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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #90 on: March 14, 2009, 04:36:14 PM »
U fans, this defeat may indeed be a good thing for United. I just shows that on a given day with two sides being equal the results you want may not come your way. I rather Liverpool beat us than say a bottom of the table team. 'Pool was the better team today. It is just a fact. They brought us back to earth today. Accept it boo fans and stop crying like babies. Let's move on to the next game.

Worst day possible... there is never a time when a loss against Liverpool is anything but devastating. Liverpool...sigh...

Anyway after Fergie chews a few men a new one, it make for a more focused run-in. What was he thinking leaving Anderson on for so long?
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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #91 on: March 14, 2009, 10:15:20 PM »
I wonder how much Fergie selling that snake oil for? Regardless of price, it have a good market for that here.

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'United were better' claims Ferguson after Liverpool hammering


The Liverpool manager has heard it many times before but this time the chant of "Rafa's cracking up" must have been music to his ears.

It came from the Liverpool supporters, not the Stretford End, its irony marking a first win at Old Trafford under Benítez and another four goals to complete a momentous week. Real Madrid may have been poor at Anfield on Tuesday but these were the champions of Europe, on their own turf, chasing a club record 12th successive league win. Apart from a few minutes in the first half, when Manchester United led through a penalty and their fans briefly had the opportunity to remind Benítez of his alleged resemblance to a fat Spanish waiter, this was a surprisingly one-sided encounter and only one manager looked as though he was enjoying his work.

It was the other one, neatly enough, who sounded as though he might be cracking up. "I thought we were the better team," Sir Alex Ferguson said, making a bid for the wackiest statement of the season. "But the score doesn't reflect that."

The table still does, though United's lead is down to four points and their goal difference cut to five. With a game in hand over Liverpool this may not amount to a turning point, yet results of this magnitude can boost the confidence of winners and eat away at the losers' self-belief. "We are in a better position now, that's all you can say," Benítez said. "If we are going to win the title we are going to need three points from every game and United to drop some more. So it might not happen, but at least we have more confidence."

He can say that again. Confidence oozed through Liverpool from the start, flowing directly from Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres. The pair were conspicuously head and shoulders above every­one else on the pitch, closely involved in the important goals, and it was tempting to sympathise with Benítez when he bemoaned the fact that this was only the ninth league game of the season they have started together. Perhaps United are not quite as outstanding as everyone has been saying, and Liverpool might be pushing them much closer but for injuries.

With due respect to Ferguson, that was the way it looked here. Nemanja Vidic has been touted as a contender for player of the season but reacted to Torres in the manner of Superman exposed to green kryptonite. The defender was comprehensively beaten for the first Liverpool goal, when he made the mistake of allowing Martin Skrtel's long clearance to bounce and completely underestimated Torres's pace and determination. He almost gave away a penalty on the same player minutes later and completed a miserable afternoon by seeing red for a professional foul on ­Gerrard 15 minutes from time.

Everything looked fairly straightforward for United when they were awarded a penalty after 22 minutes, exactly the sort of thing Benítez might note in his next dossier, though while Park Ji-sung was not exactly carrying the ball goalwards there was no doubt Pepe Reina made ­contact to bring him down. Cristiano Ronaldo stuck away the spot-kick to give United the lead, then promptly returned to ineffective obscurity along with Carlos Tevez and Anderson. Wayne Rooney spent most of the first half gesticulating furiously at his colleagues, though in reality he was not much better. Though always hungry for the ball he rarely used it well and, with the experience of Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Dimitar Berbatov all kept in reserve until the 72nd minute, United found themselves outfought in midfield.

For all that Liverpool's equaliser came out of nothing, Torres taking advantage of momentary United indecision as only he can, significantly he turned provider just before the interval when his measured pass for Gerrard tempted Patrice Evra to take the player instead of the ball and concede a rare home penalty. Gerrard scored it and planted a kiss on a cameraman's lens by way of celebration, clearly not expecting his afternoon to get even better.

All Liverpool needed do was hang on to their lead. The closest United came to scoring in the second half was through a couple of Reina handling mistakes. Yet the home side were so ragged in midfield and nervous in defence they virtually invited their opponents to push for more, and once Vidic had been dismissed for hauling down Gerrard they needed no further asking. Ferguson had just sent on all his three substitutes together but watched powerlessly with them as Fábio Aurélio scored direct from the free-kick. Before Andrea Dossena wrapped things up in the final minute by chipping Edwin van der Sar straight from a Reina clearance, Gerrard missed the easiest chance of the afternoon when he skied into the Stretford End.

It could easily have been five or even six, and if the comprehensiveness of the rout escaped Ferguson, the home fans who left the stadium barely half full by the end seemed to have got the message loud and clear. Those that remained attempted to taunt Liverpool with chants that they would finish the season empty-handed, though that can no longer be taken for granted. While the league remains a big ask, Liverpool will feed off this famous win should the sides' paths cross again in Europe.



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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #92 on: March 14, 2009, 11:19:32 PM »
That last goal VDS was absolutely shocking.
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« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2009, 11:21:03 PM »
That last goal VDS was absolutely shocking.

Last TWO goals...

Somebody check Van Der Sar's boots for cement.


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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #94 on: March 14, 2009, 11:24:11 PM »
That last goal VDS was absolutely shocking.

the only thing I could think of as I watch that about 3 million times today was in keeping with the constant "waiter" theme was: you got served.

hahahahaaaaaahahaha.

yuh coulda swear Liverpool was playing some sh!t side like Sunderland  ;D ... but not even Sunderland hold 4 - at home to boot!! hahahahaaaa
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« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2009, 11:29:59 PM »
On the last goal, he see the ball gonna beat the defense and will bounce where he can't get it and remain rooted in no mans' land. Same thing for Torres goal.
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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2009, 12:48:16 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....
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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2009, 07:08:11 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

yeah, but Tevez tell him to dive in the wrong direction anyway.
Lately, Man U tactics for penalties and trying to circumvent the rules becoming obvious.

First it was Foster using an iPod to watch video of Tottenham players kicking penalties.
Now is Tevez lining up behind the kicker to signal to the keeper what direction to go.

Didn't matter though. Goal in dey asshole!!! hahahaaaaaa
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« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2009, 07:58:39 AM »
yuh coulda swear Liverpool was playing some sh!t side like Sunderland  ;D ... but not even Sunderland hold 4 - at home to boot!! hahahahaaaa
aye
jez cause Sunderland is 14th doh make dem ah shit side eh :devil:
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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2009, 08:03:41 AM »
yuh coulda swear Liverpool was playing some sh!t side like Sunderland  ;D ... but not even Sunderland hold 4 - at home to boot!! hahahahaaaa
aye
jez cause Sunderland is 14th doh make dem ah shit side eh :devil:

14th and 3 points out of relegation. lol.
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« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2009, 08:09:28 AM »
yuh coulda swear Liverpool was playing some sh!t side like Sunderland  ;D ... but not even Sunderland hold 4 - at home to boot!! hahahahaaaa
aye
jez cause Sunderland is 14th doh make dem ah shit side eh :devil:

14th and 3 points out of relegation. lol.
yeah that basement crowded
5 pts seperate 5 teams out of the relegation zone
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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2009, 08:21:52 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

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Re: Manchester United V Liverpool.
« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2009, 09:11:11 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

Like Reina almost save CRonaldo penalty ... without the "aid" of someone to tell him where center was.

Maybe what VDS needed was someone to tell him where the goal line was, cuz he get a yellow card for not being able to stay on it.
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« Reply #103 on: March 15, 2009, 09:16:44 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

Like Reina almost save CRonaldo penalty ... without the "aid" of someone to tell him where center was.

Maybe what VDS needed was someone to tell him where the goal line was, cuz he get a yellow card for not being able to stay on it.

maybe u should study bout chec and the embarrasing 1mph penalty he collect.

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« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2009, 09:30:29 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

Like Reina almost save CRonaldo penalty ... without the "aid" of someone to tell him where center was.

Maybe what VDS needed was someone to tell him where the goal line was, cuz he get a yellow card for not being able to stay on it.

maybe u should study bout chec and the embarrasing 1mph penalty he collect.

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at least Cech move.
What was that on goals #3 and #4 from VDS?

arthritis?
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« Reply #105 on: March 16, 2009, 10:41:42 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

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« Reply #106 on: March 16, 2009, 10:49:23 AM »
Did anyone have a close look at the Gerrard Penalty.  seems to me as he in the motion of taking it....Tevez was waving he hands to Van Der Saar to tell him what direction to dive.  But Gerrard scored anyway.....

To me it look like he was trying to help him center him self in the goal. VDS almost saved it anyway.

If my players had to help my GK center heself for a PK, then I won't call him a goalkeeper.

-The ball alone will tell you where the center of the goal is. At most soccer field the PK spot is 12 yard from the goal line in the MIDDLE of the goal
-The GK is normally positioned on the goal line and therefore just need to look to the left or to the right to know if he is central.
- Top goalkeepers are taught that they can get their bearing of where their goal is and what part of the goal they are positioned in by looking at different marking on the field
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« Reply #107 on: March 16, 2009, 11:40:27 AM »
U fans, this defeat may indeed be a good thing for United. I just shows that on a given day with two sides being equal the results you want may not come your way. I rather Liverpool beat us than say a bottom of the table team. 'Pool was the better team today. It is just a fact. They brought us back to earth today. Accept it boo fans and stop crying like babies. Let's move on to the next game.

Worst day possible... there is never a time when a loss against Liverpool is anything but devastating. Liverpool...sigh...

Anyway after Fergie chews a few men a new one, it make for a more focused run-in. What was he thinking leaving Anderson on for so long?

My sentiments exactly...ah cyar think of a worse team to lose too...sigh. >:(
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« Reply #108 on: March 16, 2009, 12:23:44 PM »
U fans, this defeat may indeed be a good thing for United. I just shows that on a given day with two sides being equal the results you want may not come your way. I rather Liverpool beat us than say a bottom of the table team. 'Pool was the better team today. It is just a fact. They brought us back to earth today. Accept it boo fans and stop crying like babies. Let's move on to the next game.

Worst day possible... there is never a time when a loss against Liverpool is anything but devastating. Liverpool...sigh...

Anyway after Fergie chews a few men a new one, it make for a more focused run-in. What was he thinking leaving Anderson on for so long?

My sentiments exactly...ah cyar think of a worse team to lose too...sigh. >:(

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« Reply #109 on: March 16, 2009, 12:39:52 PM »
U fans, this defeat may indeed be a good thing for United. I just shows that on a given day with two sides being equal the results you want may not come your way. I rather Liverpool beat us than say a bottom of the table team. 'Pool was the better team today. It is just a fact. They brought us back to earth today. Accept it boo fans and stop crying like babies. Let's move on to the next game.

Worst day possible... there is never a time when a loss against Liverpool is anything but devastating. Liverpool...sigh...

Anyway after Fergie chews a few men a new one, it make for a more focused run-in. What was he thinking leaving Anderson on for so long?

My sentiments exactly...ah cyar think of a worse team to lose too...sigh. >:(

Jus preparation for more of the same to come on April 5th and May 16th.. 8)

We shall see. I'll remind you of this posting when the time comes ;) :beermug:
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