The Stretford End- Home of the Champions

[Bitter]

Louis van Gaal is a football genius

[elan]

Get this in a comment section on espnfc.com

"Fergie: A despot/autocrat's power vacuum existing inside the club since he blew out having failed to put into place any of the pieces for a successful transition. To me it speaks to his massive narcissism and egomania. He was always simply using Utd as a means to achieve his own self-aggrandizement. He never loved, nor cared, about the club itself. It was simply the only place that offered him carte blanche to run EVERYTHING after a few years of success. We've seen this same power vacuum movie before in business and in politics."

[Peong]

Breaking : Di Maria hands in transfer request.

[Deeks]

Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong....

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.

[sammy]

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Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong....

 

[Tiresais]

Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong....

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.

Just be lucky you're not a Charlton fan if that's a doldrum for ya :p

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

[lefty]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question

[Tiresais]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question

Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing. 

[Peong]

No CL and getting lit up by small sides.  Di Maria must be so vex eh.  He's a defending CL champion!

A man named Reeve hit allyuh a no-look pass to set up a goal lol

[Tiresais]

Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing.

Lol you are very pessimistic :p They still have good players, but not much of a team.

[lefty]

Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things

[Bakes]

nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things

Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... £213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).

[lefty]

nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things

Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... £213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).

 

[asylumseeker]

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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

...
Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.

[Mose]

...
Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.

Nice breakdown. I was about to dismiss you as just another hater before this. I think we could probably manage without the DM but we definitely need to improve that defense. I think Rio was past it, but losing Evra AND Vidic really hurt.

[elan]

*cough*

[soccerman]

As the saying goes, "it will get worse before it gets better". Let's see how much patience we'll have with Val Gaal, since we're in a time where everyone wants to win now!

[D.H.W]

Falcao to United confirmed

Loan

[Bourbon]

I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.

[grimm01]

Big big signing for ManU. Doesn't address the other glaring needs but the strategy might simply be to score more than the defense concedes. Definite upgrade to Wellbeck and the Mexican.

[Bourbon]

With the defence how it is that is even a bigger gamble. Service to the strikers shoddy at best. Still doesn't address the midfield issue. They hesitate over Vidal for the whole transfer season because of doubt with his knees, which is a position that actually needs to be reinforced.. Yet take a striker which not as urgent who coming back from a major knee problem himself. No word yet on areas that actually need addressing. Is Kamla handling transfers or wha? Why everything looking like it just done by vaps so for PR?

[D.H.W]

This team going to take a while to gel. Is basically a new team constructed in a few months / weeks

[sammy]

even though we are not doing too well at the moment, at least we have a proven style from LVG that we are working to.

[Peong]

I really don't understand why Monaco would loan him out, and why he would agree to be loaned to a non-CL team.

[D.H.W]

We need Vidal

[futbolfan]

I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.

RVP knee has not healed from ligament injury and he is supposed to have surgery which will rule him out for a period of time. So the signing makes sense seeing that Chicarito gone to Real Madrid and Wellbeck heading to Arsenal or Spurs.
Looks like it is a bargain deal with an option to buy at the end of the season. Plus the owner of Monaco is in a bitter divorce battle and is selling players like nobody business.
So in a nutshell, this seems like a luxury signing, but Rooney is the only healthy, proven striker on the books.