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Will a Premiership side save Kenwyne when Cardiff get relegated?

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #720 on: January 25, 2014, 01:58:03 PM »
no respect for him and his 'driving to London to force a move' antics
Didn't it eventually come out that he was told to come down there? I forget by whom. But he was apparently there under the impression that it was a done deal, not trying to force a move.

Kenwyne and Campbell potentially a good link up, though. Any side could go down out of that bottom 10. Palace went from rock bottom to 16th in no time. So not a bad move. just a risky one.

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« Reply #721 on: January 25, 2014, 03:43:29 PM »
Didn't it eventually come out that he was told to come down there? I forget by whom. But he was apparently there under the impression that it was a done deal, not trying to force a move.

Yes, it would be a bizarre way to try and force a transfer.  At any rate, I rate Odemwingie.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #722 on: January 25, 2014, 05:15:24 PM »
plenty wuk ahead to stay a EPL player

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« Reply #723 on: January 25, 2014, 05:45:34 PM »
So what would happen if Jones does not agree personal terms at this point?

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #724 on: January 25, 2014, 05:51:39 PM »
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Re: Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #725 on: January 25, 2014, 06:15:23 PM »
So what would happen if Jones does not agree personal terms at this point?
very good question... Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Yorke crash a transfer out of Man U by refusing to agree terms with Middleborough?

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« Reply #726 on: January 25, 2014, 06:21:09 PM »
Think it through... the transfer fee is what's paid to secure the RIGHT to negotiate with the player.  You still have to personally negotiate a contract with the player.  So no contract signed, then obviously the transfer is off.  It might help to not think in terms of "trading" a player.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #727 on: January 25, 2014, 06:30:54 PM »
As in: how would Hughes and the rest of management react? Suck it up and include Jones in the squad for the rest of the season or get vex and ship him off to youth team training.
Last season it happened to Malouda at Chelsea, U-21 training all season long.
Maybe it would be different for Jones since it's halfway through the season.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #728 on: January 25, 2014, 06:43:42 PM »
Cardiff jed...wham to everton...o swansea....dotishness yes

You really think Jones up to that level?
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #729 on: January 25, 2014, 07:07:05 PM »
Cardiff jed...wham to everton...o swansea....dotishness yes

You really think Jones up to that level?

lol, Crouch keeping him on the bench but he going Everton to run up minutes at Lukaku expense?

Cardiff have a long road to hoe to stay in the EPL so he have plenty incentive to knock in the goals; score and they stay up - he is the hero, score and they go down - he could get a cut-price transfer when Cardiff cutting expenses.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #730 on: January 25, 2014, 07:23:15 PM »
As in: how would Hughes and the rest of management react? Suck it up and include Jones in the squad for the rest of the season or get vex and ship him off to youth team training.
Last season it happened to Malouda at Chelsea, U-21 training all season long.
Maybe it would be different for Jones since it's halfway through the season.

There's nothing to suck up, Stoke didn't try to run him is he try to force a transfer.  Reports in the British press are that Hughes had intended to play him against Chelsea in the FA Cup.  So clearly they'd carry on as they have all season.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #731 on: January 25, 2014, 07:31:43 PM »
Well once the deal goes through he will get a run of prob 10 games or so. We'll see if he can lead Cardiff into safety.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #732 on: January 25, 2014, 08:47:54 PM »
As in: how would Hughes and the rest of management react? Suck it up and include Jones in the squad for the rest of the season or get vex and ship him off to youth team training.
Last season it happened to Malouda at Chelsea, U-21 training all season long.
Maybe it would be different for Jones since it's halfway through the season.

There's nothing to suck up, Stoke didn't try to run him is he try to force a transfer. Reports in the British press are that Hughes had intended to play him against Chelsea in the FA Cup.  So clearly they'd carry on as they have all season.


The quote I saw was that he was available for selection, the reporter's headline about him returning vs Chelsea was pure speculation based on the quote.  British press does report real shit when they ready.

Solskjaer might be able to teach KJ a couple things about positioning. 
Whatever happens I hope it works out for KJ.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #733 on: January 25, 2014, 10:09:57 PM »
As in: how would Hughes and the rest of management react? Suck it up and include Jones in the squad for the rest of the season or get vex and ship him off to youth team training.
Last season it happened to Malouda at Chelsea, U-21 training all season long.
Maybe it would be different for Jones since it's halfway through the season.

There's nothing to suck up, Stoke didn't try to run him is he try to force a transfer.  Reports in the British press are that Hughes had intended to play him against Chelsea in the FA Cup.  So clearly they'd carry on as they have all season.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #734 on: January 26, 2014, 02:22:22 AM »
Never trust a word in the Daily Mail, the rest are nearly as bad. Guardian and Independent are probably the 'most' worth your trust for footy news, but the whole bunch are pretty bad. Football365.com is where I go for news and analysis personally.

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Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #735 on: January 26, 2014, 02:42:16 AM »
Wheys, I dreamt that I was KJ strike partner for Cardiff on his debut. D man score in d first half even though the keeper could have saved the shot and the game finish 1 nil. I missed a sitter and was subbed mid second half
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #736 on: January 26, 2014, 04:48:08 AM »
Here's to a fresh start kj. Leave the nonsense at Stoke on Trent and enjoy the sights and sounds of Cardiff.  :beermug:

Never been to Cardiff, have you  ;D

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #737 on: January 26, 2014, 06:08:32 AM »
Wheys, I dreamt that I was KJ strike partner for Cardiff on his debut. D man score in d first half even though the keeper could have saved the shot and the game finish 1 nil. I missed a sitter and was subbed mid second half

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #738 on: January 26, 2014, 06:45:24 AM »
It would be kinda sad if KJ moves to the last placed team in the prem and sits on the bench behind Frazier Campbell  :banginghead:

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #739 on: January 26, 2014, 08:30:03 AM »
It would be kinda sad if KJ moves to the last placed team in the prem and sits on the bench behind Frazier Campbell  :banginghead:

Yeah, but at least we won't have to watch Stoke any more. Plus he will break the red stripe jersey thing he have going on.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #740 on: January 26, 2014, 08:38:14 AM »
It would be kinda sad if KJ moves to the last placed team in the prem and sits on the bench behind Frazier Campbell  :banginghead:
Bench is ok. The problem at Stoke is that he was glued to it, watching the people ahead of him fail. Cardiff didn't bring him in to sit down, so more than likely he'll be part of a fair rotation.
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« Reply #741 on: January 26, 2014, 09:32:45 AM »
Here's to a fresh start kj. Leave the nonsense at Stoke on Trent and enjoy the sights and sounds of Cardiff.  :beermug:

Never been to Cardiff, have you  ;D

Lol...Actually, I have. Its not Bath by anymeans but it can hold its own.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #742 on: January 26, 2014, 11:58:26 AM »
Here's to a fresh start kj. Leave the nonsense at Stoke on Trent and enjoy the sights and sounds of Cardiff.  :beermug:

Never been to Cardiff, have you  ;D

Lol...Actually, I have. Its not Bath by anymeans but it can hold its own.

I was only joking tbf as you noticed. OGS 4th signing the rest have been from where he came from.  Another nutter of a foreign owner.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #743 on: January 26, 2014, 12:46:56 PM »
Cardiff jed...wham to everton...o swansea....dotishness yes

You really think Jones up to that level?

lol, Crouch keeping him on the bench but he going Everton to run up minutes at Lukaku expense?

Cardiff have a long road to hoe to stay in the EPL so he have plenty incentive to knock in the goals; score and they stay up - he is the hero, score and they go down - he could get a cut-price transfer when Cardiff cutting expenses.

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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #744 on: January 26, 2014, 06:50:43 PM »
Wheys, I dreamt that I was KJ strike partner for Cardiff on his debut. D man score in d first half even though the keeper could have saved the shot and the game finish 1 nil. I missed a sitter and was subbed mid second half
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« Reply #745 on: January 27, 2014, 12:11:09 PM »
Anybody familiar with the system Cardiff is playing under OGS? Any opinions on how Kenwyne would/could fit into their style/system of play? I ask because I'm afraid that if they intend to use him primarily as a hold up the ball, win headers type of center forward it's likely to be more of the same.
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Re: Kenwyne Jones Thread
« Reply #746 on: January 27, 2014, 12:23:31 PM »
Look like Cardiff also getting Fabio from Man U.

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Tell us the truth then Kenwyne Jones?
« Reply #747 on: January 27, 2014, 01:00:58 PM »
Tell us the truth then Kenwyne Jones?
By Martin Spinks (The Sentinel)


NOW that he's swapping Stoke City for Cardiff City, perhaps Kenwyne Jones will be good enough to give his version of events.

He has hinted at the fact he was hard done by over his failure to play against Liverpool just over a fortnight ago by recently tweeting that he didn't go on strike.

That appears to fly in the face of the club's account - admittedly given off the record, but endorsed publicly by Mark Hughes - that Jones made himself unavailable for the game because of grievances over his future.

Clubs are not averse to spinning stories dramatically in their favour whenever a player is about to leave in any kind of controversial circumstance.

And the Secret Footballer - the mysterious Guardian columnist - went as far as to say that he had been reliably informed that Stoke's version was poppycock.

Well, if there was a yarn being spun by the club to undermine Jones, it was an over-elaborate one.

Surely to goodness the lie would not have gone into as much detail as to say that Jones had texted Hughes the night before the game?

Or that Hughes had texted him back to insist he report for duty against Liverpool?

It is not enough for Jones to hint at a lie being told, let's have his story in full and on the record.

If there was a text, but it was misinterpreted at the time, then let's have the nuts and bolts.

Then everyone can judge for themselves and the club can answer back if an answer is required.

The problem for Jones at this end, perhaps, is that supporters could be reluctant to believe anything he says because of the reputation he leaves behind.

And that is of a player who could have/should have given so much more from his locker during his three-and-a-half years at the Britannia.

His unfulfilled potential was not all his own fault, of course, but plenty at this end will say a generous percentage was down to the player himself.
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« Reply #748 on: January 27, 2014, 01:19:46 PM »
Tell us the truth then Kenwyne Jones?
By Martin_Spinks (The Sentinel)


NOW that he's swapping Stoke City for Cardiff City, perhaps Kenwyne Jones will be good enough to give his version of events.

He has hinted at the fact he was hard done by over his failure to play against Liverpool just over a fortnight ago by recently tweeting that he didn't go on strike.

That appears to fly in the face of the club's account - admittedly given off the record, but endorsed publicly by Mark Hughes - that Jones made himself unavailable for the game because of grievances over his future.

Clubs are not averse to spinning stories dramatically in their favour whenever a player is about to leave in any kind of controversial circumstance.

And the Secret Footballer - the mysterious Guardian columnist - went as far as to say that he had been reliably informed that Stoke's version was poppycock.

Well, if there was a yarn being spun by the club to undermine Jones, it was an over-elaborate one.

Surely to goodness the lie would not have gone into as much detail as to say that Jones had texted Hughes the night before the game?

Or that Hughes had texted him back to insist he report for duty against Liverpool?

It is not enough for Jones to hint at a lie being told, let's have his story in full and on the record.

If there was a text, but it was misinterpreted at the time, then let's have the nuts and bolts.

Then everyone can judge for themselves and the club can answer back if an answer is required.

The problem for Jones at this end, perhaps, is that supporters could be reluctant to believe anything he says because of the reputation he leaves behind.

And that is of a player who could have/should have given so much more from his locker during his three-and-a-half years at the Britannia.

His unfulfilled potential was not all his own fault, of course, but plenty at this end will say a generous percentage was down to the player himself.

More  :bs: from the English media.

Why not put the same questions to Hughes or Stoke?  :bs: Over the 3 years it was KJ fault that he did not do more? What walk on the field? They played Crouch injured over KJ? How the hell it is his fault that he did not play more? You can only do so much. Look at Malouda with Chelsea.


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Kenwyne Jones is just the kind of player Cardiff City need to stay up
« Reply #749 on: January 27, 2014, 01:30:15 PM »
Kenwyne Jones is just the kind of player Cardiff City need to stay up
By Nathan Blake (Wales Online)


As a fully paid up member of the strikers’ union I have to say Kenwyne Jones is an excellent signing for Cardiff City.

I actually think I said it earlier in the season that he was exactly the kind of player that Cardiff needed and I believe his goals could well prove the difference between the Bluebirds staying up and going down.

He is the kind of player we have been crying out for this season, a target man, capable of holding the ball up and he gives us a extra string to our bow.

I think when he is playing a lot more the game is going to be played in the oppositions’ final third rather than our final third.

He’s great at holding the ball up and providing little flick-ons.

The likes of Jordon Mutch and Craig Noone are really going to prosper with Jones in the side.

We can mix things up a bit now.

If we want to play it through midfield we can, but if we want to go long, with someone like Jones in the side, you can do that knowing he’s going to do his best to get on the end of it and do something with the ball.

I like the look of the guy. I don’t know Jones personally, but on the pitch he strikes me as a man’s man, the type of guy not afraid of very much.

It’s a good thing. He needs a fresh start and the Bluebirds need someone to put the ball in the net. It could be a match made in heaven. I most certainly hope so.

The arrival of Jones though should in no way detract from the excellent job Fraizer Campbell has been doing for the Bluebirds.

His signing for £650,000 has to be one of the best pieces of business former manager Malky Mackay did whilst he was in charge.

I dread to think what shape Cardiff would be in right now without Campbell, the guy has been immense.

For his work-rate I’d give Campbell nine out of ten and when it comes to finishing I’d give him a seven. He’s about at a 60 to 70 per cent conversion rate right now and that is pretty good going by anybody’s standards.

If Campbell can keep scoring and Jones could chip in with ten goals between now and the end of the season that would go a long way to ensuring City stay up.
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