I am just trying to stay a bit under the radar if possible on this one, thanks, Heather"
Thank you and I hope you guys understand.
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!very well said
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
:devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
lolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
Orrite den, permit me to be Devil's advocate here thenlolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
but seriously i get the point. IT ALL ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Initially people will think how stupid it is but, clubs would like to get players for the cheapest they can. so when they see thing like man might play for Caledonia AIA, they might get scared and think there agent lied to them in a ploy to drive up the price with another club . It's like hearing about your player was flirting and meeting with another club and that will get the other club upset. plain and simple fellow forumites just post facts instead of rumors. If you dont have a source don't post it. Or we should make a separate section for rumors only, maybe.
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!
Ok guys, this is what.
Heather MacKenzie of MLF sports, the agent who is responsible for getting many of our players contracts to play abroad asked me politely to tell you guys to tone it down a bit when players are going on trials as clubs have been reading your reviews and it could affect the players getting contracts.... (IE Kerwyn Jemmott). - who didn't get an offer because of the things written on the forum which was part of the problem.
Orrite den, permit me to be Devil's advocate here thenlolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
but seriously i get the point. IT ALL ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Initially people will think how stupid it is but, clubs would like to get players for the cheapest they can. so when they see thing like man might play for Caledonia AIA, they might get scared and think there agent lied to them in a ploy to drive up the price with another club . It's like hearing about your player was flirting and meeting with another club and that will get the other club upset. plain and simple fellow forumites just post facts instead of rumors. If you dont have a source don't post it. Or we should make a separate section for rumors only, maybe.
IF that was true, STERN would NEVER get ah work if they did read all Disgruntled post an dem :devil:
I cant see how this will negatively affect somebody's ability to find ah work
is like saying......that ya go in Zen and ya over hear some body's EX gurl bad talking ah man and ya disregard him from negotitions fa dat...sorry.................in other words, the information has to come from a Credible source ;)
lolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
but seriously i get the point. IT ALL ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Initially people will think how stupid it is but, clubs would like to get players for the cheapest they can. so when they see thing like man might play for Caledonia AIA, they might get scared and think there agent lied to them in a ploy to drive up the price with another club . It's like hearing about your player was flirting and meeting with another club and that will get the other club upset. plain and simple fellow forumites just post facts instead of rumors. If you dont have a source don't post it. Or we should make a separate section for rumors only, maybe.
Ok guys, this is what.
Heather MacKenzie of MLF sports, the agent who is responsible for getting many of our players contracts to play abroad asked me politely to tell you guys to tone it down a bit when players are going on trials as clubs have been reading your reviews and it could affect the players getting contracts.... (IE Kerwyn Jemmott). - who didn't get an offer because of the things written on the forum which was part of the problem.
abroad?
Tobago?
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!
Thank you!
I love the job that Ms. Mackenzie is doing on the part of her clients but if she can't provide prospective employers with sufficient information to counter the speculation that's occuring in cyberspace... then who's fault is that bloggers and posters? Give me a f**king break.
Additionally... if clubs get jittery over the comments made by anonymous posters on a messageboard then just how 'professional' are these clubs? Don't they have scouting departments and emissaries that they can send out... I mean shit, have some low level admin call up the pro-league outfit and derive information about what's being said. Speak with our own journalist poseur, Fido Fuentes and see what info the TTFF can provide.
This whole situation... from the alleged reaction of the clubs to the 'request'... is in a word, nonsensical.
lolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
but seriously i get the point. IT ALL ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Initially people will think how stupid it is but, clubs would like to get players for the cheapest they can. so when they see thing like man might play for Caledonia AIA, they might get scared and think there agent lied to them in a ploy to drive up the price with another club . It's like hearing about your player was flirting and meeting with another club and that will get the other club upset. plain and simple fellow forumites just post facts instead of rumors. If you dont have a source don't post it. Or we should make a separate section for rumors only, maybe.
But wait a minute we don't only criticise our players on this forum,we go after footballers all over the world,so should we be expecting a similar post from every other countries PR officer asking that we tone down the criticism,because some of there players lost out on contracts as a result of the soca warriors forum,look here pure madness the proof in puddin is in the eating,it may be old school to some but still the most effective way of judging a player,this forum has been a success for years because of it's ability to allow criticism whether good or bad,praises to the moderators for their efforts in keeping this forum the number one in my book, on the other hand if there is a threatening remark to another person on this site it is quickly dispatched with an taken off the forum.
I guess the club didn't read any of T.I. posts?
I guess the club didn't read any of T.I. posts?well, dem DEFINITELY ent professional
I going and start talking about all the US players who does drink and drive, hang out in the ghetto, dog fight, and go to the Pink Pony. I find a way to help T&T progress. Now no US players will get contract in the MLS or foreign cause I talk about them having bad personailty traits.yeah, do it ;D
Or and by the way I just saw Hyland help an old lady to cross the street and into a bus. :angel:
well, im gunna start posting things solely to improve our young and upcoming (hardest) players,
for instance, not only is Jamal Gay an excellent player, but he also bakes delicious cookies.
Take that jittery scouts!
It may not be unprofessional this seems to be a new approach at finding out how the players are in their comfort zone after they've stopped "acting their best" to gain a contract. In fact it may be a little personality trait that a two men at a club may be disputing and one man might suggest they find a forum where the locals talk about the player to see if it was mentioned. Remember clubs don't want to make bad investments this is just an innovative way of doing so, it may form let's say 5% of the decision but if they thought the man was iffy in the first place it's a big 5%Very well said.
Anybody in HR here? with the hundreds of resumes in an office with everybody qualified doesn't it come down to what personal qualities you can discern on the interview? However saying it's the sole basis for selection is rubbish, no need to go overboard and suggest man might pick a coach from a web page.
lolya see...dat is exactly wha she talkin boutent? next time they cut him for poming in the team bus :rotfl::devil:Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!I 2nd that. That saved Jemmott cause who would want to be in club that runned by idiots like that :rotfl:
ya just ruined de man career
but seriously i get the point. IT ALL ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Initially people will think how stupid it is but, clubs would like to get players for the cheapest they can. so when they see thing like man might play for Caledonia AIA, they might get scared and think there agent lied to them in a ploy to drive up the price with another club . It's like hearing about your player was flirting and meeting with another club and that will get the other club upset. plain and simple fellow forumites just post facts instead of rumors. If you dont have a source don't post it. Or we should make a separate section for rumors only, maybe.
It could have been part of de solution too. It jes depends how yuh look at it. De fella check heself after seeing peeps writing stuff about him. I hope he come back strong. We all know how talented he is.best post so far
The first thing that come out most people mouth here is the moderaters trying to gag we for criticizing players.Our forum is popular. I think that's amazing.ent ,if a player on a trial with ah club ,hush yah f**king mouth ah little bit nah.
At the same time, I would hope that a compromize will come about where we will find out about the players, and Flex suggestion that we could at least wait til they get sign could work for now
Ms MacKenzie just ask if we can tone it down, at least until the player signs. She never said to not post anything.
And if you guys cant understand that, then by all means continue, its your choice.
Our players (Jamal) for example is unknown to the world and believe it or not clubs use the internet to research players and when you google a player name from T&T this website comes up first.
Teams may not use the forum to gauge players, but I am sure they will use it to understand more about players they hardly know to get to know them a little better off the field.
Imagine I google your name and all I could find is bad things being said about you.... now you could be a good player but when I google your name and it shows you play for 10 different clubs and you were missing training and had off the field problems that eventually cost you your job dont you think that would have some sort of impact on the clubs decisions.
MacKenzie told me she got Jemmott to turn a new leaf and the forum was PART of the problem.... the club's press will research the player (as we do here) and write news on them. I see many clubs using stuff on this site that I wrote myself. The internet is a strong tool.... it saves you time and money...
Our players are going on trial with small teams, remember this, these clubs will use anything possible to research players who they never saw or heard from in their life.
I dont understand why MacKenzie who has been getting many contracts for a lot of our players lately will lie. I see no problem just keeping low or congratulating a player if he goes on a trial anyway.
BTW - Thanks Palos...
BS. Teams reading forums now for player profile? Lawd, next thing one of the many coaches here might get wuk too.
MacKenzie told me she got Jemmott to turn a new leaf and the forum was PART of the problem.... the club's press will research the player (as we do here) and write news on them. I see many clubs using stuff on this site that I wrote myself. The internet is a strong tool.... it saves you time and money...
Yuh know....I watching and listening and I fed up with all yuh chupidness. Ah was going and let all yuh bask in all yuh ignorance, but evidently is either all yuh in de work force long time, or all yuh doh have no wuk, or all yuh not currently looking for ah wuk, or all yuh have no idea the extent to which HR departments all over the world now operate.
Fus ting Fus......De thread not saying dat all clubs does use de forum to make decisions on de players at hand. It is jes dat sometimes, when yuh have more than one qualified applicant, yuh might resort to alternative sources as a determining factor. It is not like on ah man resume dey have a section stating "What forum should we go to, to check on your ability?" because das how all yuh interpreting it.....de men who claim to be "intahlec". I happen to have a little knowledge about how recruiters does do it now in the US, and they going as far as to check man FACEBOOK profile behind dey back and digging up dirt on dem. Orrr, and dey checking de myspace bizness too. It jes goes to show that companies want to make sure that they making de best choice all de time. Is big money involved, and de wus ting yuh want to do is make ah bad investment. So what de thread saying is dat, SOMETIMES, people might resort to de forum for a second opinion. STOP being Chupid people, and jes say hard luck, we wouldnt do it again. No need to justify de assness all yuh trying to do.
I really think some posters here should listen more carefully to what Flex has to say.
The reality of the situation is that many of our T&T players are not well known internationally and any information that clubs glean on these players (even the bits and pieces on forums such as these) is useful to a club interested in their services. The level of professionalism can be questioned but don't doubt that it happens - maybe not to the extent Ms. Mackenzie is arguing though.
Many companies I know use Facebook to look up potential job candidates and make judgments based on their Facebook pages, walls and pictures. You'd be surprised at how many seemingly 'professional' companies have people in HR do this. Similarly, it can be conceived that clubs use forums in a similar manner. After all, I know some forumites who visit other club forums (Sunderland etc.) to get an idea how our players are viewed by the club's fans.
Of course many would disagree, laugh it off or simply not care. I'm not saying criticism of players isn't welcome but I'd think carefully before posting rumors, speculations and ole talk at a time when a player is on trial with a club.
This is funny but understandable. Question... wouldn't de same clubs see this post also and feel like de info purported on our site is phony? At any rate to add a little validity to de story.... For anyone who have recently applied for a job in de corporate world..... Managers and employers do ask for a face book entry to check you out so to speak so to say that clubs reading up on players is foolish is prehistoric. Its the new world. However to say that a club would accept or dismiss a person/player on de merits that we transmit is dumb.
While I disagree on principle with the request, and with the overall premise on which it was made... I also fully agree that people should think twice before lambasting some of these players. I personally make it a point not to be overly critical of players, after all, there is a reason why I do what I do and they're doing what they do. All that aside, these fellas are just trying to make a living, in the least we should be understanding of that.
Yuh start back making sense since ah had to buff yuh last time Bake and Shark.
I going and start talking about all the US players who does drink and drive, hang out in the ghetto, dog fight, and go to the Pink Pony. I find a way to help T&T progress. Now no US players will get contract in the MLS or foreign cause I talk about them having bad personailty traits.:rotfl: Nah you dont get it. this is the BEST and maybe only rescource people have on players from our tiny island. the US have hundreds of other website to do research on their players, so your ploy wont work. Maybe on smaller nations and Jamaica, etc.
Or and by the way I just saw Hyland help an old lady to cross the street and into a bus. :angel:
Kerwynn Jemmot once helped my elderly grandmother cross the busy intersection of Frederick Street:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If there are any scouts trying to find info on him,I'm sure your club and the members grandmothers will benefit greatly from his altruism
I see him give the whiner man in front of smokey & bonty ah dollar.
I see him give the whiner man in front of smokey & bonty ah dollar.
Totally off topic but I curious.
Since when WINE become WHINE? I doh get it. Ah have meh theory dat is because of a jamaican influence whey dem does drop een a "HAYCH" before every vowel. If dat theory is accurate...is EVERYTING we have to try and copy so? Winin to de bess of my knowledge is a Trini term. We so anxious to emulate others dat we have to copy how dey spell we own terminology too? If daz de case..we might as well start heatin homelet, hegg, & happle.
Jes had to ask. Proceed.
I see him give the whiner man in front of smokey & bonty ah dollar.
Totally off topic but I curious.
Since when WINE become WHINE? I doh get it. Ah have meh theory dat is because of a jamaican influence whey dem does drop een a "HAYCH" before every vowel. If dat theory is accurate...is EVERYTING we have to try and copy so? Winin to de bess of my knowledge is a Trini term. We so anxious to emulate others dat we have to copy how dey spell we own terminology too? If daz de case..we might as well start heatin homelet, hegg, & happle.
Jes had to ask. Proceed.
yuh see how allyuh does cause stress..Balawo get ah offer to teach english at ah u.s.university...now dey go pull back de offer
They cannot be partaking in questionable acivities and then want people to stay quiet.
I think the level of dotishness communicated by some in this thread alone could possibly render this forum an inappropriate place to gather any credible info...
People are always so sensitive about their right to free speech that it clouds their sensibilities. A right doesn't negate the accompanying responsibility, and just because you have the right and the freedom to say what you like, it doesn't make everything you say appropriate for the given situation.
The contention that an organization shouldn't put too much stock into what is being said here has nothing to do with what is being asked. It is what it is (unless you think that Flex & McKenzie are being dishonest). How organizations should go about getting their info is a different discussion.
All that is being asked for is some discretion in cases where indiscretion could have (and has had in the past) negative ramifications. I don't see what all the fuss is about.
At the same time though, these fellas have to understand the need to sought out their business if they looking to enter a professional outfit abroad. They cannot be partaking in questionable acivities and then want peopl eto stay quiet.
I think the level of dotishness communicated by some in this thread alone could possibly render this forum an inappropriate place to gather any credible info...
People are always so sensitive about their right to free speech that it clouds their sensibilities. A right doesn't negate the accompanying responsibility, and just because you have the right and the freedom to say what you like, it doesn't make everything you say appropriate for the given situation.
The contention that an organization shouldn't put too much stock into what is being said here has nothing to do with what is being asked. It is what it is (unless you think that Flex & McKenzie are being dishonest). How organizations should go about getting their info is a different discussion.
All that is being asked for is some discretion in cases where indiscretion could have (and has had in the past) negative ramifications. I don't see what all the fuss is about.
It's unfortunate that we may be forced to censor our opinions (as ridiculous as they may be) and consequently some of the fun due to the increased popularity/credibility that the forum has enjoyed. To quote Peter Parker, "With more power comes more responsibility." I truly believe that each forum member has the best interest of our nation's football and our nation's footballers at heart and will try to exercise more discretion in the future.
However, let me ask this question. Is it okay for someone to post that he dislikes an aspect of a player's game? Or that he doesn't think that the player is very good? Or one-dimensional? How about if he saw that player in Zen lashing real beers the night before a WCQ?
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!As unprofessional as employers looking at the Facebook pages of prospective employees!!!
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!As unprofessional as employers looking at the Facebook pages of prospective employees!!!
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!As unprofessional as employers looking at the Facebook pages of prospective employees!!!
freakazoid. great right footer, with a left foot rated at 4/5 . jus over 6 feet and is an excellent header of the ball. fit 4 days. brings his own water to trainning and to games.
now i hear what is being said and i am never really critical of much players . but ppl who coming and say men dotish ah having a prob with that. my sister does not use her real name on face book because of the hr ppl checking up on those things. but if i find ah man is ah shithong . why shouldnt i say that? thats an opinion. ppl will always see things differently and thhings said abpout players on this board is very close to the mark.
so i think the kind hearted lady should address her concerns to the footballers of this country. once yuh have a poor attitude and poor work ethic towards the game clubs will know, because of this forum.
back to matters of importance............freakazoid is a very versatile player he can play anyway on the right side and can even stand between the uprights, if strongly persuaded.belives in 1 man 2 1 woman so the tabloids will never have stories or pictures of him that can be damaging to a clubs rep
freakazoid. great right footer, with a left foot rated at 4/5 . jus over 6 feet and is an excellent header of the ball. fit 4 days. brings his own water to trainning and to games.
now i hear what is being said and i am never really critical of much players . but ppl who coming and say men dotish ah having a prob with that. my sister does not use her real name on face book because of the hr ppl checking up on those things. but if i find ah man is ah shithong . why shouldnt i say that? thats an opinion. ppl will always see things differently and thhings said abpout players on this board is very close to the mark.
so i think the kind hearted lady should address her concerns to the footballers of this country. once yuh have a poor attitude and poor work ethic towards the game clubs will know, because of this forum.
back to matters of importance............freakazoid is a very versatile player he can play anyway on the right side and can even stand between the uprights, if strongly persuaded.belives in 1 man 2 1 woman so the tabloids will never have stories or pictures of him that can be damaging to a clubs rep
nice try, but your career done gone thru after i sully yuh name in the fantasy cup thread last year.. no morals, so no coming back for you.. :devil:
I really think some posters here should listen more carefully to what Flex has to say.
The reality of the situation is that many of our T&T players are not well known internationally and any information that clubs glean on these players (even the bits and pieces on forums such as these) is useful to a club interested in their services. The level of professionalism can be questioned but don't doubt that it happens - maybe not to the extent Ms. Mackenzie is arguing though.
Many companies I know use Facebook to look up potential job candidates and make judgments based on their Facebook pages, walls and pictures. You'd be surprised at how many seemingly 'professional' companies have people in HR do this. Similarly, it can be conceived that clubs use forums in a similar manner. After all, I know some forumites who visit other club forums (Sunderland etc.) to get an idea how our players are viewed by the club's fans.
Of course many would disagree, laugh it off or simply not care. I'm not saying criticism of players isn't welcome but I'd think carefully before posting rumors, speculations and ole talk at a time when a player is on trial with a club.This is funny but understandable. Question... wouldn't de same clubs see this post also and feel like de info purported on our site is phony? At any rate to add a little validity to de story.... For anyone who have recently applied for a job in de corporate world..... Managers and employers do ask for a face book entry to check you out so to speak so to say that clubs reading up on players is foolish is prehistoric. Its the new world. However to say that a club would accept or dismiss a person/player on de merits that we transmit is dumb.
The Facebook analogy is flawed... many recruiters will indeed run a search of 'social networking' sites to see if candidates have posted any questionable content to their profiles. For some, 'questionable content' aside, the mere fact that a candidate has a social networking profile is to them proof positive of a lack of discretion on the part of said candidate, and a strike against their candidacy.
That is vastly different from this present situation. Here you don't have players posting "questionable content" or otherwised displaying any lack of discretion... or anything else that may serve as a primary source for guiding the judgment of a player's skill or character. Put another way, there is nothing done here by the players themselves that can be used as a strike against them, unlike the Facebook job applicant. What happens on discussion forums such as this is that you have a bunch of overly eager and often times overly emotional posters who anonymously post speculative, disparaging, and often unfounded information about players. As I said earlier... any talent representative worth their salt should be able to dispel these with accurate information... it's really not that difficult to find more accurate sources.
That said... I am not entirely unsympathetic to Ms. Mackenzie's position. Most of the talent on her client roster is marginal, these guys are lucky that people are even looking at them (being completely objective), so they start out the recruitment process with strikes already against them. To make it worse, they are competing with god knows however many other similarly situated players out there (other marginal talents), so clubs might be less inclined to take the time to sift thru the negative chatter when they know they can cut their losses early and just move on to the next prospect.
While I disagree on principle with the request, and with the overall premise on which it was made... I also fully agree that people should think twice before lambasting some of these players. I personally make it a point not to be overly critical of players, after all, there is a reason why I do what I do and they're doing what they do. All that aside, these fellas are just trying to make a living, in the least we should be understanding of that.
ya kno...out of idleness
MacKenzie told me she got Jemmott to turn a new leaf and the forum was PART of the problem.... the club's press will research the player (as we do here) and write news on them. I see many clubs using stuff on this site that I wrote myself. The internet is a strong tool.... it saves you time and money...
if this forum was PART of the problem then the blame hadda rest solely at the feet of T.I.
Is he who singlehandedly adopt Hardest and turn him into a larger than life cult hero, trying to ram the fellah down the forum throat as the second coming of Pele. Is he who make the man such an easy target and such ah forum phenomenon that as soon as a thread on Hardest pop up, it guaranteed at least two pages. Doh blame de forum. I sure he is aware of the damage done too given his conspicuous absence.
my 2 cents.
freakazoid. great right footer, with a left foot rated at 4/5 . jus over 6 feet and is an excellent header of the ball. fit 4 days. brings his own water to trainning and to games.
now i hear what is being said and i am never really critical of much players . but ppl who coming and say men dotish ah having a prob with that. my sister does not use her real name on face book because of the hr ppl checking up on those things. but if i find ah man is ah shithong . why shouldnt i say that? thats an opinion. ppl will always see things differently and thhings said abpout players on this board is very close to the mark.
so i think the kind hearted lady should address her concerns to the footballers of this country. once yuh have a poor attitude and poor work ethic towards the game clubs will know, because of this forum.[/u]
back to matters of importance............freakazoid is a very versatile player he can play anyway on the right side and can even stand between the uprights, if strongly persuaded.belives in 1 man 2 1 woman so the tabloids will never have stories or pictures of him that can be damaging to a clubs rep
Allyuh men real dread...
I understand freedom of speech but i was just surprised at the volume of replies here saying that it too hard to NOT criticise the socawarriors that we all love, wish the best for and hope would improve tthe state of our football.
Is not dat we eh happy we arrive but arrive where? We is a banana republic so an agent could tell we what 2 say in a cyber rum shop.
Not dat we cyah not criticise but please what kind ah horse and pony show dem clubs runnin dat dey takin we opinion on d MB instead of linkin 2 d site where d they have school and info bout Jamal Gay there lots of it.
the crux of the matter ???Allyuh men real dread...Is not dat we eh happy we arrive but arrive where? We is a banana republic so an agent could tell we what 2 say in a cyber rum shop.
I understand freedom of speech but i was just surprised at the volume of replies here saying that it too hard to NOT criticise the socawarriors that we all love, wish the best for and hope would improve tthe state of our football.
some could cry to Flex and Palos and E-Man and Tallman in dis cyber rum shop doh.:devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl:
haul allyuh modder arse and do like me go on ah f**king diet
BS...with a capital "S"
There are message boards all over the internet with much harsher comments than those expressed here. If you want to start censoring the comments we might as well shut this entire site down. Last I checked this is a "discussion forum" and it would lose all credibility if all posts were unjustifiably positive.
How about getting some game film and recommendations, hell even hire a private investigator if you want to do a background check.
Sorry if you feel some responsibility for a player not getting a contract, but the truth of the matter is, if he has a good enough trial, he'll get picked up. No amount pecong and ole talk would change that. And if d man doin sh*t, i.e. he has a poor work ethic or questionable character, he'll be found out eventually and this would have a much worse effect on all Trini players.
How dese foreign scounts even understand half d tings we'z be sayin anywayz?
And for kiffysmooth, "big money" is relative. And speaking truthfully or speaking your mind is only "assness" if you're a communist.
well, well, im gunna start posting things solely to improve our young and upcoming (hardest) players,
for instance, not only is Jamal Gay an excellent player, but he also bakes delicious cookies.
Take that jittery scouts!
Filho u know the funny thing ....You is never say a bad word or diss anybody lol
if its a major issue then tighter moderation is needed........
You guys taking this to far..... and making it out to be bigger than it really is...
If you were Jamal's agent and we are good friends and you ask me to do you a LITTLE favor just this one time then I see no problem with it as I will do it for anyone here if they were in that position....
We may not agree all the time, but I try to be simply and cool with everyone.....
Feel free to continue posting as you please, none of you dogged Jamal and I see no problem with anyone of you guys post....
I will speak with Heather today and explain to her. I also do not see a problem keeping (some stuff) low a bit, as she assured me the club did read the forum. And I doubt they will make a decision on what we say here. But a little good stuff will not hurt.
if its a major issue then tighter moderation is needed........
You had to be ah syphilis, beat out, slack, crab louse infected c__t to say something like that.
You guys taking this to far..... and making it out to be bigger than it really is...
If you were Jamal's agent and we are good friends and you ask me to do you a LITTLE favor just this one time then I see no problem with it as I will do it for anyone here if they were in that position....
We may not agree all the time, but I try to be simply and cool with everyone.....
Feel free to continue posting as you please, none of you dogged Jamal and I see no problem with anyone of you guys post....
I will speak with Heather today and explain to her. I also do not see a problem keeping (some stuff) low a bit, as she assured me the club did read the forum. And I doubt they will make a decision on what we say here. But a little good stuff will not hurt.
Hopefully it will blow over in 24 Hours ;D ;Dif its a major issue then tighter moderation is needed........
You had to be ah syphilis, beat out, slack, crab louse infected c__t to say something like that.
Great, now Jack TV contract not going and get renewed...
Ah boy...it is because of me certain man reach world cup and others cyar even get a trial.I can just imagine it now
For a mere 1% of your earnings I shall put you on to the path of riches and opportunity.
:devil:
Ah boy...it is because of me certain man reach world cup and others cyar even get a trial.
For a mere 1% of your earnings I shall put you on to the path of riches and opportunity.
:devil:
Ah boy...it is because of me certain man reach world cup and others cyar even get a trial.
For a mere 1% of your earnings I shall put you on to the path of riches and opportunity.
:devil:
1%???? 1% is nothing if the site reach where it going. If you reach that far that your posts cause man to lose or gain contract then you could be the man agent instead of his errr... real agent. Take a 25% and post away. :rotfl: :rotfl: Better yet, mebbe the site should be earning royalties or referral fees from players and agents. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Ah boy...it is because of me certain man reach world cup and others cyar even get a trial.
For a mere 1% of your earnings I shall put you on to the path of riches and opportunity.
:devil:
Yo TI, give up on that Jemmott thing boss, yuh jocking ah dead prick.
...All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial.
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
Fellas...
Look the line that sunk Hardest Career and after reading this all scouts and possible deals fell through.
Quote from: Sam on August 13, 2008, 05:36:46 PMQuoteYo TI, give up on that Jemmott thing boss, yuh jocking ah dead prick.
:rotfl:
ClarificationHi ,good job ,your doing with the guys in Europe ......But don"t worry about the Coaches I cant support you there we will represent the Coaches .Thats is C.O.B.O.S job.
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
It may not be unprofessional this seems to be a new approach at finding out how the players are in their comfort zone after they've stopped "acting their best" to gain a contract. In fact it may be a little personality trait that a two men at a club may be disputing and one man might suggest they find a forum where the locals talk about the player to see if it was mentioned. Remember clubs don't want to make bad investments this is just an innovative way of doing so, it may form let's say 5% of the decision but if they thought the man was iffy in the first place it's a big 5%
Anybody in HR here? with the hundreds of resumes in an office with everybody qualified doesn't it come down to what personal qualities you can discern on the interview? However saying it's the sole basis for selection is rubbish, no need to go overboard and suggest man might pick a coach from a web page.
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
It may not be unprofessional this seems to be a new approach at finding out how the players are in their comfort zone after they've stopped "acting their best" to gain a contract. In fact it may be a little personality trait that a two men at a club may be disputing and one man might suggest they find a forum where the locals talk about the player to see if it was mentioned. Remember clubs don't want to make bad investments this is just an innovative way of doing so, it may form let's say 5% of the decision but if they thought the man was iffy in the first place it's a big 5%
Anybody in HR here? with the hundreds of resumes in an office with everybody qualified doesn't it come down to what personal qualities you can discern on the interview? However saying it's the sole basis for selection is rubbish, no need to go overboard and suggest man might pick a coach from a web page.
Agreed. As strange as it seems many business entities (not just professional football clubs) check public forums/personal webpages for additional info about prospective employees.
To draw an analogy, the other day, my boss at work admitted that she viewed an applicant's facebook profile to get an idea of the type of individual he is. While facebook may or may not be the same as a public football supporters website, it clearly demonstrates a recent trend in hiring practices.
Agreed. As strange as it seems many business entities (not just professional football clubs) check public forums/personal webpages for additional info about prospective employees.
To draw an analogy, the other day, my boss at work admitted that she viewed an applicant's facebook profile to get an idea of the type of individual he is. While facebook may or may not be the same as a public football supporters website, it clearly demonstrates a recent trend in hiring practices.
Agreed. As strange as it seems many business entities (not just professional football clubs) check public forums/personal webpages for additional info about prospective employees.
To draw an analogy, the other day, my boss at work admitted that she viewed an applicant's facebook profile to get an idea of the type of individual he is. While facebook may or may not be the same as a public football supporters website, it clearly demonstrates a recent trend in hiring practices.
What trend is that... and how does it apply to this situation, pray tell? Any other examples of these "many business entities" who check public forums for info on prospective employees?
Filho, I dunno why these men insist on trying to compare the two when they're clearly not even remotely the same.
well said there Filhodoh know nah. i actually pulled my post before I saw your response so sorry it look like you call me name out of the blue. but the facebook analogy is poor. how can you compare a profile that the candidate actually created themselves, and a fan message board where the player has no input...i dunnoAgreed. As strange as it seems many business entities (not just professional football clubs) check public forums/personal webpages for additional info about prospective employees.What trend is that... and how does it apply to this situation, pray tell? Any other examples of these "many business entities" who check public forums for info on prospective employees?
To draw an analogy, the other day, my boss at work admitted that she viewed an applicant's facebook profile to get an idea of the type of individual he is. While facebook may or may not be the same as a public football supporters website, it clearly demonstrates a recent trend in hiring practices.
Filho, I dunno why these men insist on trying to compare the two when they're clearly not even remotely the same.
In other words. YOU ALL ARE F***ING WITH Ms Mckenzie money. If the players don't get a contract she cant make money ;D allyuh doh ms with the woman money.understandable, eh :D
In other words. YOU ALL ARE F***ING WITH Ms Mckenzie money. If the players don't get a contract she cant make money ;D allyuh doh ms with the woman money.ent ;D
nah nah :devil:In other words. YOU ALL ARE F***ING WITH Ms Mckenzie money. If the players don't get a contract she cant make money ;D allyuh doh ms with the woman money.ent ;D
I think she used to secretly post as TI ;)
nah nah :devil:In other words. YOU ALL ARE F***ING WITH Ms Mckenzie money. If the players don't get a contract she cant make money ;D allyuh doh ms with the woman money.ent ;D
I think she used to secretly post as TI ;)
oh shit man :devil:
so hold on...all those who was cussin and carryin on for 4 whole pages....now everyone change dey tune? Did Ms MacKenzie say something that Flex didn't? :rotfl: :rotfl:
Trinis are indeed a special breed. lol If i go back and count the negative replies prior to the Hm posting i am sure before this thread reaches the end of its significance 99.9 % ah allyuh will have changed allyuh tune.
No integrity, cajones, or common sense.
Just kiss ass and fawing. Steups.
I dont have an serious opinion on the topic of this thread, but my word. I wouldnt trust most ah allyuh with a shilling nah!!!
Though i use to pound Ti going n coming and we had our disagreements, one thign i go give the man...he more or less have integrity. He didnt run with the tide with hardest, de man believed in him till the bitter end.
Someone's opinion or belief may change, but that change must be earned for it to mean something.
I will just sit back and fetch real kicks as usual, cause i know in hear allyuh is just a bunch of talkers anyways doh ever really do nuttin, and this present topic/thread/situation just verifies that.
thats why whether scouts come in here or not, the fact that they gives much ear to anythign being said stuns me..goes to show, for good or bad.......few other people on the planet could truly understand what it means to be a trini
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
What trend is that... and how does it apply to this situation, pray tell? Any other examples of these "many business entities" who check public forums for info on prospective employees?
Filho, I dunno why these men insist on trying to compare the two when they're clearly not even remotely the same.
doh know nah. i actually pulled my post before I saw your response so sorry it look like you call me name out of the blue. but the facebook analogy is poor. how can you compare a profile that the candidate actually created themselves, and a fan message board where the player has no input...i dunno
Trinis are indeed a special breed. lol If i go back and count the negative replies prior to the Hm posting i am sure before this thread reaches the end of its significance 99.9 % ah allyuh will have changed allyuh tune.
No integrity, cajones, or common sense.
Just kiss ass and fawing. Steups.
I dont have an serious opinion on the topic of this thread, but my word. I wouldnt trust most ah allyuh with a shilling nah!!!
Though i use to pound Ti going n coming and we had our disagreements, one thign i go give the man...he more or less have integrity. He didnt run with the tide with hardest, de man believed in him till the bitter end.
Someone's opinion or belief may change, but that change must be earned for it to mean something.
I will just sit back and fetch real kicks as usual, cause i know in hear allyuh is just a bunch of talkers anyways doh ever really do nuttin, and this present topic/thread/situation just verifies that.
thats why whether scouts come in here or not, the fact that they gives much ear to anythign being said stuns me..goes to show, for good or bad.......few other people on the planet could truly understand what it means to be a trini
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
I don't think that people are directly comparing the two (as in to say that they are the same). I think people were responding to the contention that a message board should or should not be a place where professional organizations receive info about an individual because of the credibility of the info posted on this site, and the mere fact that potential misinterpretation looms heavy over words and images posted on unofficial webpages...and saying that it's arguable that neither should facebook or myspace or whatever be used for such purposes, yet such sites are still used by professional organizations to make character assessments of employment candidates...
While people do have alot more control over what their facebook profiles contain, your facebook friends can still make off-colour comments about your photos, photoshop your pics in joke or gest, post unprofessional or inappropriate messages and images on your wall...etc... and even without that, a person's sense of humor could manifest itself in a way that could easily be misinterpreted by a potential employer.... all of which could compromise your public image (or the image that you wish to have others be made privy to)...or at the least cause one to fall victim to "discrimination by association".. Many people do not diligently monitor their facebook profiles, or may not be saavy enough with the tool to define privacy settings or to protect themselves from falling victim or to viruses or spamming applications that can sabotage a profile..
So agreed- a site like facebook would more likely give a better impression than sw.net of an individual's character so the analogy is not the best- but I think it is still somewhat relevant and in this context the two scenarios are comparable in the sense that both this forum, and sites like facebook have the power to invade privacy or at the least leave an individual vulnerable to sensitive content which is subject to (fair or unfair) interpretation.
Trinis are indeed a special breed. lol If i go back and count the negative replies prior to the Hm posting i am sure before this thread reaches the end of its significance 99.9 % ah allyuh will have changed allyuh tune.
No integrity, cajones, or common sense.
Just kiss ass and fawing. Steups.
I dont have an serious opinion on the topic of this thread, but my word. I wouldnt trust most ah allyuh with a shilling nah!!!
Though i use to pound Ti going n coming and we had our disagreements, one thign i go give the man...he more or less have integrity. He didnt run with the tide with hardest, de man believed in him till the bitter end.
Someone's opinion or belief may change, but that change must be earned for it to mean something.
I will just sit back and fetch real kicks as usual, cause i know in hear allyuh is just a bunch of talkers anyways doh ever really do nuttin, and this present topic/thread/situation just verifies that.
thats why whether scouts come in here or not, the fact that they gives much ear to anythign being said stuns me..goes to show, for good or bad.......few other people on the planet could truly understand what it means to be a trini
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
organic..yuh talking level toots. you come to that conclusion from the grand total of 4 posts that can be construed as in favor with the request after the 'clarification' message. how many of those are a change of tune post. i bet you can't call one. yuh jess talking out your ass. and doh make general statements about posters here only talking and not doing. dat is just plain wrong and direspectful. is a forum..most of it go be just talk. but yuh doh have a clue about some of the posters here. pure dunce post
Trinis are indeed a special breed. lol If i go back and count the negative replies prior to the Hm posting i am sure before this thread reaches the end of its significance 99.9 % ah allyuh will have changed allyuh tune.
No integrity, cajones, or common sense.
Just kiss ass and fawing. Steups.
I dont have an serious opinion on the topic of this thread, but my word. I wouldnt trust most ah allyuh with a shilling nah!!!
Though i use to pound Ti going n coming and we had our disagreements, one thign i go give the man...he more or less have integrity. He didnt run with the tide with hardest, de man believed in him till the bitter end.
Someone's opinion or belief may change, but that change must be earned for it to mean something.
I will just sit back and fetch real kicks as usual, cause i know in hear allyuh is just a bunch of talkers anyways doh ever really do nuttin, and this present topic/thread/situation just verifies that.
thats why whether scouts come in here or not, the fact that they gives much ear to anythign being said stuns me..goes to show, for good or bad.......few other people on the planet could truly understand what it means to be a trini
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
organic..yuh talking level toots. you come to that conclusion from the grand total of 4 posts that can be construed as in favor with the request after the 'clarification' message. how many of those are a change of tune post. i bet you can't call one. yuh jess talking out your ass. and doh make general statements about posters here only talking and not doing. dat is just plain wrong and direspectful. is a forum..most of it go be just talk. but yuh doh have a clue about some of the posters here. pure dunce post
if u say so breds.. i not arguing ,and i also said before the thread finsihed i made sure and ssay that..just cause i know some ah allyuh will tote feelings on time.
lol@ worng and disrespectful..in this place that is a big joke. and i do know quite a few posters in here personally. at any rate ....your have your opinion i have mine.
bless up.
but doh tote feelings bro!!
This amounts to a whole lot of rationalizing after the fact... and as a matter of fact, much of it isn't on point. While friends can make off-color comments and post unflattering pictures to a Facebook member's profile... that member STILL has the ability to control the content on their profile by deleting any such photos, comments etc. in fact, one can lock down one's profile so that recruiters don't access information on their profile... one can even control which among your friends can post to your profile and who among them can access your photos. Needless to say, one always has the option of masking one's identity so that even if the profile is accessed the identity cannot be established.
Did you even read my post? I addressed all of that. Look at where I spoke of people's failure to adjust privacy settings and people's failure to monitor their profile diligently- I began by saying that ppl have alot more control over their facebook profiles but some don't exercise that control to the fullest, and are hence left vulnerable to an invasion of privacy just as they would on a public message board...Are you even responding to me?
There simply is no such measure of control over the content of sites such as this where anonymous nobodies (as I like to call them) can pluck whatever they like from their collective stream of consciousness and share with the rest of cyberspace. While some of that may be slanderous or defamatory, it hardly constitutes the breach of privacy that you peg it to be.
I also don't know how you can say that people weren't making a direct comparison between the two media when in fact that is precisely what was done time and time again. No they didn't say they were the same... but there are other ways to make a direct comparison between two things than to say that they are identical in character and make up. You yourself say that the "the analogy is not the best"... how could you make that assessment, calling it an analogy if the comparison wasn't directly made between the two in the first place? An analogy cannot be drawn without there being a direct comparison.
WTF ?!?! Yuh talkin' some high grade sh*t here. The comparison often used in this thread was indirect i.e. Facebook is used by potential employers as this forum can be used by certain football scouts i.e. indirect (not comparing the two forms of media themselves, but drawing a parallel between how they can be used by employers)....In other words A is to B, what C is to D = indirect comparison...how else can I say it?
Filho's post said "how can you compare a profile that the candidate actually created themselves, and a fan message board where the player has no input...i dunno" - that implies a direct comparison (comparing the two forms of media- as opposed to comparing how the two forms of media can be used by employers) That is what I was addressing.
An analogy is parallel drawn between two things by identifying similarities within a given context...whether the comparison is direct or indirect is irrelevant...you like you just talking for talking sake because you're not addressing what I said, and in the process not making full sense either
I said the analogy is not the best agreeing with you & filho, but I can see how the comparison is relevant. You're searching for an argument that isn't even there- Like I said- What you're saying does not address my post
Rather than go on any further we ought to just put the silly comparison, direct or not to rest. Even if we disagree with employers using Facebook to gauge the content of a person's character... the information upon which that judgment is made is controlled by ONE person, the owner of the account. There is no measure of control that any of us, certainly not the subjects of conversation... can take to limit what's being said about us. Short of the moderators getting involved we are at the mercy of the discretion of random, anonymous posters on this forum. The Facebook analogy fails and should be put to rest.
so what does happen to footballers who have Facebook pages?
dem in double trouble if Facebook tell one story and SW.net tell another story?
Didn't it have some footballer who didn't get a phonecall, didn't get a text message ..... but get a Facebook Instant Message that he did get drop? ... and then post it as his status update?
Well what makes something really organic eh Filho not toots .Trinis are indeed a special breed. lol If i go back and count the negative replies prior to the Hm posting i am sure before this thread reaches the end of its significance 99.9 % ah allyuh will have changed allyuh tune.
No integrity, cajones, or common sense.
Just kiss ass and fawing. Steups.
I dont have an serious opinion on the topic of this thread, but my word. I wouldnt trust most ah allyuh with a shilling nah!!!
Though i use to pound Ti going n coming and we had our disagreements, one thign i go give the man...he more or less have integrity. He didnt run with the tide with hardest, de man believed in him till the bitter end.
Someone's opinion or belief may change, but that change must be earned for it to mean something.
I will just sit back and fetch real kicks as usual, cause i know in hear allyuh is just a bunch of talkers anyways doh ever really do nuttin, and this present topic/thread/situation just verifies that.
thats why whether scouts come in here or not, the fact that they gives much ear to anythign being said stuns me..goes to show, for good or bad.......few other people on the planet could truly understand what it means to be a trini
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
organic..yuh talking level toots. you come to that conclusion from the grand total of 4 posts that can be construed as in favor with the request after the 'clarification' message. how many of those are a change of tune post. i bet you can't call one. yuh jess talking out your ass. and doh make general statements about posters here only talking and not doing. dat is just plain wrong and direspectful. is a forum..most of it go be just talk. but yuh doh have a clue about some of the posters here. pure dunce post
if u say so breds.. i not arguing ,and i also said before the thread finsihed i made sure and ssay that..just cause i know some ah allyuh will tote feelings on time.
lol@ worng and disrespectful..in this place that is a big joke. and i do know quite a few posters in here personally. at any rate ....your have your opinion i have mine.
bless up.
but doh tote feelings bro!!
no scene. i doh take anything on here personally. i jess find yuh talk toots. no feelings behind it.
so it go
Well what makes something really organic eh Filho not toots .
organic..yuh talking level toots. you come to that conclusion from the grand total of 4 posts that can be construed as in favor with the request after the 'clarification' message. how many of those are a change of tune post. i bet you can't call one. yuh jess talking out your ass. and doh make general statements about posters here only talking and not doing. dat is just plain wrong and direspectful. is a forum..most of it go be just talk. but yuh doh have a clue about some of the posters here. pure dunce post
if u say so breds.. i not arguing ,and i also said before the thread finsihed i made sure and ssay that..just cause i know some ah allyuh will tote feelings on time.
lol@ worng and disrespectful..in this place that is a big joke. and i do know quite a few posters in here personally. at any rate ....your have your opinion i have mine.
bless up.
but doh tote feelings bro!!
no scene. i doh take anything on here personally. i jess find yuh talk toots. no feelings behind it.
so it go
press L1 for defense ,press L2 for stone Armour defense .
Did you even read my post? I addressed all of that. Look at where I spoke of people's failure to adjust privacy settings and people's failure to monitor their profile diligently Are you even responding to me?
Considering how I methodically responded to your post, dissecting it non-point by non-point... I can only chalk up this line of questioning to an inability to read... or lack of acknowledgment of the relevance. Either way, take your pick.
WTF ?!?! Yuh talkin' some high grade sh*t here. The comparison often used in this thread was indirect i.e. Facebook is used by potential employers as this forum can be used by certain football scouts i.e. indirect (not comparing the two forms of media themselves, but drawing a parallel between how they can be used by employers)....In other words A is to B, what C is to D = indirect comparison...how else can I say it?
You can say it however you feel it would make the most sense to you... as I see it, and I'm sure there are others, the comparison was direct. Phenomenon A happens on Facebook, so it isn't beyond the pale to think that phenomenon A to also happen on SW.net. Was there a one-to-one comparison of the technology behind both sites? No. But such isn't the only way to make a direct comparison between the two... unless one wants to deliberate construe the comparison narrowly. You made an argument about the relative "privacy" issues inherent to both sites... others compared how both sites can factor in impugning people's characters. I call it a direct comparison you insist it's indirect... six on one hand, half a dozen on the other. But if you're convinced that your argument is substantive then that is your right. Personally, I don't care that much to be splitting hairs with you.
Filho's post said "how can you compare a profile that the candidate actually created themselves, and a fan message board where the player has no input...i dunno" - that implies a direct comparison (comparing the two forms of media- as opposed to comparing how the two forms of media can be used by employers) That is what I was addressing.
An analogy is parallel drawn between two things by identifying similarities within a given context...whether the comparison is direct or indirect is irrelevant...you like you just talking for talking sake because you're not addressing what I said, and in the process not making full sense either
Again, see above.
I said the analogy is not the best agreeing with you & filho, but I can see how the comparison is relevant. You're searching for an argument that isn't even there- Like I said- What you're saying does not address my post
You really flatter yourself to think that I'd go out of my way to seek out an argument with you. I respond to you as I would to anyone else when I disagree with something posted. I get enough of argument in my real life that I don't need to come here "searching for an argument" with you or anyone else and my motivation for posting is nowhere as trivial as you'd like to paint it. You say that you don't see the relevance of my response to your post... well I can't help you see it, it is what it is.
I think if you re-read my post, you will see that you didn't address anything I said. Like I said, an analogy as I know is a parallel between two things which on the surface appear different, but in a given context have similarities. I mentioned where the two forms of media appear different (which you regurgitated for whatever reason) and then mentioned some potential similarities in the given context...and gave my opinion as to how I can see the analogy (as weak as it may be- even that I said) being relevant. simple. :-\
You gave some nebulous disclaimer about people not adjusting privacy settings then sought to contradict your non-point by making the same inane characterization that others tried to make, that employers coud legitimately use information from both sites to help cull information about prospects. What you fail to acknowledge is that the self-same privacy settings you mention is the fulcrum of the argument. Privacy controls are in place in one medium (Facebook), and aren't as effective/available in the other (SW.net). This renders the comparison void. Any information found on Facebook is ultimately the responsibility of the profile owner, because they have the ability to control that. I'm not about to continuing pointing out how fundamentally different the situation is for a footballer to control what you or anyone else say about them.
This is how I drew the analogy: the two scenarios are comparable in the sense that both this forum, and sites like facebook have the power to invade privacy or at the least leave an individual vulnerable to sensitive content which is subject to (fair or unfair) interpretation. ....
Show me where you address that.
so what does happen to footballers who have Facebook pages?
dem in double trouble if Facebook tell one story and SW.net tell another story?
Didn't it have some footballer who didn't get a phonecall, didn't get a text message ..... but get a Facebook Instant Message that he did get drop? ... and then post it as his status update?
Who's that? That cyah be Jason Scotland
The sum of my response addressed it, you just refuse to acknowledge the point. Facebook can leave you vulnerable as you term it... only if you yourself (by your own negligence) create that vulnerability... therefore it's a false comparison to liken it to SW.net where even the most stringent of precautions still leaves you vulnerable to slander.
If I shoot myself in the head, or you shoot me in the head the threat to my life is the same. The comparison seems on point until one stops to contemplate the source of the threat. Surely one can see the fallacy in falsely comparing a condition created by one's own hands and countenancing it as the same as a condition created by another. One threat can easily be negated, the other more problematically so. One you can control, the other you can't... a fundamental dissimilarity.
... but this is where I get off this circular track.
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
And de congregation say Amen Mango Chow!!....I feel we being made scapegoats for something that is more deep seated and/or fundamental than this forum........WE HAVE A WINNING POST ;)
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
Heather doh mind dem kissmeh-ass kiss-ass and dem who wearin' apron and dustin' off yuh boots wit dey tongue eh. If I could offer yuh some chupid advice here, look...take it: Take your fight to the Honorable Jack Warner ( :-[ ah cyah believe I actually use cyapital letters fuh dis man name!) Lincoln Philips, Oliver Camps and the stellar organization that is the TTFF. Tell dem that yuh having a hard time selling exceptionally talented but underweight players with marginal skill development to the top flighted football teams around the world. Tell dem that teams are wary of signing players that have sssssssso much natural born ability but lack the foundational and structural growth that would make them an easy pick for most team managers. Tell demweour football federation needs to teach we players about passin', trappin', shootin', tactics, NUTRITION and GOALKEEPIN' to the level that would make YOUR job easier, our nation more successful, the fans happier (which would then have a direct effect on all the shit-talk, of course) and, inherently, their pockets much, much fatter. Dat shouldn't be a hard sell dat to jackula and dem, and see how fast dem teams fuhget bout "dubya-dubya-dubya-dot-socawarriors-dot-whatever!"
P.S. I hope your 1-post association with the site now neither harms your signings of prospective clients nor hinders your current negotiations.
Pure tata! If professional clubs reading a forum and making decisions on signing a player/ How unprofessional is that!
And de congregation say Amen Mango Chow!!....I feel we being made scapegoats for something that is more deep seated and/or fundamental than this forum........
And de congregation say Amen Mango Chow!!....I feel we being made scapegoats for something that is more deep seated and/or fundamental than this forum........WE HAVE A WINNING POST ;)
Mango...is "Triple Dubya" ya say there ;D
If the football universe could allow joey barton to continue playing football then what de hell anybody on this forum could say to hinder a prospect that his/her own shortcomings wouldn't hinder on their own?
Clarification
This is the first time I have posted on this forum and do not think it is appropriate for me to regularly do so or engage in a lengthy debate. I would just like to clarify my position. I regret not posting directly or saying anything for that matter. I believe I was misunderstood. I have never met Flex and was not asking a personal favor, but rather as a friend of Trinidad football asked him to remind members that this is a public forum. I appreciate the forum and the passion of its members. In the registration agreement members are asked to refrain from posting anything that is hateful or defamatory. Truth is always a defense to defamation. I think that members on this forum are often unduly critical and harsh toward players and coaches that are already under a tremendous amount of pressure. At the same time, as an attorney I fully appreciate the right to freedom of speech. I may disagree with some members as to what constitutes hateful speech. All I ask is that members refrain from speculation and negative comments that maybe untrue or irrelevant. The pressure on all professional athletes is tremendous and they must accept the negative press and blogging that comes with it, as must I. As all of you know, it is extremely difficult to get trials and contracts and the period when players are on trial is extremely sensitive. I think that SocaWarriors is one source of information which cannot be ignored but must be put in context. I am asking for no special treatment for myself or for players I represent. All I meant to say is that fans of Trinidad football consider the consequences of speculation on this forum as it may impact ALL players ability to go on trial. I regret any misunderstanding on this and I am willing to take the criticism as it comes, I would just respectfully request that we all appreciate that as a public forum the comments hereon are read worldwide.
Respectfully,
Heather MacKenzie
MLF Sports
PS MLF stands for MacKenzie Law Firm
Heather doh mind dem kissmeh-ass kiss-ass and dem who wearin' apron and dustin' off yuh boots wit dey tongue eh. If I could offer yuh some chupid advice here, look...take it: Take your fight to the Honorable Jack Warner ( :-[ ah cyah believe I actually use cyapital letters fuh dis man name!) Lincoln Philips, Oliver Camps and the stellar organization that is the TTFF. Tell dem that yuh having a hard time selling exceptionally talented but underweight players with marginal skill development to the top flighted football teams around the world. Tell dem that teams are wary of signing players that have sssssssso much natural born ability but lack the foundational and structural growth that would make them an easy pick for most team managers. Tell demweour football federation needs to teach we players about passin', trappin', shootin', tactics, NUTRITION and GOALKEEPIN' to the level that would make YOUR job easier, our nation more successful, the fans happier (which would then have a direct effect on all the shit-talk, of course) and, inherently, their pockets much, much fatter. Dat shouldn't be a hard sell dat to jackula and dem, and see how fast dem teams fuhget bout "dubya-dubya-dubya-dot-socawarriors-dot-whatever!"
P.S. I hope your 1-post association with the site now neither harms your signings of prospective clients nor hinders your current negotiations.
And de congregation say Amen Mango Chow!!....I feel we being made scapegoats for something that is more deep seated and/or fundamental than this forum........
Good post mango.very well said there meh Lady
I can see it now, if T&T don't make it to the WC is there going to be a press conference by the MLF represented players saying that their confidence was lost, shot, torn to pieces because of the cruel heartless comments made by the posters at this Socawarriors.net? You can tell that MFL has represented T&T players for a Long time because they have adopted a trini mentality which is to blame everybody else for failures but themselves. Welcome to the big leagues players. If you are out there in public, people will scrutanise your every move and they will post about it. Get used to it.
Dey eh on we again d checkin facebook so if anyting go wrong wit number 14 in d future in eh go b we fault.
How come when you google socawarriors.net and then click on MAPS the Mackenzie Law Firm shows up ?
If the football universe could allow joey barton to continue playing football then what de hell anybody on this forum could say to hinder a prospect that his/her own shortcomings wouldn't hinder on their own?
lol true
How come when you google socawarriors.net and then click on MAPS the Mackenzie Law Firm shows up ?
How come when you google socawarriors.net and then click on MAPS the Mackenzie Law Firm shows up ?