Cops News Thread.

[weary1969]

Kamla defends Sasha
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Kamla_defends_Sasha-124752319.html

By Joel Julien joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com
June 29, 2011

PRIME MINISTER Kamla Persad-Bissessar has come out in defence of her special adviser Sasha Mohammed amid calls from various sectors for Mohammed to resign or be fired.


Persad-Bissessar said that not enough evidence has been obtained to condemn Mohammed for allegedly issuing a threatening email to Express editor-in-chief Omatie Lyder and reporter Anna Ramdass.


On January 30 a threatening e-mail was sent to Lyder and Ramdass by someone named using the name "Janice Thomas" in connection with the Reshmi Ramnarine story being investigated by the Express.


On June 17, Mohammed was issued a warning by police after a probe uncovered that the e-mail originated from the computer at her home. Mohammed has denied the allegations.


"From what I have read Miss Mohammed has denied the accusations. I do not have evidence which says that allegation is true and therefore it is a difficult situation to condemn someone, who we do not have evidence that they have done wrong," Persad-Bissessar said.


"There has been a lot of noise on the issue and well so. I have no doubt that it is a very sensitive matter but at the same time we cannot act everytime someone makes an allegation because then I would end up with no one around me," she said.


Persad-Bissessar made the statement on Tuesday night during a reception held at the Trinidad Hilton, St Ann's, for the Caribbean Regional Colloquium on Women which started yesterday. This is her first full statement on the issue.


Persad-Bissessar also defended Works Minister Jack Warner using the same logic.


Warner was named as an accessory in relation to bribery allegations by world football governing body, FIFA, but has since resigned from the organisation. The allegations stem from a meeting held in May at the Hyatt Regency, in Port of Spain where former FIFA presidential candidate Qatari Mohamed bin Hammam presented gifts amounting to US$1 million to Caribbean football chiefs.


"People are asking what is the difference with Mary King and Sasha Mohammed and Jack Warner. The difference is with Mary King that information was within our reach, we could find it, it was in our jurisdiction and we got statements and got the evidence but with respect to Warner and Mohammed it is not in reach of our knowledge," Persad-Bissessar said.


On May 10 , King was fired as Planning Minister following a Sunday Express exclusive investigation detailing her involvement in the awarding of a $100,000 contract to a company, Ixanos, in which her family has an interest. The contract was to build and service a website for the Ministry.


"Every time an allegation arises then I would have to take out someone. Then it would be easy for anyone to stand up and make an allegation against anyone and know that once the allegation is made they must resign. I have no intention of having my government destroyed," she said.


Persad-Bissessar said Mohammed's employment contract is currently under review as a precautionary measure by the Permanent Secretary in the Office of the Prime Minister.


"The contract is being reviewed because of the perception that has been created. The contract is being reviewed so we can decide what direction we can and cannot go in," she said.

I go believe dis when she apply dis same logic to Manning and Calder Hart.

THEN U EH GO BLIEVE IT.

[Bakes]

She questioning de evidence she own police come up with?  Lol... Kamla yuh right yes, tell dem Sasha eh going nowhere until ah court convict she, lol.

[weary1969]

SASHA GETS OFF
Police: DPP advised us not to charge PM's adviser
By Akile Simon

SASHA MOHAMMED, adviser to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, will not be charged with harassing Express editor-in-chief Omatie Lyder and reporter Anna Ramdass.

Director of Public Prosecutions, Roger Gaspard, last week advised the police not to lay any charges against Mohammed since there was insufficient evidence to successfully secure a conviction, police sources said yesterday.

Police were seeking to charge Mohammed under the Amendment of the Offences against the Persons Act Chapter 11:08 Act No. 11 of 2005 which deals with harassment.

According to police sources, had Mohammed sent the e-mail on more than one occasion to Lyder and Ramdass, she would have been charged with the offence.

The matter is therefore now closed, police sources said.

Section 30A (b) of the Act says "a course of conduct" involves conduct of the kind referred to in paragraph (a) carried out on at least two occasions.

Pressure has been mounting on Persad-Bissessar from various quarters, including factions of the coalition government and the Opposition People's National Movement, to fire Mohammed.

On January 30, a threatening e-mail was sent to Lyder and Ramdass by someone named using the name "Janice Thomas" in connection with the Reshmi Ramnarine story being investigated by the Express.

The e-mail, which targeted Lyder and Ramdass, was addressed to editors and reporters of the Express and staff of CCN-TV6 as well as other media houses, accused Lyder and Ramdass of a personal vendetta against Ramnarine.

The e-mail stated that "their day in the sun is over" and "this is the beginning...They will understand the consequences of their actions..."

The Express first broke the story of the questionable appointment of Ramnarine to the post of director of the Strategic Services Agency (SSA) and had at the time been investigating how she came to be hired as director of the SSA without the necessary qualifications.

Mohammed was warned by police on June 17, after a probe uncovered that the e-mail originated from the computer at her San Juan home. Mohammed, through her attorneys, denied issuing the emails.

Police sources said that Gaspard, after reviewing the file, noted that under 30A section (b) of the Offences Against the Persons Act (Amendment) 2005, the email which went set to them (Lyder and Ramdass) would have had to be sent on more than one occasion.

Earlier this month, Persad and Cpl Rennie Grant concluded their six-month long investigations into the threatening e-mail Mohammed allegedly sent to Lyder and Ramdass.

Then, police had intended, depending on the outcome of advice from the DPP, to prosecute Mohammed in relation to the offence after their investigations revealed that the emails were generated and issued from her home and an IP address assigned to her by internet provider Flow.

Contacted yesterday on the matter , Deputy Commissioner of Police in charge of Anti-Crime Operations, Mervyn Richardson, confirmed the police had sought advice from Gaspard and they have adopted a certain course of action.

Even though there was an outcry by members of the public who criticised the police saying they should have laid charges against Mohammed, Richardson said he was very impressed with the manner in which Persad and Grant, who were led by Snr Supt Glen Hackett, conducted the investigations into the reports.

"They did extremely well and remained professional at all times as they pursued their investigations. I think it was done in an objective and dispassionate manner and to bring it to the best conclusion based on the advice we have received from the DPP," Richardson said.

Richardson said he was unable to state whether the office of Commissioner of Police, Dwayne Gibbs, had responded to a letter sent to him by Mohammed's attorneys last week requesting information regarding the police probe on their client.

Mohammed, a former journalist, joined the People's Partnership Government as engagements adviser to Persad-Bissessar, six months after the May 24 general elections last year.

On Tuesday, Persad-Bissessar stated that not enough evidence had been obtained to condemn Mohammed .

"From what I have read Miss Mohammed has denied the accusations. I do not have evidence which says that allegation is true and therefore it is a difficult situation to condemn someone, (for whom) you do not have evidence that they have done wrong," Persad-Bissessar said.

She added that Mohammed's employment contract is currently under review as a precautionary measure by the Permanent Secretary in the Office of the Prime Minister.

[Peong]

So it's not that there's not enough evidence, but rather that one threatening email is not harassment.
Still it obviously calls her character into question. 

[g]

So it's not that there's not enough evidence, but rather that one threatening email is not harassment.
Still it obviously calls her character into question. 

yea it have to be at least twice for it to be a chargeable offense. while one may not be enough for a charge, it should definitely should be enough to be removed as a PM advisor.

[Brownsugar]

So it's not that there's not enough evidence, but rather that one threatening email is not harassment.
Still it obviously calls her character into question. 

yea it have to be at least twice for it to be a chargeable offense. while one may not be enough for a charge, it should definitely should be enough to be removed as a PM advisor.

Duh!!!  but doh tell Kamla dat....she kinda hoping we forget by next week and "move on".....

[weary1969]

Sasha quits adviser job
Legal action launched against media house

 
Sasha Mohammed Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s adviser on public engagements, Sasha Mohammed, yesterday tendered her resignation from the post “with immediate effect.” Sources close to the Office of the Prime Minister said the letter was addressed to the Prime Minister and copied to her permanent secretary, Reynold Copper. Mohammed decided to resign because she has launched legal action against a media house “as a result of its false, malicious and spurious” allegations against her, the sources said, referring to her letter.

Mohammed sent a pre-action protocol letter to the media house on July 13, claiming she had been the target of a “bitter and unjustified attack.” In January, two journalists at the media house received an e-mail, which they said they felt threatened by, at the height of the Reshmi Usha Ramnarine affair. That controversy involved the Prime Minister’s appointment of Ramnarine, a telecommunications technician, to fill the top post at the Strategic Services Agency, which some describe as the local CIA.

In her resignation letter, sources said, Mohammed proclaimed her innocence of all the allegations that have been levelled against her but she pointed out that in exercising her legal options against the media house, she wanted to do so “without constraint” and save the Office of the Prime Minister from being the target of a “malicious personal agenda.” Contacted late last night, Mohammed confirmed she had submitted her resignation but declined any comment on the communication.

[weary1969]

Sasha resigns as adviser to Prime Minister

Sasha Mohammed, public engagements adviser to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, has resigned.

This was confirmed by Minister of Foreign Affairs and Communications, Dr Suruj Rambachan, when questioned at yesterday's post-Cabinet press conference at the Office of the Prime Minister, St Clair.

"That question is best directed to the office of the Prime Minister but as you read the report that Sasha Mohammed has resigned, we must respect her decision and take the opportunity to wish her well in whatever career pursuit she now endeavours to," said Rambachan.

Police had initiated an investigation after Express Editor-in-Chief Omatie Lyder and reporter Anna Ramdass reported they were threatened in an e-mail on January 30, sent to them by someone adopting the alias "Janice Thomas", in connection with Reshmi Ramnarine's appointment to head the SSA being investigated by the Express.

A report was made on January 31 at the Port of Spain Criminal Investigation Department (CID).

Last month, police investigations found that the threatening e-mails sent to Lyder and Ramdass came from Mohammed's personal computer at her San Juan home.

Through her attorneys, Mohammed denied sending the e-mail and initiated legal action against the Express.

The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) advised police not to charge Mohammed because of insufficient evidence to secure a conviction as she had only sent the e-mail once to Lyder and Ramdass.

[congo]

NO CONTROL OVER COPS
AG responds to Anti-Corruption Bureau raid on newspaper:

By by Renuka Singh
Story Created: Feb 11, 2012 at 11:50 PM ECT
Story Updated: Feb 11, 2012 at 11:50 PM ECT
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday distanced himself from the Anti-Corruption Investigation Bureau (ACIB) after its officers executed a search warrant at the Newsday newspaper's offices in Port of Spain and the home of journalist Andre Bagoo on Thursday.
Ramlogan said yesterday he viewed any continued connection between his office and the ACIB as an "embarrassment" and intended to speak with Commissioner of Police Dwayne Gibbs to once again assume full control of the unit.
Ramlogan said he had not direct control or influence on the ACIB.
The control of the ACIB was moved under the AG's jurisdiction under the tenure of United National Congress Attorney General Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj and was always a contentious move, Ramlogan said.
In a statement Ramlogan described the search and seizure by the ACIB officers as "unexplained" and "dramatic".
Ramlogan said while the ACIB was listed, on paper, under his portfolio, he has "no jurisdiction whatsoever over this entity".
"The office of the AG functions as the administrative conduit for a number of independent bodies including the Office of the DPP, the ACIB and the Judiciary," he said.
Ramlogan denied any knowledge of an investigation initiated by the ACIB into the complaint by chairman of the Integrity Commission Kenneth Gordon.
Ramlogan said he only became aware of the issue after it was reported in the newspapers.
He said he had "no knowledge about the execution of these search warrants and the action of the ACIB" and considered the matter to be of "grave concern".
In these circumstances, Ramlogan said he intended to raise the future of the ACIB with Gibbs in the context of the on-going reform of the Police Service.
Ramlogan said on previous occasions he has expressed his disappointment with the slow pace of the investigations undertaken by the ACIB.
"The ACIB has failed to make any or any meaningful progress on a number of high-profile corruption investigations under the previous administration including the Reverend Juliana Pena Church in Guanapo Heights, Calder Hart, T&TEC street lighting programme, the Landate matter in Tobago, HDC (Housing Development Corporation) and the URP (Unemployment Relief Programme)," Ramlogan noted.
He said ACIB head Superintendent Solomon Koon Koon already confirmed that the ACIB was a unit of the Police Service and as such came under the remit of the Police Commissioner and not the AG.
"The placement of this unit under the office of the AG by former AG Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj was always a matter of some contention," he said.
Ramlogan also condemned the "sudden unusual burst of energy and enthusiasm from the ACIB on a fresh complaint to be quite odd in light of the number of outstanding complaints that appear to be receiving little or no attention over the last few years".
"It is in dire need of strong leadership and re-structuring," Ramlogan said, adding that diplomatic pleas to the police hierarchy had "fallen on deaf ears".
On Thursday, ACIB officers searched the offices of Newsday on Chacon Street, Port of Spain, and questioned Bagoo.
The officers seized files from his work and home computers.
They were searching for information related to an article written by Bagoo last December concerning a legal feud between the Integrity Commission's chairman Gordon and suspended deputy chairman Gladys Gafoor.
A contingent of police officers previously searched the offices of CCN TV6 at Independence Square in Port of Spain last December for video footage aired on TV6's Crime Watch programme.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/NO_CONTROL__OVER_COPS-139168474.html

[congo]

Is this the same person who when Panday or any person of East Indian descent was being investigated by the same ACIB was screaming political and racial discrimination?

Now he is claiming that the unit doesn't suffer from political influence. Can these people not stoop any lower?

You have a better chance of picking a razor blade off the floor than their integrity.

[zuluwarrior]

Seetahal on violence against children: Cops careless in their charging


Published:


Tuesday, March 12, 2013
 



The police are careless when laying charges against offenders who are cruel to children, says attorney Dana Seetahal SC. In recent cases where parents and caregivers have been charged with burning the hands of children, Seetahal said they were charged under the Children’s Act rather than the Offences against the Person Act, which carried a stiffer penalty.
 
 
 
 
 
Seetahal, who called for part of the Children’s Act to be revised, was speaking at a three-day conference on violence against children at the Hyatt Regency, Port-of-Spain, yesterday.
 Yesterday’s session focused on physical and sexual abuse. Seetahal said the Act dealt with special offences against children, special procedures for hearing matters where children were victim/offenders and special punishment for children and young people.
 
 
 
In some cases, she said, the Offences against the Person Act provided more serious penalties. Seetahal added:“The authorities therefore may choose to charge under the general law. With regard to burning of a child, under the Act there is a specific penalty for that... of about $400 and if the person is charged not under the Children’s Act, but under the Offences against the Person Act the penalty could be 15 years if it is a charge for causing grievous bodily harm or if it is inflicting grievous bodily harm, which would be five years.”
 
 
 
Saying there were many options available to the police rather than the Children’s Act, Seetahal urged the act should be revisited to institute stricter penalties. She said: “Why create these specific offences if the penalty is so minor? Either it is unnecessary or you review the laws to make specific provision if you intend to protect children... make it mean something to protect children under the Children’s Act.”
 
 
 
Asked what would prompt an officer to charge under the Children’s Act rather than the Offences against the Person Act where the penalty was much higher Seetahal said it could be for a number of reasons. She said:“Maybe they (police) just see that and they see where there is an offence and they say let’s go under the Children’s Act. That’s probably what they did because I can’t imagine otherwise. There is other legislation which is more serious.
 
 
 
“Why would you go for that small penalty?” Seetahal asked. She said she was also informed in some cases where a child was burnt by the parent the officer laid the charges on his own rather than approaching the Director of Public Prosecutions for advice on laying the charge. On orphaned children, Seetahal said the State needed to focus more on them.
 “There are three orphanages who are there forever and all they do now is assist little homes...this government and the last government and the government before that haven’t put in finances in orphanages.
 
 
 
In response to the claim that police were “careless,” Margaret Sampson-Browne, former assistant commissioner of police and manager of the police Victim and Witness Support Unit, said the “ingredients of the law in the Children’s Act would also link to the offence being committed.” She said: “If a mother burns a child... if you go into the Children’s Act you will see that offence there with the penalty. But what we have to do is perhaps to move away from that and go for the stiffer penalty.”
 
 
 
Sampson-Browne added that police had the discretion to lay charges as they believed fit and did not have to go to the DPP in every instance.
 
 
 
MORE INFO
 
Section Six of the Children’s Act Burning of a child negligently. If any person over the age of 16 who has the custody, charge or care of any child under the age of seven and allows that child to be in any room or yard containing a coalpot, stove or other fire not sufficiently protected to guard against risk of that child being burnt or scalded, without taking reasonable precaution against that risk and by reason thereof the child is killed or suffers serious injury he is liable on summary conviction to a fine of $400.
 

[zuluwarrior]

Man rapes girl, 7
By JANELLE DE SOUZA Tuesday, March 12 2013

A PAEDOPHILE has escaped prosecution for the past three years after the mother of a seven- year-old child, whom he is alleged to have sexually assaulted, took the child and left without a trace.

Despite a mountain of evidence including numerous videotapes showing the man having sexual intercourse with the seven-year-old, the man — who was the boyfriend of the child’s mother at the time — walked free because no one came forward (neither the child nor her mother) to make an official report.

Yesterday, at a Violence Against Children conference at the Hyatt Regency in Port-of-Spain, retired Assistant Commissioner of Police Margaret Sampson-Browne, who is now the manager of the Police Service’s Victims and Witness Support Unit (VWSU), showed an edited video clip of the man video-taping himself having sex with the seven-year-old girl.

Sampson-Browne said when police held the man three years ago, they found stacks of videos showing him having sexual intercourse with the child. Sampson-Browne said the child’s mother seemed to be aware of his actions as she was seen in one of the videos. The police were unable to lay any criminal charge since the woman moved away with the child and police do not know at present, the whereabouts of the woman and her daughter, now ten. Sampson-Browne said she aired the video in order to demonstrate how difficult it is to prosecute such criminals, as well as to show that sexual abuse against children is more than just inappropriate touching and in reality, includes actual sexual intercourse.

Revealing the Police’s statistics for rape, incest and sexual offences, Sampson-Browne noted there were 30 such cases reported this January alone and 512 cases in total for 2011. She did not provide data for 2012, but noted that from January to July of that year, there were 86 sexual offence cases and 75 cases of domestic violence and child abuse.

Sampson-Browne encouraged persons, even if they did not want to report a crime, to do so because the real statistics would help the Commissioner of Police implement effective policies.

She also promised that the Unit would provide support once a report is made. “There are people who are affected by crime and don’t want to go to the Police. We are saying, come to us,” said Sampson-Browne. “We are bridging the gap between the police and the community.”

The Unit, she said, is proposing a Child Abuse Task Force and intends to have a Barber Training Programme, as well as a One-day Conference focused on Men in the Community.

[zuluwarrior]

Rape, incest rampant in Central Trinidad




Story Created: Mar 11, 2013 at 9:56 PM ECT
(
Story Updated: Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM ECT )


There have been more than 200 reported cases of incest, rape and sexual abuse for the year to date in Central Trinidad.
 
Last year, Central Trinidad also recorded the highest number of reported cases of rape, incest and sexual abuse in Trinidad and Tobago.
 
The statistics were revealed yesterday by Margaret Sampson-Browne, director of the Police Service Victim and Witness Support Unit, at the "Violence Against Children" conference at Hyatt Regency in Port of Spain.
 
"We have had almost 800 clients coming to us from central...including Chaguanas, Couva, and those outlining areas in central.
 
"It is now quite evident that child abuse is becoming rampant in our country," she added, noting that the children of the nation are under attack by sexual predators, who must be jailed.
 
"The reality is the adult men use their penis on little children— anal sex, oral sex and vaginal sex and it's happening," said Sampson-Browne, who stressed the need to "design a social network, a crisis management information service, so in a crisis like this people shouldn't wonder where I have to go...people should just fall in to work with them".
 
She said the Children's Authority Act has no impact on the criminals.

Senior Counsel Dana Seetahal also agreed.

She said if you neglect a child by suffocating the child to death, under the Children's Authority Act, the criminal, if given a summary offence, is fined $5,000 or six months' imprisonment.
 
"The act talks about burning of children negligently, but you know what I think about that...the penalty for that is $400.
 
"Also if a child is injured, so much so that the child loses sight, hearing or a limb...the law states that for summary offences, the perpetrator can be fined $5,000 or six months' imprisonment. However, under the Offences against a Person Act, the perpetrator can get life imprisonment.
 
"I had to go to Toco...a father and a son sexually abused the child, the community turned against her, the grandmother turned against her...she had to go by a friend," said Seetahal.
 
Both Sampson-Browne and Seetahal are calling for the Children's Authority Act to be re-visited and for stiffer penalties to be enforced.
 
Sampson-Browne noted that they have already submitted a proposal to acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams for a children's task force. She said police officers who are a part of this force will receive special training. —TV6 News

[vb]

http://www.upworthy.com/meet-the-17-year-old-who-blew-the-lid-off-racial-profiling-with-his-ipod?c=fym1

[Sam]

Whats new, but sometimes these young ass punks does look for it.

If them giving all de trouble, off course police go harass them.

Them cause that on they self.

[just cool]

Whats new, but sometimes these young ass punks does look for it.

If them giving all de trouble, off course police go harass them.

Them cause that on they self.

NONSENSE!!!

NYPD is full of ignorant uneducated thugs!! this institution is not geared to helping or serving the public, they are a fraternity of horrible uncouth backward hicks from the boondocks who only option was to join the force bc they had nothing else going for them.

these racist thugs were bullies in high school and they when into the force bc they couldn't cut it in cooperate america.

iza big full man who does dress my age, and when i step out these fellas does be following me and profiling, but i'm the spin doctor so when they approach me i does hit them big man style and they does have no other option but tuh keep it moving.

but for these lil yutes who eh have the skills tuh handle dem rednecks , is pure rail road? and looking @ this yute, this could be my son or my nephew bc, them fellas red and look and dress the same as this kid. and as yuh know, all dem yutes does dress the same, white black and hispanic.

[just cool]

Sam i feel yuh bout the way these yutes behave nowadays, some of them are indeed scary, and yes you have a right to express your dissatisfaction, but the police is the first line of civilian defense, and they must follow an order regardless of the situations they face or the way the ppl bahave, and the rights of the ppl must be preserved, this is what democracy is all about.

but unfortunately this behavior by the NYPD officers have no place in the protocol of proper policing in a democratic state that champions the rights of the ppl, regardless to the dangers or the unsavory individuals they may encounter on the job.

police officers have to follow a protocol, it's the law! and regardless of the varmints they may encounter, they must honor their moto of courtesy, professionalism and respect, and where in their confrontation with this young man were they any of the above?

i heard profanity, verbal abuse, aggression, physical abuse, and disrespect all coming from the officers while the kid was just the opposite, asking and wanting to know why was he being targeted.

these cops were clearly taking advantage, and would continue to be hated by man and beast bc of this unbridled police culture of disrespect and fear.

do you know that this country is slowly becoming a police state? and by the look of this confrontation, someone who didn't know any better would think that this was some where in the eastern block, or in war torn africa.

this IMO is definitely uncharacteristic of a free and democratic state, TBH, it looks more like totalitarianism to me.

[kounty]

thanks for the post. I enjoyed the flick. I was just talking to my 10 year old son this morning about how the push for efficiency / competition (especially in the context of capitalism) sometimes leave the minority and poor in a very bad place.

[kounty]

Whats new, but sometimes these young ass punks does look for it.

If them giving all de trouble, off course police go harass them.

Them cause that on they self.

I only heard the quote this morning and had to do a double-take. The commish seem to agree with you Sam.
Blacks are understopped he says. What do I know eh? I'm just a stupid trini.

[ribbit]

jc, completely agree that alot of PDs are full of "uneducated thugs". if yuh want to gentrify de police services and want an educated sophisticated individual willing to take a bullet from a nation full of punks, how yuh propose to achieve this? policing attract more soldier than poet.

[kounty]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/plainclothes-officers-trouble-didn-recognize-off-duty-chief-article-1.327540

[OutsideMan]

Very good post, vb.  I lived in NY for over 16 years, and was subject to a lot of police harassment during that time while just walking on the street...while driving...and regardless of what I was wearing even if I was professionally attired in a business suit.  I've stood up for myself on all those occasions, even politely asking the NYPD officers if they were aware of the US Constitution and even the NY State Constitution (both of which I always carry with me)...and I would enquire of those officers if they were on exchange from North Korea or something. 

There is no constitutional basis in any state within the US for the illegal stop and frisk policy.  Among many others, the policy is just basically yet another illegal (yes 'ILLEGAL') activity perpetrated by the state against the people.

[Nashy]

If 3/4 of all the stops are Latinos and Blacks, and 90% are innocent/not charged, that has nothing to do with targeting the most likely to offend.  THINK ABOUT IT!

I read some Federal stats a while ago that showed that in NY with their stop and frisk policy, MORE White people are found with illegal guns than Blacks and Latinos yet they target more Blacks and Latinos!

Racism at its best!

[OutsideMan]

If 3/4 of all the stops are Latinos and Blacks, and 90% are innocent/not charged, that has nothing to do with targeting the most likely to offend.  THINK ABOUT IT!

I read some Federal stats a while ago that showed that in NY with their stop and frisk policy, MORE White people are found with illegal guns than Blacks and Latinos yet they target more Blacks and Latinos!

Racism at its best!

Nashy, you're quite right.  The 'funny' thing is, even if the NYPD was targeting mostly whites/caucasians for stop and frisk, it still wouldn't be right, since the policy in itself is unconstitutional.  NYC might as well convert the Statue of Liberty to scrap metal, and ship it back to France, because the ideals of liberty is no longer evident over there.

NYC hypocrisy at it's finest.

(Btw Nashy...you played great at the gold cup, man!  )       

[kounty]

Judge Rules NYPD Stop-and-Frisk Practice Violates Rights
Outside Monitor Is Ordered to Oversee Changes to the Legally Challenged Practice I want somebody to sue and bankrupt dey stupid racist arses.

[Trini _2026]

CNN) -- The family of a Florida man has released video of his death, hoping to get criminal charges filed against the police officer who ran him over.
On May 8, Marlon Brown was being chased by DeLand police because they allegedly saw that he was not wearing a seatbelt. At a dead-end road, Brown stopped his car and started running.
One of the police cars hit and ran him over, its dashcam video recording the entire incident.
Last week, a grand jury decided not to indict officer James Harris on a criminal charge of vehicular manslaughter. That's when the family decided to go public, and release the video.
"We knew it wasn't going to be an easy video to watch," says Krystal Brown the ex-wife and mother of Brown's children, "but in order to obtain justice, and that's what we're looking for, we knew it was something that we had to do."


Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/marlon-browns-family-releases-video-of-his-death-want-police-who-ran-him-over-to-face-charges#ixzz2fq1k0onE



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[Trini _2026]

 Sharpton JR at it again
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[Bitter]

Why he was running from the police in the first place?

Is hard to drum up sympathy for these fellas, who do more to perpetuate negative stereotypes.
That is not to say that he deserved to die.

[Bakes]

Why he was running from the police in the first place?

Meaningless... and irrelevant.  His actions are not at issue.


Jose Baez nails it.  Negligent maybe, but I don't even know that it was reckless or even intentional.  Crump talking shit... as much respect as I have for him.

[Bitter]

Why he was running from the police in the first place?

Meaningless... and irrelevant.  His actions are not at issue.

His decision to run ultimately led to his death. It shouldn't have, but that is a different argument.
This was a bad decision. Just like Trayvon Martin made a bad decision.
What did the ledger in his cost-benefit analysis add up to for him to decide that running was the best option. I am not blaming the victim, but rather, wondering what is the thought process. I'm trying to think of a situation where running would result in a BETTER outcome than whatever charge he thought he was about to collect. How long could he run? How many actually escape?

Stop thinking like a lawyer for a moment, and think like a human (difficult, I know). What did he die for? To avoid another charge for having no license? I want to reach out and shake some sense into these young people.